It's a strange one isn't it - definitely something not made in tsc by them as they didn't do much tsc. I'm guessing it's likely Welsh or Midlands though - very likely to be a sprinter route maybe SWCL or CVL - it could also be the esk line so really any northern routes with Sprinters.
I don't think anyone's suggested this yet, but could it be the class 180 DHMU as it would make sense. It could also be a sprinter which might be more likely as they do use diesel hydraulic transmission. Also, it would make sense for the era though it could be a heritage railway but that wouldn't work out as it would be too short.
Class 180 on the Cotswold Line now that could be a possibility, Oxford to Worcester with the HST and 166 layered in as necessary.
As much as I'd like that, wouldn't they have to renegotiate to use the FGW livery? If it is the Adelante, if they're not doing a stretch of the ECML it would have to be something like Sunderland to Northallerton or Bradford to Doncaster. Wouldn't really demonstrate their 125mph top speed but it's all I can really think of.
Badly needs a decent Class 158 ! ( and a totally reworked 150/2 ) Also could do with a decent overhaul of the Class 47. Bogie running sounds, wind noise, brake air hissing noises, higher up driving cabview camera position, brake rub sounds. Would be nice ! Doubt it’ll ever happen though.
SVR is a must have for me. The line has some old fashioned well kept Stations and is often used for filming. A new TV drama is currently being filmed there. The SVR is a very appealing route as is the KWVR. Would love to see both included in TSW3 as I would Manchester to Crewe, via Stockport and the Airport. Matt said last night that he would love to see the Ffestiniog railway in the game. His favourite heritage line!
I’ve just realised, Diesel Hydraulic could be one of those awful ghastly warship ugly things. Hope not.
Not a Warship fan then. These were legendary on Western Region metals and surely a must have for most people.
I would love to see at some point a 60's WR route with the Warship featuring, I think they were stylish. This clearly won't be such a route though.
Diesel electric and diesel hydraulic has given me hope of a Yorkshire route set in modern day. I didn't watch the roadmap stream so I am not sure of any hints etc if any, but I am thinking (hoping) it's gonna be something like Leeds to Scarborough/Hull with the Class 185 (diesel hydraulic) and Class 68 (Diesel electric) with MK5a coaches with the driving trailer at the back. It also gave me hope of my local line the calder valley line with some sprinters which are all diesel hydraulic, although I'm not sure of any diesel electric trains which run on there except for the occasional 66 run.
It could apply to the Class 220, 221 and 222 voyager/meridian DEMUs, the Class 230, 231 or 769 units. The Bi-mode Class 800 series units might also count. Probably just another Class 66 though.
As much i would like to see a class 25 in tsw3, just cant immagine skyhook deliver to expected standards. The release state of their rolling stock speaks for it self. Br187, 44cw rear bogie still the wrong way around (botched out of dtgs original sandpatch 44cw). So now my thoughts, how do they deal with the dual brake system of UKs classic br diesels? Exhauster isolation, traction isolation or release valves? (Nice little details already present!) After buying all of skyhooks dlcs, they better should stay away from releasing rolling material until the either care or become capable of creating the content without a huge customer frustration.. Differently it looks about their routes, got surprised on the positive side and would pretty much buy all of their future routes as day1 purchais.
I'm more of a steam fan, so I'd much prefer something with Castles and Kings. I've always thought a route set during the transition between steam and diesel would be good. Best of both worlds.
Just putting it out there, could all these new route providers be part of a twisted plot to start filling in branch lines and/or extensions
I agree and you did help me on trains that actually run on Calder Valley Line. Since I ended up using all of Northern Rail DMU fleet on my Calder Valley Line Suggestion
Warships were a DB V200 that had been put on a diet. But the original Warships (D600) were indeed ugly.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The 5 D600s were trailblazers and had a unique charm. Such a shame that all 5 were scrapped.
A new train should already be certain according to one of the previous roadmaps. It would make a lot more sense to me if it became class 68 because of the MK3 wagons that are now being tackled for the HST. Who knows, they might do the TransPennine Express with the class 800 or 68 something like following the trend and placing their city in the route. Liverpool here we come
A thing of beauty! Perhaps one day…but it won’t be this route by the sound of it. Imagine Plymouth to Exeter, with the South Devon banks and the sea wall, set in the 60s or 70s, with Warships and Westerns. That would be incredible.
Do you seriously expect all of those trains to be included? We know, but depending on whether DTG's code system includes a specific bi-mode number or not, diesel electric may be the closest thing available.
That would point to Marshlink no? It’s a short route but would be an invaluable connector and the first step towards linking the three routes in that vicinity. I’m honestly fine with whatever, as long as it isn’t a bloody heritage route.
I have to agree on heritage routes. I’ve never seen the attraction of pootling around at 25mph, whatever the traction. A great thing about simulators is the ability to recreate the past. Recreating a heritage route is recreating a recreation of the past (and a limited one at that). Why not just re-create the route when it was a working railway?
I disagree. WSR certainly has its charms. Although the speed limit is low and sometimes boring, the gradients keep you on your toes. You need to carefully manage throttle and brakes on WSR more than on any main line. Secondly, I find WSR more relaxing in its timetable, the whole atmosphere. There's just less hurry and less rush. Thirdly, the very heritage nature of such a route is that it allows a wide selection of rolling stock of different eras. Since these routes are most likely catering for tourist and organizing events once in a while, borrowing stock from other similar organizations. And, potentially, any rolling stock that comes with a heritage route could be used for railtour services on any modern route, given the trains are most likely equiped with modern safety systems. Although I'm not sure why DTG decided not to let any of the WSR stock benefit from this, as, as far as I know, all WSR locos and loco add-ons are excluded from substituting on all railtour services.
AFAIK the diesel engines still power the electric motors just like a diesel electric, so it would probably count as such.
Would like the Chiltern line, especially if it included London Victoria. I have to dampen down the hopes for 68s with Mk5s and cabcars though, think how many separate vehicles that would be to develop, there is a reason that cabcars are not always present e.g. the German one. I would love to see this consist in game but I think it would be a DTG product rather than a third party.
Anything with a 170 or a new sprinter and i'm happy. A bucket-load of potential for reuse across new routes due to their versatility and both good trains to drive. Perhaps (although unlikely thanks to Edinburgh - Glasgow) something to the end of Fife Circle? Or perhaps Wales?
I think Cumbrian Coast route with Class 156 Super Sprinter and re-liveried class 37's in service with Northern and/or DRS. Alternatively, the Settle and Carlisle had a period with Arriva Trains Northern where class 142/144/156/158 services ran alongside class 37 LHCS stock in 2004. It could also be done in the modern day with the Northern Class 158, and West Coast 37 or Jubilee steam locomotive on the Dalesman services and even class 66's too for freight. Wouldn't mind the West Highland Line either, but it seems less likely with a Scottish route already announced.
We might get the class 88 or 73, would be really cool having them for tsw. Just depends what route they are gonna make. Why not another ac