Train Sim World 3 Haupstrecke: Basel -> Interlaken

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by jack travers, Dec 5, 2022.

  1. jack travers

    jack travers Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2022
    Messages:
    789
    Likes Received:
    575
    Hey guys
    Today I will be requesting the line that runs from Basel SSB -> Interlaken Ost. Enjoy

    Introduction

    This line is 100km (62 miles) and runs from One of the biggest cities in Switzerland over to the capital city of Bern then it continues back down on the edge of a beautiful lake before reaching Spiez where one line heads south to Milan or East to Interlaken which is our route :)
    Safety Systems are ETRMS/ETCS Level 1 and LZB.
    Pantograph pickup is at 25kV 50HZ AC and the max speed of this linew is 200km/h after leaving Basel SSB Station.

    Trains:

    1. SSB ETR610 “Pendolino”
    This will be the highspeed EuroCity train of the route doing limited stop services along the line. It’s also a tilting train. This has a max speed of 293km/h (182mph) but a service speed of 250km/h (155mph). It’s electrical pickup is 3kV DC, 25kV 50HZ AC and 15kV 16(2/3)HZ AC. And it’s safety systems are LZB, ETRMS/ETCS Level 1 and whatever the Italian safety systems are.
    [​IMG]

    2. Stadler GTW 521/522 RABe
    This is a train we already have in game but, people do complain about lot’s of problems with this train. This could be a chance to redeem themselves, anyways this train has a max speed of 200km/h (125mph) and can run commuter trains outside from Basel, Bern, Interlaken and Thun. Pantograph pick ups are 15kV 16(2/3)HZ AC and maybe 25kV 15HZ AC
    [​IMG]

    Scenarios:
    Introduction:
    Spawn in at Bern HB and head out on a train heading towards anywhere (difficulty-1)
    (duration-5mins)

    Getting used to it:
    Operate a service from Basel to Geneva but only as far as Bern for another driver to take over (difficulty-2)(duration-1hr10mins)

    Snowy stopper:
    Take this RABe 521 from Basel on an S1 Service from Basel to Thun but the snow is slowing trains back and stopping them randomly so watch out for signals
    (difficulty-3)(duration-1hr30mins)

    Fast track to the lake’
    Take this ETR610 from Basel SSB to Interlaken Ost but do to a signaling fault in Bern you are running ten minutes late so the Signaler let you skip Spiez and Thun to make up time, use this as your advantage to speed up and get on time but signals still might not be in your side (difficulty-5)(duration-2hr10mins)

    Bringing it in and back:
    Form your train formation of 8 at the nearby depot of Basel for your S3 service to Olten, after forming your train wait a few minutes to get into the right platform. After that swap sides of the train and bring it to Olten then swap sides again and bring it over to Porrentruy but only as far as Basel SSB
    (difficulty-4)(duration-1hr35mins)

    Next slide is Platforms and Services/Layers.

     
    • Like Like x 8
  2. jack travers

    jack travers Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2022
    Messages:
    789
    Likes Received:
    575
    Stations: Important only.
    1. Basel SSB - Start of this trip for ECE
    2. Liestal -
    3. Sissach - Limited stop for ECE
    4. Olten - Branches off to Luzern
    5. Bern - Train must reverse out
    6. Thun - end of S1 to Bern
    7. Spiez - branches off thru Gothard Tunnel
    8. Interlaken West
    9. Interlaken Ost - End of the line

    Services:

    ECE:
    EC: Basel to Milan (Spiez)
    EC: Milan to Basel (Spiez)
    EC: Basel to Domodossola (spiez)
    EC: Domodossola to Basel (Spiez)
    EC6: Interlaken to Hamburg (Basel)
    EC7: Hamburg(Basel) to Interlaken
    EC52: Milan(spiez) to Frankfurt (Basel)
    EC53: Frankfurt (Basel) to Milan (Spiez)
    ECE151: Basel to Luzern (Olten)

    SBahn: (here we go)
    S1: Basel to Frick (Pratteln)
    S1: Frick (Pratteln) to Basel
    S1: Basel to Laufenburg (pratteln)
    S1: Laufenburg (Pratteln) to Basel
    S3: Basel to Olten
    S3: Olten to Basel SSB
    S3: Basel SSB to Laufen
    S3: Basel SSB to Porrentruy
    And that’s all I’m doing because if I did all it would take me more than my 2 hour time limit.

    Layers:

    Br406 “ICE 3M”:
    ICE474: Basel SSB -> Kiel Hbf
    ICE206: Basel SSB -> Köln Hbf
    ICE4: Basel SSB -> Frankfurt Hbf

    Br401 “ICE 1”
    ICE3: Karlsruhe Hbf -> Zürich HB
    Playable:
    ICE275: Berlin Ost(Basel) -> Interlaken Ost
    ICE278: Interlaken Ost -> Berlin Ost(Basel)
    ICE371: Berlin Ost(Basel) -> Interlaken Ost
    iCE372: Interlaken Ost -> Berlin Ost(Basel
    ICE373: Berlin Ost(Basel) -> Interlaken Ost
    ICE376: Interlaken Ost - Hamburg Al(Basel)


    TGV 200 Series “Duplex”
    Now this train obviously can’t layer due to none of the safety systems being on the TGV we have. DTG gave us the worse TGV Duplex out of all them.
    But if they were to layer even if they aren’t drivable:
    TGV9206: Zürich -> Paris Gare De Lyon
    TGV9203: Paris Gare De Lyon -> Zürich
    TGV9210: Zürich -> Paris Gare De Lyon
    TGV9218: Paris Gare De Lyon -> Zürich

    Now I’m pretty sure that’s all their is please interact and tell me what you think
    If you can tell me how long the ICE platforms at Dresden and Riesa are that would be amazing.
    https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/can-someone-with-dra-check-something-for-me.62246/

    If you have anything to Correct me with don’t hesitate to!
     
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2022
    • Like Like x 4
  3. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2021
    Messages:
    9,678
    Likes Received:
    6,006
    Correction Switzerland actually uses 15kv 16.7hz like Germany and Austria. You forgot Freight locomotives in the form of SBB Baureihe RE474 * 484 because they would be going towards Italy via the Alpine Base Tunnel the nearest one is Lötschberg Base Tunnel. You got to consider the existing SBB S-Bahn Luzern Sursee which is actually part of Bahnstrecke Olten Luzern giving Rabe 523 to here.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  4. jack travers

    jack travers Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2022
    Messages:
    789
    Likes Received:
    575
    Thanks
     
  5. MJCKP

    MJCKP Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2023
    Messages:
    557
    Likes Received:
    1,041
    Would definitely like to see Interlaken in TSW :)
     
  6. Yassine

    Yassine Active Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2025
    Messages:
    81
    Likes Received:
    185
    Interesting suggestion, I would love to drive a Swiss high-speed train.

    Regarding the length of ICE platforms, I believe that in Dresden they are approximately 341 m, but I have no idea about Riesa.
     
  7. jesper2805

    jesper2805 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2025
    Messages:
    920
    Likes Received:
    1,031
    Unfortunately, the Swiss railways no longer cooperate with simulator developers. It’s still possible, but anything realistic has to be removed. The SBB has stated that they consider it a risk and don’t want to make people more knowledgeable than necessary in order to prevent potential joyriding or other risks that can harm passengers.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. Emmy_MAN

    Emmy_MAN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2022
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    818
    Apparently, that's no longer entirely correct.
    Have a look at my posts; I've written something new about it somewhere.

    Just recently, two new SBB trains were created by SimTrain.ch, and they also run on SBB or BLS routes.
    And the trains have all the functions integrated in the TSC, just like in real trains.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Helpful Helpful x 1
  9. jesper2805

    jesper2805 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2025
    Messages:
    920
    Likes Received:
    1,031
    I do have some reservations about this publisher... I also wonder if they received everything officially. Putting logos on something obviously doesn't mean they're doing everything honestly. I'll leave it at that and don't want to start any big debate.
     
  10. Emmy_MAN

    Emmy_MAN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2022
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    818
    @jesper2805

    I know the owner of SimTrain.ch personally; he even worked for RHB himself back then.
    And I know that he would never publish anything that wasn't allowed.

    Then there's a new SBB train for TSC, and that's from trainsimulator.ch.
    It's not available to buy yet, but he or the builders have incorporated everything into TSC for the SBB RBDe 560 “DOMINO” just as it works in real life.
    Here is the link to the train.
    https://www.trainsimulator.ch/de/sbb-rbde-560-domino.html

    So something must have changed at SBB.
    As I am currently unable to work due to a personal accident, I am unable to clarify anything further at the moment.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  11. indeed_w

    indeed_w Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2025
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    43
    I am a train driver for BLS and I just checked out a Video on SimTrain about the Lötschberg Line. I'm not sure how much of it is licenced, the track layout seems to be fine, but the signals are wrong. Maybe it's just built upon Maps/Google Earth, not sure if that needs licencing.

    However the Cab interiors of the BLS-Locos are real and also the rest of the train looks perfect and might to be licenced... Maybe they realized Train Simulators are also a way of making kids (and adults! we are recruiting even 40+ ;)) want to become train drivers - in fact I also started on MSTS a long time ago :D

    We are now also allowed to make videos while driving (with fixed camera obviousely) as long as we don't show any kind of operational control actions... So for TSW with proper train control systems I'm not sure if they would be allowed to do.
     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2026 at 9:29 AM
    • Like Like x 3

Share This Page