I wish they did a completely new and original US passenger route again. It’s been ages since that last happened if you think about it, with Boston Sprinter and Harlem Line getting their main rolling stock from past add-ons and both also being based in the same area of the US.
There aren’t many new and unique passenger routes one could make. Outside of subways in major cities. I don’t consider metro north or lirr a subway. you have the nec, lirr, metro north, njt, meta in chicago, septa and Marc. The new florida line is still under construction and will likely not have much traffic. Passenger operations isn’t as widely used here in the us like other parts of the world
Yes, as far as being unique goes, the choices for contemporary locos and rolling stock can be somewhat limited. However, I do believe that there is still potential for new routes centered on NYC, Philly, Chicago, LA, and possibly San Diego. Of course, when considering historical routes there is much more available
You can't really do much without the licenses which are harder to get in the US compared to the uk or germany for instance. Lots of private operators in the US dtg don't have the license to or can't get it. Examples being marc, metra, septa, go transit, via rail, etc. So with their current licenses being mta, mbta, possibly njt (no dlc yet), amtrak, there really isn't much dtg can do outside of the East Coast. They have caltrain, but that is just 1 route. And freight is easier simply cuz dtg has the csx, bnsf, cn, up licenses and possibly ns even though skyhook made the route, so it's easier to create freight which is all over the country. Sure, long distance passenger trains exist, but there wouldn't be much gameplay.
Agreed. Which reinforces the argument for vintage, since the RR DTG already have deals with control most if the fallen flag trademarks
Ah, if only. Yes, and DTG have shown that they can do that successfully with Clinchfield. And they've certainly done it in TSC. Something with B&O or CNW, for example, would be very popular, I would imagine. Or, out West, Western Pacific, SP or DRGW, possibly. All of these fallen flags should already be licensed or could be from the current IP owners ( mostly NS and UP ).
2 reasons its not. 1: Length. Thats about 130 miles, no way in hell is DTG doing that for TSW3, especially with a high density route. TSC only got the DC to Baltimore treatment. 2. Licensing: No MARC license, so no commuter traffic, so Amtrak only route.
My guess would be NEC New York-Trenton it's a good length route for both Amtrak and NJT now that the Acela has been confirmed if they set the route up to when the section of track between New Brunswick and South Brunswick it would allow the Acela to run at 150MPH for 16miles also it would be a good route to introduce NJT into TSW using the ALP46 and the multi level passenger cars plus it's another route for the ACS-64 to run and they could potently reintroduce the Amfleet cabcar again later down the line for the Keystone trains
I think everyone would be in shock if it wasn't. A good chunk of the community have guessed that it would be that section of the NEC. All we can do is wait for a leak or a DTG announcement.
My route suggestions (with possible locos): -BNSF Seligman Sub with GP60 or B40-8W, ET44C4, and Amtrak P42DC; ATSF 4-8-4 #3751 DLC; ATSF 1990s version with C40-8W or C44-9W, ATSF GP60, and Amtrak F40PH or P40DC; ATSF 1970s-80s version with C30-7 or U36C, SD40-2, SD45, or SD45-2, and GP39-2; ATSF 1950s-60s version with GP9, Alco RSD-15, and SD24 -Grand Canyon RR with GP7u, F40FH, and Alco FPA4/FPB4; GCRY 2-8-2 #4960 and 2-8-0 #29 would be awesome DLCs. -SP Peninsula Corridor with SD9, FM Trainmaster, and GP9; DLCs: SDP45 -WP Feather River Canyon with U30B, GP20, GP35, GP40, or GP40-2, and F7 A/B w/ California Zephyr Passenger Consist -Horseshoe Curve (Conrail Locos: C39-8, SD80MAC, SD70MAC, SD45/SD45-2 GP38-2; PRR Diesel Locos: SD45, FM Trainmaster, Baldwin RF-16 Sharknose, Baldwin Centipede, GP7/GP9, SD9; PRR Steam: H10 Consolidation, T1 Duplex, K4s Pacific, J1 2-10-4 Texas, B6sb 0-6-0) -BNSF Stevens Pass or Marias Pass with Amtrak ALC-42 Charger (or P42DC), BNSF ET44C4 or C44-9W and GP60 -ATSF 1950s Raton Pass with 5000, 5001, or 5011-Class 2-10-4 Texas and 3751, 3765, or 3776-Class 4-8-4; plus an ATSF GP7 or FM H-12-44 for switching -SP 1940s-50s Donner Pass with AC-series Cab Forward, 4-10-2 SP-2, and 2-8-0 Consolidation -UP Bailey Yard; North Platte, Nebraska route with SD70AH-T4 or C45AH, GP60/GP62 rebuild, and SD70M; DLCs: SD59MX, C45ACCTE, C44ACM (either a rebuilt AC4400CW or AC6000CW/C4460AC), Genset Switcher
Which has nothing to do with the topic at all. Nothing of your list is possible for this route as the route code is already given. There is a suggestion sub-forum for that.
No way is DTG doing a route with more than one new engine. They used to, long ago, but that's not happening again.
I think th last routes we got with more than one new engine might of been the rush hour routes. (I use the term loosely as the 377 was updated from ecw)
And the 387 was derived from it as well; and the 375 is just another variation so SEHS doesn't really count either. SoS got two almost by necessity, as the only steam route and only 50s-era route in existence. And the two Staniers share a lot of comnponents.
Funny how we've all been " persuaded " that one new locomotive per route is now acceptable. For $40 a pop, each route should come with at least two.
Very true. I would have been nice if Birmingham had a 170 aswell, it could have provided a few runs on the route along with filling out new street a bit.
new locos do take a while to make. From the sounds, physics, simugraph, service patterns, 3d art, features, how much time they are allotted.
It’s not new that there is only one new train with each route, it was only a few routes that got more than one and generally it was the first of each type of route and some later release bundle routes too. Some get reworks or new versions of old trains in addition but it has been standard for routes to get only one brand new loco/train for the majority of TSW’s existence.
It may not be new but it isn't what most of us expected back when TSW launched. It didn't stop people complaining about the paucity of drivable and AI trains included in the recent releases of Cajon and BCC. And I suspect that many players believe that we have been and continue to be short-changed in respect of included locos, especially given the recent price increases. Routes are really quite expensive now, when you compare them with other games in the Steam store. The situation might be somewhat ameliorated if DTG were releasing loco dlc's which could be integrated into existing routes, as they have done in TSC. But those have been few and far between
Hopefully between February and March. I estimate the Acela will release either later this month or early next month
What about the Alaska RailRoad? or the Surfliner? As ideas for passenger us routes, they don't always have to be high speed.
Valid. Not sure if DTG has a code that would include both type. How about If they did the section from New Haven to Stamford.Would ,that would fall under the AC overhead. So that’s means the north jersey coast line can’t be in the mix since is not electrified between Long Branch and Bay Head.Also the Morris &Essex lines which or not electrified west of Dover. If this is the case it only leaves the NEC line between Trenton and Penn station.
I venture a route featuring the M8 would be coded NBC: North America, AC electric, DC electric. Compare SEHS (GBC-R7-01)
I think it is this but there are things it could be besides this. 1 - Amtrak anywhere on the NEC south of trenton to DC or north of NY penn to providence 2 - A number of other NJT lines like the mainline, the north jersey coast line, the morris line etc. My fingers are crossed though that it's ny penn to trenton with amtrak and njt to trenton plus north jersey coast line as far as woodbridge or south amboy (2-4 stops past mainline) and morris line to newark broad street (1 stop off mainline) plus morrisville and sunnyside yards
That would be very cool if we get both the Acela with NJT services, featuring the Comet IV/V/ MLV, along with the ALP45DP and ALP46A. The Amfleets and ASC-64 could be used for Northeast regional services as well
Since it's ac electric and if it was njt then only the alp46 would come since the 45dp is dual power which isn't part of the route code
I would caution people not to let their expectations run too high. Remember that the standard these days is one new loco ( likely the Acela ) and perhaps one repurposed engine. There's a good chance that we may get either an ACS-64 or, if we're lucky, an ALP46 with some limited NJT activity.
I doubt the Aclea would come with the New route, I predict if it's a mixed NEC with Amtrak and NJT, that the ALP46 is the new loco, and the ACS 64 is reused. The Acela layers in from the Boston Loco DLC.
I think the Acela will be on the new route. It doesn’t make sense to create it and have it only for Boston to providence.
Not new. A version of the m7 and m3 for lirr. Not exactly the same. There's differences in physics and the model. But still not a completely new emu
One new US route suggestion I would like to see (If it ever happens) is the southern part of the NEC between Washington, D.C. to Baltimore since DTG has Amtrak but would love to see it extended to Philadelphia if possible, and the reason being is that in the original TSW back in 2020 you had NEC New York which went from New Rochelle to Newark Liberty Airport which goes though New York’s Penn Station (The central part of NEC). Then you had Boston Sprinter on TSW 2 which was from Boston to Providence (The Northern part of NEC). So if TWS 3 does Washington, DC to Baltimore route (The Southern part of NEC), then that covers the entire NEC and it also coves at least 4 of the 5 Major Cities on the NEC (Boston’s South Station, NYC’s Penn Station, Baltimore’s Penn Station, & Washington’s Union Station) with only Philadelphia’s 30th street station missing in the TSW series.
The stretch from Baltimore to DC is just about the dullest part of the NEC, 35 miles, 40 minutes, straight as an arrow and sometimes one intermediate stop. It would only be relieved by the inclusion of MARC commuter trains for which DTG does not have a license.
