Db Br 111 Leaked On Creators Club???

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  1. Woroszyl The NS 2000

    Woroszyl The NS 2000 Well-Known Member

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    I have a 100% hope that this will be on Creator's Club.
     
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    There is an achievement for driving a cab-car, so there should be one included.
     
  3. Shackamaxon

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    After subscribing to this scenario, my game starts to lag a lot ( while exploring creaters club )...
    Anyone else ??

    Is it because it can't find that loco model on my system or something else ?
     
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    Personally I don't think so by pissing off one of their third party developers. DTG have said it isn't them, TSG has said its not them. So just take it at face value. We basicly have no idea who it is. To be honest I would rather leave it at that for the time being.

    Hentis
     
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  5. rennekton#1349

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    I mean there's an achievement to drive the nwagen so there's definitely going to be a cab car
     
  6. antony.henley

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    Just unsub from it.
     
  7. solicitr

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    I'm way more excited for the 110. I've been waiting since 2017 for an Einheitslok.
     
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  8. Woroszyl The NS 2000

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    The desc being "PersistentDownloadDir" is probs telling us that it's a test scenario.
    Edit: it was just a hint where the actual thing is hidden.
     
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  9. solicitr

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    DTG caught a LOT of flak for not including one with the 101. A cost-cutting measure too far, that was.
     
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  10. Sparmi

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    What's going on here, uncontrolled leaking? Just checked Creators Club, the BR111 is still online and it seems that the leaking person permanently updates his model to make it visible in CC. He's definitly on a Dev build and no regular developer wants to be responsible for it. Two theories: an unintentional leak by CC or CC was hacked and someone is smuggling in 3D models including liveries.

    Either way, that's not a great action, but rather willful suppression. Something like that can destroy the relationship of trust and I have no idea what is to be achieved with this action. :mad:
     
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  11. Shackamaxon

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    Did that already, but the game was going nuts for a while.

    Can't be a simple photoshop... This guy is serious.
     
  12. Woroszyl The NS 2000

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    Still thinking that it's a mod of an completely new level.
     
  13. Shackamaxon

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    But how he did inserted that functionality into DTG's code, without them knowing ?
     
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  14. Bradley

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    This whole things feels strange tbh, DTG and TSG not taking the credit, a mysterious person uploading something that shouldn’t exist onto creators club, someone somewhere isn’t being truthful
     
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    Well, after downloading the scenario, you can find a file named 'B692174EE805F28AE1D49D62D7751478.ugc' under ...\My Games\TrainSimWorld3\Saved\PersistentDownloadDir\UGC\0". Opening that file with Notepad might answer some of the questions, it at least did for me.
     
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  16. Bradley

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    What did you find?
     
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    Everything that's inside that file (would still recommend opening that file yourself so that no one says that I just faked that):

    N’¶ŠòèbÔáxu×ÚÿÿÿB R 1 1 1 : R B 7 2 M ü n c h e n H b f - M e m m i n g e n EUGCType::Scenario Blob ArrayProperty Ú
    ByteProperty Ö Thank you for enjoying this evening's shenanigangs, brought to you by Deinfruehstueck for the 3D model and Foobian for the implementation of the BR 111! And now... story time with Foobian:

    Starting out August 20th 2022 with me reaching out to Deinfruehstueck after being intrugied by his 3D model of the BR 111, I began work on a mod for the BR 112, swapping it out with that very 3D model. The intend from the start was to troll y'all a bit, so mission accomplished I guess ;) . But since August a lot of time passed, so you're wondering what happened? Well basically Deinfruehstueck started work on a new version of the model, I and a friend got some use of the 9€-Ticket collecting references, and got busy with school and stuff.
    On November 4th I got a surprise ZIP containing the first parts of the new model. I soon got to work and from the beginning I worked on it being Livery Designer compatible. The idea to share this whole thing through Creators Club already existed back in August.
    Internally this is a copy paste of the BR 112 (again) with all references (regrettably) changed to "TSG_BR111". I just *had* to put something there, and as it's normal for TSG to not have route abbreviations in their plugin names, I went with that (again regrettably; sorry Maik, but it's not the end of the world for either of us).
    Now it was just a matter of making the loco functional. You know, setting up the materials (plus screaming at UE's terrible Skeletal Mesh pipeline), adding bones to the mesh, bugfixing, getting the rest of the model and doing more of that. Before I knew it Bremen-Oldenburg was right around the corner with that to-be-determined Railfan TV stream, and I finalised everything by making that DB Netz and RADVE livery (that one has 490 layers btw). And yes they are real liveries! I wanted everything to look legit when you look at it in a hex-Editor.
    The last thing I added was a little fake "LIGHTING NEEDS TO BE REBUILD (1 unbuilt object)" message through God Mode, ended up paying off.

    With that, welcome to the present!


    Now I'm not going to promise when or even IF you will ever get your hands on this train, keep your expectations low as with everything TSW and see if that works with Bremen-Oldenburg. Cheers! None
     
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  18. Bradley

    Bradley Well-Known Member

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    What the heck, so someone has indeed hacked DTG, or know more than others
     
  19. raph#6037

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    No, no one hacked DTG. Someone just uploaded stuff to the creators club, god knows how lol
     
  20. Bradley

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    Seems like dtg need to step up there game with creators club
     
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  21. raph#6037

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    Well, regardless of that, the 111 is real and not made by DTG or any of their partners.
     
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  22. Swisstrains

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    That has got to be the biggest plot in the history of TSW :0
     
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  23. Shackamaxon

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    Six letters to describe the situation - OMG WTF
    Forums' going to be on real fire tonight !
     
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  24. LodeStar

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    This is not 'just a mod' this looks to me like something illegal and needing serious action...
     
  25. breblimator

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    sabotage? :D
     
  26. raph#6037

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    Sorry for being stupid, but how is this illegal?
    From my understanding, it's pretty much just a child object slapped on a 112...
     
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  27. Bradley

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    The fact it’s been planned out for so long is interesting, like how they can get hold of UE4 and simugraph is perplexing
     
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    I don’t know, but they didn’t earn money with it. And also it is allowed to bring in “repaints” to creators club- but this is not a repaint anymore.
     
  29. breblimator

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    The very 'unofficial' info: this is the UE5 model converted to UE4.
     
  30. CowBoyWolf

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    F-Block this u?
     
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    Afaik it's really just a child object and nothing that has to do with simugraph
     
  32. Shackamaxon

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    Guys ! We are witnessing the biggest 'incident' ever in TSWs history.

    My only wish at the moment is that DTG or their 3rd parties shouldn't get affected by this in any negative way !
    As far as this person is concerned, I'm not an expert on security matters; can't say what they deserve...

    For DTG, add security upgrades to the top of your list of priorities.
     
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  33. raph#6037

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    Yeah, it was Foob
     
  34. Bradley

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    Very smart people tbh, biggest conspiracy in tsw
     
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    Can agree, having met him irl
     
  36. CowBoyWolf

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    I only know him through TSW4K discord server
     
  37. Shackamaxon

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    Another point of interest -
    In another thread on the forum, something called 'Holiday Express' is supposedly leaked !
     
  38. solicitr

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    This isn't the first time a modder has transformed one train into another (I can think of a very well done conversion of the MP15 into a SW1500). But it is I think the first time it's been injected onto DT Live rather than just uploaded to a mod site.
     
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    For TSC, not TSW
     
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    F59345F9-330B-4AE7-A38B-BC07F0706C5F.jpeg A312BF87-37E2-4D80-9992-BE63C2190DB6.jpeg
     
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  41. Shackamaxon

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    For TSW, my man !!!
     
  42. royalscot#3684

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    I've never understood why DTG haven't encouraged player mods.

    Racing games like Assetto Corsa are often kept alive by fan created content - it is often better than the official content.

    If there was more content in TSW it would sell better. In the UK we still have no 25s, 26s, 50s, 55s, 56s, 58, 59s, 60s,. 67s, 68s - and still only one modern DMU! Neither of the country's two north/south main lines are represented. Wales is ignored completely.
     
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    The 'night' / 'nightmare' of chaos on TSW ( seems so far )
     
  44. LodeStar

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    "The person" is in fact hacking commercial software which is not abandonware. Adding stuff to the software without consent of the owner/publisher and/or used tooling of the publisher. It's like spraying graffiti on a train in real life! ;)

    Edit.
     
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  45. raph#6037

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    1. I'm not the one behind the mod.
    2. As the creator of this whole thing said, all of this was achieved by using the unreal editor, which isn't really an illegal thing either?
    3. We'll see about how that stuff actually got onto creators club, nothing about that is known yet
     
  46. solicitr

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    Yeah. It's a mod. That's what a mod is. Trainsimcommunity.com and rail-sim.de are full of them.
     
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    Because Dovetail would want them to work not only with the PC side of TSW but also the Xbox and Playstation community as well. Thats why there is no route editor or creator as they cannot port it in a way that Console owners as well as PC owners can use it.

    Hentis
     
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    I know, but it is pretty clear DTG (and TSG in a minor matter) think different about this 'mod'... ;)
     
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    Well this is absolutely crazy! GG to these guys because they were certainly able to trick us. Got lucky with the simultaneous appearance of the BR 110 on the trophy list, which made it seem even more legitimate than it really was. That’s a really cool model of the 111 though… hope it doesn’t go to waste.
     
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    I wonder if this is what someone’s built on the unofficial editor. Fact remains the pics suggest a models out there
     

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