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  1. lukestand#9697

    lukestand#9697 New Member

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    hola como estan amigos de SHello, friends of Train World Simulation, my suggestion to you is that there be an option in the game so that the trains, when starting a route, are completely turned off for that you have to turn them on yourself that would increase the realism of the game. Without further ado, I hope they continue to improve over time, it is the best game in the world, greetings.
    Posdata: Mi inglés no es muy bueno si cometí un error, lo siento.
     
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  2. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    I think your English is fine but I don't really understand your suggestion

    Creo que tu inglés está bien, pero realmente no entiendo tu sugerencia.
     
  3. Stephen Crofts

    Stephen Crofts Well-Known Member

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    Requesting cold starts?
     
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  4. Woroszyl The NS 2000

    Woroszyl The NS 2000 Well-Known Member

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    I have a high guess that yes.
     
  5. Swisstrains

    Swisstrains Well-Known Member

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    well, there are a few services on some routes! E.g. early morning rides on the MSB with the Br146.2
     
  6. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Now, I understand. It's an interesting idea but it doesn't work like that in real life so I think that's why it's not like that. If you want to do a service from a cold start most depot runs will work like that
     
  7. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    From what I know in the UK there are very few times when a loco is actually completely cold and dark when a driver walks up to them.
    This will mainly be true for diesels parked in a depot or where they are stationery for a long time.
    EMUs in several depots I've been to are stored with lights on etc (probably due to cleaning crews etc)
    Some depots also use "shunting drivers" to take ECS trains from depot to the first station where the mainline driver takes over.

    So all in all there may well be less times when a "cold and dark" would be realistic than you think
     
  8. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    I would love to have cold starts in TSW, especially for the diesel locos and units, and an option to watch the cold start from the exterior, the smoke and potential flames even pouring out of the exhaust upon start up, fantastic idea :)
     
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  9. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Correct especially if taking over from another driver during the day. It's a lot less common to start from cold than many people think and certainly not every single trip.
     
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  10. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Yea, for example. When a class 156 is waiting for service it's engine is off and it only gets turned on around 20 mins before boarding. They could do something similar with the class 150
     
  11. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Ask Rivet to implement it lol :D
     
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  12. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Nope, even when parked up for a short while they'd be doing a warm start (so no fuel pump off, brakes bled, battery off etc)
    As my comment above, likely these are "warm starts" rather than everything cold and dark.
    I've seen such in stations such as York where you get 15x parked in the bay platforms and the lights are all off, but they don't shut them down completely
     
  13. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Will do! I have an account on their forums
     
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    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    I was in Mallaig, Oban, Fort William and Glasgow Queen Street and I noticed that the class 156's engines and lights, even pis were off when waiting for service
     
  15. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but cold and dark would include battery disconnect, brakes bled etc
    No surprise the electricals were out if the engine was off and stationery for a while, they would drain the batteries
     
  16. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Cool, would be a great addition to the 150s, making it more realistic
     
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  17. Chiltern railways trains are normally cold and dark at London Marylebone.
     
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  18. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Done! :)
     
  19. antony.henley

    antony.henley Well-Known Member

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    Yes it's a good idea but despatcher doesn't know how to cold start a service. So that's why they are not implemented.
    Although there is nothing stopping you from when on a route and (if you know how to cold start a locomotive or Unit then you can give it a go.
    BCPRail has a few videos on how to Cold start locos and units.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCys5RiNCJLn536sHduSfoDw/videos

    Regards
    Hentis
     
  20. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    That's why we are suggesting to implement cold starts into TSW, but I don't know if that will be implemented though
     
  21. stujoy

    stujoy Well-Known Member

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    It won’t be.

    Some scenarios have cold starts but as many players start with scenarios rather than timetable services it probably isn’t a great idea to have all those starting with a complicated procedure that most players don’t really care for. One cold start scenario is enough for any train. Timetable services usually start with the train ready to go because that’s how a driver would find it and for TSW is the best way to have it.

    For those who do like a start-up they can power the train down and then start it up again if they wish. It wouldn’t be realistic operation but neither would starting a service with a dead train so that shouldn’t matter.
     
  22. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah fair enough, even if there is a cold start option for services starting from a depot, not a service which has been parked at a station for 20-25mins
     
  23. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    In WCL, trains can be waiting for service for up to two hours. That's why I specifically suggested it for that route
     
  24. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    That's a good example of which a cold start should be implemented but the bad news is the feature probably won't be implemented as above posts have stated
     
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  25. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    I think you have misunderstood my comment or I haven't put it across very well as I was agreeing with the point you had made about the fact that, ''there are very few times when a loco is actually completely cold and dark when a driver walks up to them'' which is why I said you were correct. Like I said previously cold starts are a lot less common than what people think.
    Looking back at it you may have just quoted the wrong post as I didn't mention anything about being parked up for any period of time though the comment below mine did.
     
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  26. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I think your right. :(
     
  27. TrainGeek08

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    Sadly so :(
     

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