Train Sim World: Past, Present, Future

Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by DTG Benjamin, Dec 21, 2022.

  1. Mattty May

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    Maybe the US route is an extension to Boston Sprinter - if the route has the new lighting, that would suggest a degree of rebuilding. Maybe it’s been extended like SEHS to make better use of the Acela. The Acela could unlock the extension.
     
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  2. mrchuck

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    It’s probably the new Haven to New York line.
     
  3. steveownzzz#6107

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    Wow. I was wishful to see Boston get a tsw3 upgrade one day. Didn't think that would actually happen, but I'm super stoked to see that it is. Very exciting, very excited for 2023.
     
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  4. paulossj4

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    I hope that with the improvement on the Boston route, this can set a precedent to also improve the London Commuter, and who knows, add the Thameslink 700, why not?
     
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  5. steveownzzz#6107

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    Man, I wish, but if they were to lengthen the route specifically to accommodate Acela, it'd be a super long route. Here's a screenshot just to give you a big picture idea, new haven is probably the only option and that's crazy far from providence.
    I think it'd be super unlikely tbh

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  6. Blacknred81

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    The next Aleca stop past Providence is New Haven, and would push the New Haven to Boston line to almost 150miles.
     
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  7. driverwoods#1787

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    Correct because the Heritage Road is connected to that line furthermore there are articles from 18th to 19th February 2019 which tells the possibility of owners of Falkirk Highline getting 2019 Cathcart Time table with 385s doing the Newton trips during 05:00-10:00 AM Rush PM Rush 16-21:00 . Scotrail has a tweet about 385 Cathcart Circle dating back to 26th September 2019.
     
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    240 km that makes it doable for Train Sim classic although pushing the limit for TSW3
     
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  9. mattwild55

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    My Christmas wish (if one is allowed such things) is that this is exactly the plan and explains the lack of fixes and improvements to London Commuter so far (even the really basic stuff like Reigate scenery, missing rails at Redhill, stuff that wouldn't even really need loads of testing has just been abandoned).

    The 700 and a host of fixes would massively improve the route. It's probably (definitely) too much to suggest that DTG could merge it with East Coastway while they're at it and finally implement the missing Victoria - Eastbourne services.
     
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  10. Anthony Pecoraro

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    Super hyped for the Acela! Also nice to see Boston-Providence get upgraded!
     
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  11. jack travers

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    Everything here is a day one purchase :)
    Nobody in my house is getting any gifts because I need to buy trains :cool::cool:
     
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  12. nepclassof84

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    I would be shocked if the new us route is not a segment of the nec
     
  13. nepclassof84

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    Unless it’s the old Hoboken main line the njt will be on the nec
     
  14. Mattty May

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    There is no distance limit on TSW 3. DTG has said a route could be 1,000 miles - it’s only the development time that’s the limitation.
     
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    That probably is expecting too much then.
     
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  16. flirt745

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    Wonderful that the Class 385 and the Acela Express are among the new things coming to TSW 3 in the future. :)
     
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  17. florians#7620

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    Wow!! This has me looking forward to 2023 even more now. All looks fantastic! Niddertalbahn with Mintgreen 628‘s…a nice variation, the 385 looks stunning, and that Acela will be a great addition to the NEC. The Steam Railtour is most likely for WCL right? All is very much worth getting. Need that addon manager more than ever now!
     
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  18. Yerolo

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    Whilst we are all being nostalgic about the past, let us all remember how absolutely nuts August 18th 2020 was.
    For a refresher, it was the day the very first roadmap was published and 2 days before the release of TSW2

    In this roadmap was nothing less than 7 new route reveals (8 if you include the previously teased /revealed Isle of Wight). None of this 'UK route', 'DE route & 'US route' we get nowadays.

    Isle of Wight
    Munich - Augsburg
    SE High Speed: London - Faversham
    Arosa Line
    Cane Creek
    Clinchfield Railroad
    Hamburg - Lubeck
    LGV Méditerranée: Marseille - Avignon

    I know this is from a time before DTG realised the error of their ways of revealing too much too early, but I just want to remind everyone of an event we will most probably never likely to see again in the TSW franchise and the amount of buzz it created here at the time. It is safe to say most if not everyone here was gobsmacked by the vision of the future we were painted when prior to this, we were only drip fed information.

    On that note....looking forward to the Acela and what is in store for 2023. Merry Xmas all
     
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  19. Victor4815

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    how see deatils of Community & Mastery Challenges?
     
  20. Schuppenheizer

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    Maybe the steam engine is on the severn valley railway, and we see a part of Daniels Mill? Steam of lights...
     
  21. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    cuz it's not ready yet and still probably heavily being worked on and dtg not comfortable announcing it. Things are always in different levels of development, so things will get announced when ready
     
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  22. rennekton#1349

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    It's not a new route which is why it's not called a loco or route dlc. It's for an existing route. Definition of an enhancement pack. You get nothing new. Existing trains on an existing route with scenarios, timetable and nothing much.
     
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    The 700 would only benefit next gen consoles and pc since last gen console players can't get layers anyway. And bml would definitely have more performance issues cuz of all the layers (66, 166, 313, 465, 43, 375, now a 700) lol
     
  24. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Once the route gets complex with lots of different scenery, yards, twists and turns, and deadlines, route building gets more difficult and timeconsuming. You have to get the scenery right and stuff, making it quite difficult to build 240km of route.
     
  25. rennekton#1349

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    If you look at it from a different perspective, there are no older german routes. Most of the german content in tsw are modern traxx locomotives set in modern times. We only got bremen oldenburg which had a 110 and nwagen coaches, but not really new new since it's set in 2009 i believe (i forgot).
     
  26. jack travers

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    I think highspeed routes that are 240km would be easier to make than for commuter right ? Couldn’t they just auto fill most parts of the routes. Routes like SKW don’t have to be 100% correct just due to the speed you are traveling at meaning you won’t get to see it
     
  27. rennekton#1349

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    I think I remember cactusjuice replying in another thread that the 5 missing services are not for the acela.
     
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  28. rennekton#1349

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    Autofill only does part of the route and dtg still has to go in to add in scenery by hand I believe. Autofill was used on lgv which didn't please certain people cuz of incorrect scenery or lack of in some areas. If there are glaring omissions or completely incorrect scenery, then you would be able to see that as you fly past.
     
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  29. aeronautic237

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    https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/boston-sprinter-layers.62441/#post-577998

    You are partly correct in that there are more than 5 (obviously, 5 would be very disappointing!) but I think those 5 are some kind of special service that involves the Acela. CactusJuice, being a developer, probably has a painful contractual agreement preventing him from saying anything, although he didn't say no to the Acela!
     
  30. stujoy

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    You could be right. It’s not beyond the realms of possibility although it would arguably be the biggest route undertaking by DTG so far. It’s a long way to New Haven. It is the kind of thing people have been asking for.
     
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  31. Kangaroo Conductor

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    I am 100% alone here, but I would hope for it being a remake / extension of NEC New York. For multiple reasons. For one, it could re-introduce the lost rolling stock from TSW2020, like the Switcher, GP38, or the cab car. Also, I liked the route and would like it to return. And lastly, if it gets an extension, it would make up for the critique that it would have weird start and end points!
     
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  32. cloudyskies21

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    Really excited by this announcement, some great things to look forward too! I'm a big fan of EMUs, so the Class 385 should be a fantastic addition and might be my most favourite loco after the Electrostars of course.

    The main thing though that still makes me nervous is what the timetable of the new Scottish route will be like - I really hope it will be a Joe-inspired timetable with lots of AI traffic, service variety and loads of adverse signals like London Commuter, that would be brilliant. The timetable is the biggest aspect of how much I will enjoy a route in the long-term, so please hopefully not resulting in a lack of traffic at big stations like Glasgow or New Street as seen in previous Cathcart and Cross City routes, respectively etc.

    Finally, really glad to see DTG are listening to the community by bringing such a highly-requested loco with Acela come to TSW.
     
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  33. rennekton#1349

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    The acela was kinda a given lol since when Boston providence released, they said there was space saved for the Acela and they went on a nyc recording trip
     
  34. rennekton#1349

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    You mean the gp40-2
     
  35. jack travers

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    That was a really weird route having Penn in the middle and the western terminus being Newarks Airport but you do you !!
     
  36. cActUsjUiCe

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    i dont see these missing 5 being the Acela. i'm not sure what is going on with those missing services
     
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  37. Kangaroo Conductor

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    Whoops. Still getting those numbers mixed up, but thanks !

    That's the point an extension would fix ! They would need an extension anyway to justify a new purchase, or people would complain why they would pay for a route they owned a few years ago.

    And even tho the route might not be in everyones favorite ranking, at least the rolling stock deserves to be brought back! They already gave us the amfleet cars, and the ACS 64, how about the GP40-2 and the switcher next, please ... ?
     
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  38. Blacknred81

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    Technically, one of the speculated routes for the new one is NYC to Trenton, which would include at least part of the old NEC NYC route. But I don't think it will include the east side of the map aside from Amtraks yard.
     
  39. Subway

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    yeah they announce other things that werent on the roadmap yet . order of roadmap they claim is when stuff is released , US route been worked on doesnt mean they cant announce it.
     
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  40. solicitr

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    Finally! A Deutsche Bundesbahn route!
     
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  41. PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix

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    That would be so amazing, which I really do hope so, then we will see them make the New Haven Line for Metro North. I feel that the American passenger route should be increased, cause so far I see so many german add-on layers, and i believe they should give that same love to American Passenger Route.
     
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    Thing is, aside from length, DTG also doesn't have a CTrail license, which operates trains between New London and New Haven. Meaning even if DTG somehow extends the line all the way to New Haven, there would be a hole in traffic cause by the lack of CDOT equipment.
     
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  43. PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix

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    Hopefully, the new US Rolling stock or route will be NJT, with these train cars. IT SHOULD BE ABOUT TIME NJT IS ADDED TO TSW ALREADY. We need something NEW

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    Nice news. I'm looking forward to the 628 in "Bundesbahn livery" and the Acela Express.
     
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  45. OldVern

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    TBH if it is West Cornwall, both Rivet and DTG have a bit of a nerve trying to squeeze more cash out of two failed DLC'ss. West Cornwall still has all the issues with the route itself and the awful 150/2, bet nothing being done to address those. Then the steam traction from SoS has massive physics issues in TSW3 and all we have seen are open ended statements that it's being worked on. A pass for me, I'm afraid.
     
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    The plan is for the physics improvement to be out prior to this pack's release.
     
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    That is good news.
     
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  48. OnlyMe1909

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    All looking very nice and dandy, but I'm not buying any more stuff untill the Add-ons manager is released on PS4 as I'm maxed out on pcs of DLC, and we can't switch DLC's as our PS5-brothers can :(
     
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    Then you can release a proper addon for SoS with new locos, or even a route extension to Manchester from Liverpool, please!
     
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  50. simontreanor81

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    Yeah, I'm basically at my limit now - I've had to focus TSW3 to almost entirely German routes, because they're all connected, layer-wise.
     
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