PC A New German Route? The Niddertalbahn

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  1. Purno

    Purno Well-Known Member

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    Could Aerosoft perhaps be the other 3rd party? They've created several German routes for TSC and I believe they also have experience developing UE-based games.
     
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  2. erg73

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    I hope not. I made the mistake of buying On the road for PlayStation and it's absolute rubbish. They also don't make updates to make it better.
     
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  3. Purno

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    Not sure why you'd want to buy a cheap ETS2-ripoff, but Aerosoft was the publisher, not the developer.
     
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  4. Maik Goltz

    Maik Goltz Well-Known Member

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    Btw. a good portion of the work and assets/trains of the two routes Moselstrecke and Basel-Freiburg were supplied by me :) Means track-work, signalling, OHLE work, trains (made by vR where i did them). Just to get the perspective corrected :D
     
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  5. ffabio89

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    And they was absolutely lovely!
    A work well done for sure.
     
  6. Purno

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    Including the BR628 I enjoyed so much? :)
     
  7. erg73

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    As I wrote in my message, I bought it for PlayStation. I don't use the PC for gaming, only for work.
    As far as I know, ETS doesn't have a console version, so I had to settle for this crap.
    I hadn't noticed that Aerosoft was only the publisher, thanks for letting me know.
     
  8. matinakbary

    matinakbary Well-Known Member

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    Didn't think about it in that way. Maybe the route itself isn't built by him, but he might be part of it. I'm very excited about it! Though his 420 would also be very welcome sometime this year :)
     
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  9. erg73

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    So far he hasn't denied it and he has already written in this thread today, so he is reading it.

    I'll take it as "Silence gives consent". I may be disappointed later, but it was nice while it lasted! :D
     
  10. Snek

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    I wouldn't expect a (new) 3rd party's first route to include more stock than even DTG ever makes. It will most likely have 1 new loco/DMU + whatever wagons are necessary, if there are any.
     
  11. matinakbary

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    Not a good life wisdom tho :D
     
  12. WonterRail

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  13. tallboy7648

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    It'll probable be out in 3 to 4 years judging by how long it has taken to release the 232 and the 420 for instance. Slow and steady wins the race though
     
  14. Sparmi

    Sparmi Well-Known Member

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    ...if TSG makes their first own TSW route, we expect absolute perfection. After all Maik has to defend his reputation!

    But because it's the first one, a few small bugs are perfectly human and justifiable. ;)
     
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  15. Choo choo

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    TSG's content have always be top quality. Day 1 purchase with my eyes closed for my sake, as with any other TSG dlc.
     
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  16. Swisstrains

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    So it’s set before 2010? That means that we will get either the VT628 (nice) and/or the BR218; and the last one is more likely imo because Mike wanted to do this one as he said a long time ago- that means we will get Dostos :D
     
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  17. Maik Goltz

    Maik Goltz Well-Known Member

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    Funny, but no. You will be surprised in a not so far future.
     
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  18. captaingunadeep

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    Soo happy to hear that. i hope it's on or before Summer 2023
     
  19. Disintegration7

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    Very exciting news. TSG content has always been fantastic.
     
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  20. OldVern

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    Should be good... More than likely Day 1 purchase; only question - is this the Niddertalbahn or another route?
     
  21. WonterRail

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    The code for TSG's route (DGG-R6 01) hints at a Diesel Hydraulic route set around 1991-2010, and Niddertalbahn just so happens to be a diesel-only route (and what would be TSW's first true German Diesel route at that). So I would say that it is.
     
  22. captaingunadeep

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    But people from discord say it's not a TSG route as they confirmed with one of the developers
     
  23. erg73

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    Well, well, well, so I guessed right? :D
    I hope I have the same intuition to choose the lottery number!
     
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  24. Rudolf

    Rudolf Well-Known Member

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    I will buy the first route you build on day one. It is very good to have third party developers doing this.
     
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  25. Rudolf

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    This make sit very clear it is time to release a route using your own name. You deserve the credits for it!
     
  26. maxipolo12

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    RSSLO > TSG :cool:
     
  27. Swisstrains

    Swisstrains Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the route is from another developer and Maik did the trains, catenary, etc. as on the TS classic Basel-Freiburg (which would be a banger in TSW tbh)
     
  28. Evolinox#6389

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    Until TSW3 released and the backlight broke... :/

    When driving the G6 without freightwaggons, you notice that the backlights aren't properly working. I submitted a Ticket weeks ago and didn't get any response :(

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  29. xxMVG_Fan8xx

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    Oo I'm excited! I place my bets that this is gonna be a nice route!
     
  30. OpenMinded

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    I had the same thought. 218 has done the majority of the work at that time. Boy, that would be a dream come true <insert missing heart emoji here>.
     
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  31. Xaineth

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    I mean 218 is on TSG's planned to do list, supposed to be after Ludmilla (232). Maybe Maik and his team have been quiet about it because they're workin' on it in the background and surprise us.

    Tho' these locos do require a lot of work.
     
  32. Swisstrains

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    tbh i missed this emoji too when I made my post with the Dostos hahaha
     
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  33. Lamplight

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    If a TSG Br 218 is really finally on the horizon... I won't get too hyped in case it's not actually coming, but that's a game changer :love:
     
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  34. Sparmi

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    I don't want to spoil or hype anything, but if you decode the code: 3.DGG-R6 01, we end up with diesel hydraulics until 2010. This roadmap provides the crucial information. The fact that it is now being announced also signals that a certain amount of progress has already been made and the final concept is in place. So a small collection of pictures could help with what might be expected. Either way that would be awesome! I think that many also prefer suitable n-wagons than 4th gen Dostos again. ;)

    Niddertalbahn 2009.jpg
     
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  35. JesseBlue

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    And as long as it releases during the life span of TSW3 still. :)
    Small joke, no malice intended.
     
  36. Maik Goltz

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    Bad joke anyways. I clearly know that i'm quite slow. But i do not have an army of people for production and i also do work for DTG quite often. I would need to clone me, twice, to get the things done as planned. Producing for TSW is so much harder than for TS1 :|
     
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  37. redrev1917

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    Regardless of when this comes out, it's a day 1 purchase for me. A diesel German route is new terrain within TSW so worthy of day 1 purchase, but a German diesel route from the guy who made the G6 and played not a small part in the 101 (2 of the best TSW locos IMO), for me it's practically criminal not to have this in my collection.
     
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  38. Hiro Protagonist

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    Diesel loco maybe, but Tharandterrampe's primary rolling stock (DBAG 612) was diesel (just on a fully electrified line)
     
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    True but I never fell in love with the 612, I don't know why, so I predominantly just run the electrics and completely ignore it other than eye candy.
     
  40. bakedpotatos.jm

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    How hard was it to keep this a secret for so long? Can't wait to see the route you are cooking up.
     
  41. driverwoods#1787

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    Do they terminate at Bad Vilbel from Stockenheim or not? If not then continue to Frankfurt am Main Hbf as an express S5/S6 S-Bahn Rhein Main from Bad Vilbel
     
  42. solicitr

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    218! 218! 218!
     
  43. Maik Goltz

    Maik Goltz Well-Known Member

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    Definitely no 218. The loco is still on plan but only in an early 3d art stage yet. As someone got the correct idea the order is: Route, 420, 232, then maybe 218 or something else.
     
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    :(
     
  45. xxMVG_Fan8xx

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    Well, that makes me question which train will be included with this route. Personally, I think it's gonna be the 628.
     
  46. captaingunadeep

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    I really hate to believe that it's true. But I will still not believe just because you may want to surprise us with 218 but don't want to ruin it until the first preview of the route.
     
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    I’m expecting it to be the 628. 245s are diesel electric so it doesn’t fit in the route code as well as their built date being 2012 while Niddertalbahn is 1991 - 2010.

    There’s a chance that 642 will be there (altho I don’t like the desiros).

    As for freight all we have that can be placed is the SEHS 66 (there’s a german varient with pzb n stuff but I forgot the class) and the shunters.
     
  48. Callum B.

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    DB BR 266?

    Cheers
     
  49. Xaineth

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    Yup. Altho they’re diesel electrics. I assume we won’t get a freight loco for niddertalbahn till Ludmilla is released or DTG make a diesel loco DLC.
     
  50. OldVern

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    628 will be nice. First German train I travelled on that had cloth upholstery on the seats and not hard vinyl.

    Bit gutted no 218 (guess it's back to Zusi for that) unless of course Maik is throwing a bit of misdirection. First ever 218 haulage was the famous D231 Holland Scandinavian Express ftom Hamburg to Puttgarden. Good job I had the compartment to myself as I spent most of that section hanging out the window! The seats were too uncomfortable anyway in those old UIC coaches!

    Re the 612, quite like this in the Tharandter route, sounds very similar to a UK 220/221Voyager unit. However it was a bit under utilised, in Journey mode at least the runs have dried up and all I'm getting now are tedious all ststions Dosto cab car runs.
     

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