PC Birmingham Cross City Bug Posting Thread

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  1. londonmidland

    londonmidland Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys.

    I've opened a new thread to specifically allow you to post any bugs or things which don't look and/or perform quite right for the BCC route. This applies to both the route and the Class 323 itself.

    Post away!
     
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  2. Sharon E

    Sharon E Well-Known Member

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    On my first run noted a fair number of stutters and even pauses up to 1 second, service 2R17 the 0807 Lichfield to Redditch run.
     
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  3. OldVern

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    Large pause going up the Lickey on the second Journey run, the Bromsgrove to Birmingham service.
    I had the 32.3 miles driven achievement pop up after doing the Training Centre 323 run and halfway up the Lickey on the above run (i.e. probably 3.23 miles).
    PIS is showing my train as formed 2 cars when of course it is three.
    "I" or Shift-I has no effect on instrument lighting in the cab. (Edit: Disregard, working as intended see below).
    Points and crossing clatter seems too quiet, almost non-existent.
     
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  5. Daisy S

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    That might be because there are no instrument light controls in the cab, Aux ON/Aux OFF are the only things that affect instrument lights irl, they're always on.
     
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    londonmidland Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Daisy, it's kind of a reflex to hit that on most of the other traction units. Disregard that one in my list.
     
  8. Ravi

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    Do you guys know who sets the RD button mappings for the loco? It is missing AWS reset mapping and its annoying to have to reach over to my keyboard every time to reset AWS.
     
  9. AlexNL

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    When all safety systems are enabled on the 323, a beep can be heard as soon as you press Q to acknowledge AWS. I think this is the DSD triggering (as the pedal gets released momentarily to satisfy DSD/DVD). The beeping is annoying when you're just acknowledging AWS, i.m.o. there should be a small delay.

    The mapping on the 323 has some weird things in livery editor, making it impossible to put a shape on the bottom-most bit of the train (e.g. the air dam on the driving cars).

    Changing the setting of the reverser using the keyboard takes rather long, it's much slower than on other trains.
     
  10. phil.elliott

    phil.elliott Well-Known Member

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    Not sure if it's intended, but every time I close the doors on the 323 the door handle animation and sound plays 4 times in succession.
     
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    Tigert1966 Well-Known Member

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    That’s the one thing that’s really annoying me.
     
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  12. Perks390

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    A few things I spotted were:
    • Missing 45mph speed board between Four Oaks and Sutton Coldfield.
    • PIS board display formations as 2 car and 4 car for 3 car and 6 car sets.
    • Between University and Selly Oak there is a bug with the water visual (screenshot attached).
    • The sounds for the 323 are very good, although, between about 17-25mph it doesn't sound quite right.
    Overall, the route is fantastic! I love driving the 323, having worked on the Northern 323s as a technician apprentice several years ago, they've done a very good job with it. Was also really nice to get Daisy's insights into the operation of them!
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  13. ChrisR

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    One major thing I spotted while walking round Platform 1 at New Street:
     

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  14. Princess Entrapta

    Princess Entrapta Well-Known Member

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    I can't get any Class 66 freight services. The article on layers suggested the 66 from SEHS which I have installed would layer in. Going to try installing different routes until I hit on one that actually adds it.

    [Edit] So installing GWE added the 66. Although it hasn't added the HST. I'll see if it shows up once the others like TVL and NTP are installed.

    aaaand, installing TVL added nothing until NTP was installed, at which point the HST and Cl37 appeared.

    Well, I'll be playing the line without layers for now because having them on the same XBox as their TSW2 counterparts causes them to disappear from TSW2 and I still have achievements to get on those lines, so back to only having the four TSW3 exclusive routes installed in TSW3.
     
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    theorganist Well-Known Member

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    I had a fair bit of stuttering particularly just outside Redditch where it "hung" for a few seconds.
     
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    I had an occassion where throttle lock didnt disengage with the doors closing and I had to reopen and close doors again before I could apply power, I suspect I was a little keen switching off DRA and putting the reverser back into forward whilst the doors where still closing and this caused it potentially.
     
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    DTG needs to fix the stuttering and performance in TSW3, soon...
     
  18. Cash

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    When the train terminates at its destination, it does not unload all passengers.
     
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  19. joshgeoff#2817

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    Guard panel on class 323 close door button it closes all doors including the local door, if you can fix for local door to stay open like on IOW 22 then this would be good as this is per real life. Please fix needed other than the guard panel works fine
     
  20. mattwild55

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    - The 30mph board at the end of the southbound Aston platform goes blank when you walk towards it on foot
    - All PIS are saying that the trains are composed of 2 carriages
    - Exterior PIS not functioning on AI trains
    - Door key repeatedly functions every time you use the keyboard shortcut to close the doors

    To be honest apart from that the 323 is absolutely fantastic. The audio setup is spot-on IMO (or at least I've not noticed any huge issues yet over a couple of services).
     
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  21. adamski#9148

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    Is it me or is Lichfield Cathedral missing. Such an iconic building and should be seen from Lichfield City station.
     
  22. bescot

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    The sounds of the 323 go silent for about 75m between New St platforms and the Derby tunnel (The "A" end of the station.
     
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  23. feuer1998

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    The destination "Lichfield City station" is missing in the database. At least the train destination display shows "Not in Service" and the PIS shows an empty field.
     
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    There's something funky going on with the internal PIS screens. On a southbound route, I went for a walkabout at Five Ways; one of the screens was showing "This is Five Ways" and the one opposite it in the carriage showed "This is Four Oaks".

    There's a tear in the canal water leaving Five Ways too where the water level changes and you can see between the two.
     
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  25. solicitr

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    This seems to be a weirdness caused by having TSW2 and 3 both installed- why don't you just delete 2?
     
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    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Like every TSW route ever
     
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    It was supposed to be fixed when Rush Hour came out, but it keeps rearing it’s ugly head.
     
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  28. bescot

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    There seems to be a tile south of Barnt Green on the branch with two missing bridges. One is brick arched footpath over the railway cutting, the next is Sandhills Green which goes under the railway embankment.

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/B...0!8m2!3d52.359707!4d-1.991617!16zL20vMDJ4ZF93

    There are also missing buildings, no lineside fences, very poor foliage, grass, lineside detail. Bit embarrassing really guys. What happened there?

    Edit - to clarify and to tag DTG Matt as requested by folks in the discord.
     

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  29. tsw2

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    Passenger system is more or less broken currently :(
     
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    Also, I drove 2N20 Four Oaks to Longbridge, but the AI kicked me out at Longbridge for the shunt move into the turnback. Not sure if the other LOB terminators do the same. Oddly the return workings start from the turnback siding.
     
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    As mentioned in another thread, the 323 offside cab « door close » button doesn’t work.
     
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  32. mattwild55

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    PIS for a Redditch-bound train at Longbridge Platform 2 reports that the train will call at Barnt Green, King's Norton and Redditch, which does seem like the long way around.

    (Alvechurch, twinned with Bielefeld)
     
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    Lack of lineside fencing on the route in general. If you need specifics, I can provide it. Was hoping to see Villa park but not an issue at all.

    Also, Alvechurch and Barnt Green, are terrible in terms of textures, that needs sorting.

    Main thing is no shadow textures in the cab, e.g. going under bridges. Also very late darkening of the cab in tunnels, when you go from light to darkness mainly.
     
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  34. mattfr

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    On New street an escalator to platform 2&3 that goes down visually cannot be taken from upstairs (invisible block). The block functions correctly for the other escalator next to it (goes upstairs, only accessible from downstairs)
     

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    I am once again reminded of the time the PIS system on a train I was on bugged out and the message cut off before fully displaying all the intended text, so the looping notification was that we'd soon be approaching the final stop "where this train terminates passengers".


    (I assume the intended continuation would have been "are advised to check for any luggage before departing" or somesuch)
     
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  36. royalscot#3684

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    Yes there is also no fencing or buildings, just random trees. It seems they forgot to finish the branch! Does ANYONE test these things before release?
     
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  37. Cheesypuff2

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    This section of track in terms of visual quality and fetial is awful frankly, the worst I have seen on any route tbh
     
  38. andyscotland

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    I got this ealier too
     
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    A few comments that stood out to me.
    -Some insanely bad looking ballast specifically for rain.
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    -After New Street station, light filters into the tunnel.
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    -Is the Redditch platform too close to the train ? I cannot decide whether it should look like this or not.
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    -Lack of vegetation Redditch branch.
    -What's also very disturbing is that there's an incredible amount of stuttering all over the route.
    -The door opener key keeps disappearing when I use the keyboard to open or close the doors.
    -Traction motor very quiet.
    -Several places are missing speed signs.(I have not noted exactly where, but there are places where there is only a speed reduction sign and the speed limit sign itself is missing.)

    Overall, it's not a particularly bad DLC, but it should have had at least one more loco because the whole route is too empty, especially for this price. But we hope that this can be remedied later.
     
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  40. andyscotland

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    On my first run this morning I came across these guys at Barnt Green tryi g to blend into their surroundings 20221117_123500.jpg
     
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  41. bence950906

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    Ooh yes thanks I forgot about that.
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    The tail lights aren't activated on the rear unit in the night scenario in the snow. Intentional maybe?
     
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    Yes, I just checked, you have to go back and turn it on manually.
     
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    Just east of Kings Norton, this collectable "Box of Chocolate" cannot be collected. Seems there is an invisible wall blocking it.
     

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    Again soon many bugs that should have been spotted by QA.
    What is QA doing?
     
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    Ditto here, something is overriding the sound output. This one definitely needs a high priority to fix.
     
  47. OldVern

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    Sweet Fanny Adam's it seems. Don't get me wrong, I like the route but how on earth could the testers not pick up on things like the PIS showing incorrect train length? Or the sound loss as opposed to drop out at Birmingham New Street.
    Hopefully DTG are aware of and following this thread, sorry for ping but DTG Alex
     
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  48. ChrisR

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    Spotted another one this morning - the texture for the VMS is inside the signal, so disappears when close up
     

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  49. DTG Alex

    DTG Alex Community Manager Staff Member

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    We are following this thread closely, and I want to thank you all for sharing feedback and issues.
    As per usual, the more detail you can put into explaining each problem (+screenshots) - the easier it will be for us to diagnose.
     
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    The only big issue i was encountering was passengers being pushed on the tracks at very crowded stations. Had a heart attack and emergency brake at university, but sadly it wasnt enough. RIP Nameless NPC #2443

    Made also a post about it here with a Screenshot

     

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