Train Sim World 3 Bahnstrecke Bremen – Oldenburg: Preview Stream Questions,thursday, December 1st, At 17:00 Utc

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  1. jack travers

    jack travers Well-Known Member

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    Just to add to the previous reply Munich has 30+ platforms and only 3 are available, Marseille has 10+ platforms only 2 are available. please give us more platforms
     
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  2. florians#7620

    florians#7620 Well-Known Member

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    Just out of curiosity, what is the reason for excluding the ICE services from Gen8 consoles, whilst the BR101 seems to appear? On SKA it was the BR101 which didn’t make the cut for Gen8.
     
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  3. Xander1986

    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    florians#7620 The bottleneck by Gen8 is not how a route is but more the point of how many traingroupes need to be loading. More different trains is heavier to load. DTG checking how many is possible and than they make a decision how many includes
     
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  4. lux#4689

    lux#4689 Well-Known Member

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    On SKA, the ICE is on its own route, and the base, and the 101 was added later as a bonus.
    But the ICE needs to load more different vehicles (I think 8 unique vehicles) vs the 101 (3 unique vehicles), and so needs way more power.
    So if you need to optimize, you can win more by deleting the ICE, than the 101.
     
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  5. Xander1986

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    lux#4689 thats not the case.... AI services use different tasks to do what you see on the screen and their behaviour so it's decreased but more trains means more tasks and more FPS so older consoles has less more power. It's not a case how many coaches are involved. I looks like a real train that both ends have tasks and the middle coaches are empty without a task.
     
  6. lux#4689

    lux#4689 Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is. Matt explained in a stream some time ago, that loading once 8 different vehicles uses way more performance than loading 8 times the same vehicle. The game needs to load the 3D and everything for each vehicle, that runs on the route, even at the time where you start, the train is not around. And 8th Gen consoles have less performance. For that reason on DRA for example, the ICE was not available for Gen8 in the beginning, because it used way more performance than the IC with the BR 101. It was later added in a second timetable, as too many people asked for it. The ICE 3M I think has 8 different vehicles, whereas the 101 with IC only has 3 vehicles. So the ICE 3M is more performance-heavy than the IC.
     
  7. Swisstrains

    Swisstrains Well-Known Member

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    so maybe we will get the ICE layers in a separate timetable later; that would be awesome!!
     
  8. Xander1986

    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    Swisstrains No for the older consoles! For PC and Gen9 all is included!
     
  9. Swisstrains

    Swisstrains Well-Known Member

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    yeah I know; but we also have gotten a separate timetable for DRA for the ICE services- for older consoles also!
     
  10. Xander1986

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    For PC there is no separate timetable... Maybe only for consoles.... With pc you choose the ICE and you see the time thats possible to run. We have one for the Bakelooline with a larger newer one and the old standard version
     
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    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Older consoles simply don't have enough memory and power to be able to handle many different trains. You can have thousands of the same train such as with the 377 and 387 in bml but once you add in other trains like the 166, 465, 475, etc, it uses to too much memory and all you get is crashing. Whether it's ready to be loaded in the background or loaded in, it's still going to be eating up your memory. The 101 and ice1 (even more resource heavy) in particular is a resource hog and older gen consoles don't have that power. There are optimizations being made and stuff but older consoles simply can't load all those trains without causing problems
     
  12. Xander1986

    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    Yes but that was already know for everyone ;)
     
  13. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if you can actually operate a DB Baureihe 110 like a DB BR155 Which means when starting in adverse conditions or stuck with heavy train lower the Traction force Selector and power Tap then Gradually increase it to the Max level at the same time using sander or not? Which is actually easier to do on a PC but requires a keyboard plugged onto the console for console players
     
  14. jack travers

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    Theoretically would we be able to stick a br182 onto the n-wagen in bremen - Oldenburg
     
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    My question is about the services without the cab car are they only in 1 scenario or are some in timetable also?

    Really hope is the 2nd one!
     
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    Matt did say only the scenario has it. He hasn't seen a service without a cab car in tt mode
     
  17. Swisstrains

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    Will it be possible to drive the IC services with the Br110? Would be awesome and realistic :D
     
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  18. Xander1986

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    Swisstrains No i don't think so! The reason is the wrong doorsystem. The IC wagen changed the doors later in the years. TB0 is used by the 110 and the IC wagen are diffrent. But wait for the stream! Maybe they will answer this question :)
     
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    If you are wondering how the timetables between Gen 8 & 9 for routes post 2021 Rush Hour Updtates said on a previous stream by Matt Gen 9 consoles use PC Timetable Gen 8 consoles have their own timetable. That means anyone who has a generation 9 console ends up using PC timetable while a generation 8 console player has a reduced timetable post 2021 Rush Hour update
     
  20. Xander1986

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    Yes thats correct! Gen8 has a lower timetimble with less trains! ;)
     
  21. Mr JMB

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    Can you please show the framerates at Breman Hbf, to make sure that all the AI trains are not dragging the FPS down at the ends of the route.

    Can you please drive the cabcar as well as the BR 110.

    Is there any shunting, any sandbox area where wagons or coaches can be shunted around? Are there any services for the 363 which prepare consists that form later player or AI services?
     
  22. breblimator

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    According to the current information, the BR 155 is only a reskin. This is still great news of course :)

    My question:

    What does the brake setup (PP/GP/LL) functionality look like, including for new Tadgs cars. BR o7
     
  23. Monder

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    I think with Joe behind the timetable wheel (I assume it's him, it has Joe written all over it) there will be some such services, although we will have to control the doors through the menu.
     
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    I hope I am not too late: My questions may be a bit specific, but I actually still live in Bremen, and some 15 years ago I lived in Oldenburg while working in Bremen, so I really had to catch a lot of trains on this route...

    1. Is there a scenario planned that includes problems with the Oldenburg draw bridge, i.e. the bridge stuck in mid-air and having to let people off the train a few hundred meters before the bridge at the rail crossings? I actually experienced this twice...
    2. Will all the smaller stations be included, i.e. Hoykenkamp, Heidkrug, Schierbrok, Bremen-Neustadt, Bookholzberg and, my favorite, Wüsting?!
    3. Will there be a scenario with a huge amount of new passengers extending boardning times at Bookholzberg/Hude because the train in the other direction simply drove past Schierbrok/Hoykenkamp station? Had this happen to my trains at least three times...
    4. The glass-roof at Oldenburg station is in repair since like forever. Will the route reflect the current state or how the roof used to look about 20 years ago?
    5. This route seems to focus on the last moments of N-Wagen used in the area. Are there plans to add Nordwestbahn (NWB) Diesel and Electric trains that replaced the N-Wagen services very soon?
    6. So you have Bremen and Hamburg main stations - is there a route planned between these two cities? Including Sprötze, Scheeßel and Buchholz in der Nordheide stations and the Metronom trains? Maybe even with Maschen Rangierbahnhof, which is like the biggest in Europe?!
    Looking forward to the preview! Have a nice one!
     
  25. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    The answer you will get to some of your questions regarding if this route is coming or is this loco coming, the answer you will get is no plans and not working on it. It's always been the answer if you ask them that question. You won't know what routes are coming until they announce it.
     
  26. lux#4689

    lux#4689 Well-Known Member

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    Are the mixed 1st/2nd-class coaches for the n-Wagen included? Can't see any in the videos and screenshots so far.
     
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    5 Minutes!
     
  28. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Have a question here can the Bahnstrecke Bremen Delmenhorst Oldenburg Baureihe 155 original designation Deutschen Demokratischen Republik Deutsche Reichsbahn Baureihe 250 actually run on Nahverkehr Dresden und Bahnstrecke Dresden Chemnitz Werdau Tharandter Rampe or not?
     
  29. rennekton#1349

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    Only 2nd class
     
  30. AtherianKing

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    By the sounds of it the DB Br 155 that comes with the Upcoming Bremen Route will substitute in wherever the RSN 155 does

    (The services that the RSN 155 brings (not concerning where the RSN 155 substitutes) (mostly if not all on RSN) will require the RSN 155 to become playable with the Bremen 155)
     
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  31. TimTri

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    Really enjoyed the stream. Thanks for answering many of my questions! :D
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    thanks and that means I can simply use the Bremen 155 on it's original home turf the Deutsche Reichsbahn DDR network Riesa-Dresden & Tharandter Rampe Bahnstrecke Dresden Chemnitz Werdau
     
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    Unfortunately I could not join the stream. Did they say anything about Hamburg Bremen in the future?
     
  34. DTG JD

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    Only second-class coaches.
     
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    DTG JD Director of Community Staff Member

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    *gets bingo card out* there's nothing on the Roadmap for that route at present.
     
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  36. rennekton#1349

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    They don't announce routes during stream. And like JD said, not on the roadmap
     
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    Love that profile lol doctor who nice!
     
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  38. LastTrainToClarksville

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    As usual, this route's live stream concentrates on passenger runs, which leads me to ask about freight runs on this route and whether any shunting tasks are included.*

    * Apologies if I'm wrong about the exclusion of freight from the live stream -- I always lose interest long before one of these streams completes.
     
  39. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    This route already came out. Did you mean to post this in another thread?
     

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