International Routes In The Future?

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  1. noahm#5683

    noahm#5683 New Member

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    I think that dtg should consider asking Eurostar for licensing or at least complete the marseille to Brussels route
    What do you think of international routes?
     
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  2. lucasfor49

    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    the eurostar would be hyper boring (imo). It had the exact same flaws as Kassal Wurzburg but increase the length and add a massive tunnel for almost half an hour. A tgv extension to Brussels is impossible. "Extenstions" don't really exist. SHES was a complete rebuild more or less from the ground up, and also considering at that point it's Avigon to Brussels.... yeah the mileage is nit possible for tsw. I could see an rebuild up to Lyon at most.
     
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  3. lucasfor49

    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    Albeit international routes would be amazing but we are more likely to have polish German or Swiss Austrian or German Austrian those sort of routes then a eurostar or tgv rebuild.
     
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  4. nie Kolejarz#7489

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  5. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    They probably have tried asking, but eurostar might have said no so dtg have to accept that. Lots of tocs will simply say no due to various reasons and all dtg can do is to be patient and see if they even say yes at all. Which is why the usa is lacking in terms of passenger content.
     
  6. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    How about Duisburg Oberhausen Arnhem Utrecht 156km HDU since it can be merged with HRR to become HDBU.
    It means Hollandstrecke Duisburg/Bochum-Utrecht
    Or L37 Aachen Liege that way it becomes Schnellfahrstrecke Köln Lüttich
    Schnellfahrstrecke Köln Lüttich merges Schnellfahrstrecke Köln Aachen with L37 Aachen Liege
    . Unique feature is that there are Belgian trains HLR 7771-7871 HLE28 Bombardier & HLD 55 running on Schnellfahrstrecke Köln Aachen possibly Rhein Ruhr Osten with the missing Wuppertal Steinbeck Köln Hbf Line
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    When it comes to Germany Austria International You are simply running them through service due to DB & ÖBB using PZB since the 1960s. That's why in some situations you can see a Hauptstrecke Rhein Ruhr DB Baureihe 101 in Villach Hbf via Tauernbahn. This is followed by 185.2 182 Dispolok MRCE DB Baureihe 182 MRCE 185.5 Railpool 185.6 inside Wien Kledering
     
  8. tehangrybird345

    tehangrybird345 Well-Known Member

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    I would like to see a Eurostar route as it has a lot of potential, there are also some good routes that cross the US Canada border I would like to see
     
  9. lucasfor49

    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    I'd personally argue against the first point. If kassel wurzburg showed me anything its that overhyped high speed routes end put becoming huge letdown.
     
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  10. nie Kolejarz#7489

    nie Kolejarz#7489 Member

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    I agree, we have already a lot of HST content in TSW. Interesting would be more narrow gauge railways and more countries. In mentioned by you Kassel Würzburg route, i play mainly cargo services
     
  11. lucasfor49

    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    Honestly yeah more countries would be lovely. If I'm being honest I'd like more rural/commuter German routes as most German routes are high speed. Narrow gauge would be amazing aswell.
     
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  12. nie Kolejarz#7489

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    I know I'm saying this for the second time, but there's a proposed international non high speed German route and I think you would like it. https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...óra-linia-kolejowa-zielona-góra-berlin.61793/
     
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    I mean if we are being honest We haven’t had a real High speed route yet imo
     
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    Skw is a high speed route. We've also had short high speed routes. Unless you're talking about like a 400km route.
     
  16. jack travers

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    When I think of high speed route I would think of a route between 180-250km Distance a speed of 300km/h+ and 1 to no stops between but that’s just my opinion

    I don’t count SKW or LGV as high speed route’s because
    1) LGV is too short you are going 320km/h for like 15 mins distance which is just not enough time to stretch legs
    2) SKW’s Highspeed is only 250km/h (280km/h is barely reachable without having to start braking around 275km/h)
    Which would then mean SKA is A fully highspeed route too (I know that’s what Schnellfahrstrecke means but going 250km/h for 10 mins is nothing)
    3) The fastest train on SKW can only go 250km/h due to it being too light and then the ICE 1 goes 280km/h for like 12 mins total on the Kassel - Würzburg line

    but again this is just my opinion on what a Fully highspeed route is.
    SKW is definitely a start but hopefully soon we will get a long distance highspeed route
    Maybe like a spanish route Or Chinese route
     
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  17. lucasfor49

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    I'd disagree with a few points there. For the speed I feel like it depends on your country, for me, a brit it's anything over 125mph that isn't constantly stopping, I'd slightly agree with the lgv part but skw is definitely high speed.
     
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    That will be LGV CLR Perpignan Barcelona Sants via Girona and Figures Vilafant
    Catalonia Languedoc Roussilon
    Layers to LGV Avignon Marseille St Charles are Renfe S100 & TGV Duplex Dasye 200 TGV Duplex layers to LGV CLR Barcelona Perpignan. Freight Renfe S252 on 1.435m tracks
     
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  19. OldVern

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    A cross border route in mainland Europe set during the classic loco hauled era could be interesting. Something like Valence in France across to Geneva in Switzerland which years ago was hauled by a mighty SNCF diesel loco throughout.
     
  20. nie Kolejarz#7489

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    Maybe Dresden-Déčín in 1980s with some Škoda locos?
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    The Elbtalbahn Dresden Schöna Decin with Deutsche Reichsbahn Baureihe 230 and 118/119
    There is also a Czech Republic 754 locomotive that runs Bad Schandau Decin that runs with Rekowagen the Turex train. This requires DTG to make a Sleeper Rekowagen then Elbtalbahn layers DR BR118 119 & 230 to era 7 German Routes as rail tours when needed
     
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    Well not really, they updated part of the scenery, and added the line till Ashford, all the track that was there is still the same. So it lowkey is an extention but bcs of TSW3, if you had SEHS you got it for free ofc!
     
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    Maybe I should of stated the reasoning behind that - If anything they mostly just updated and semi rehualed the actual SEHS part (or is that just me who notices a HUGE difference between ebbsfleet and Pancras)
     
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    They really worked a lot on that area around the HS1 indeed, bcs there were many things that weren't accurate, and now it is soo
     
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    I mean yeah it was AMAZING and made it accurate but my point does still stand.
     
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    I think DTG have already asked Eurostar for licensing and it was a big NO from Eurostar so a Channel Tunnel route isn't coming any time soon but something I would like to see is an extension of Hamburg-Lübeck into Denmark so the Danish Railways trains can be driven to Hamburg Hauptbahnhof, will this happen, probably not but do I want it to happen, yes I would :)
     
  28. driverwoods#1787

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    That means the Puttgarden Lubeck line with the Puttgarden Rodby Tunnel.
    Here's a quote by OldVern on the Lubeck Puttgarden Rodby route when the Train ferry was in operation.
     
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    A Ferry Sim World could work but you could interconnect between games so when you get to the ferry it'll ask, do you want to switch to Ferry Sim World and it'll automatically switch to the ferry service you are after, then once the journey is complete, it'll then ask if you want to transfer back to TSW and it'll automatically spawn in the service you want and then you drive it away from the ferry terminal :)
     
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  30. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    That can work and it won't need to have both the new team and train Sim World teams work together for Eisenbahn Fahre Puttgarden Rødby Vogelfluglinie Deutschland Dänemark
     
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    So two separate games is what you would prefer, I totally agree but couldn't the games be intertwined or would it have to be separate ;)
     
  32. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    How about this one actually extending Bremen Oldenburg to the Netherlands Groningen Bad Nieuwschans last German stop Leer
     

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