Wonder if it would be better to save that section for a backdated PRR route instead, not sure what the Pennsy had for local trains pre Penn Central, but it would have to be a better option than a modern one.
There is also new Carrollton in addition to bwi I’d love to see theee chunks ny Penn to Trenton with njt Trenton to Newark de with septa Newark de to dc with Marc I know there aren’t licenses but I’m hopeful someday it happens
According to another forum that I saw which is down below, not all Acela's stop at BWI but just a select few. https://www.amtraktrains.com/threads/acela-get-on-at-bwi-or-was.46929/
Just a little thing I noticed on SteamDB today: The development depots for the Acela (based on file size) and another unannounced DLC were updated at the same time. If the unannounced depot is the new US route, this could point to support/layers for the Acela Express being added.
It would make sense. Make it layer into both Boston Sprinter and the new route and then you have two times the chance to sell it!
When do you think the US route will be officially announced. I suspect end of February for an mid march release
Could the route be the northeast corridor New York to New Haven or new London Connecticut to New York with Connecticut shoreline east.
New York to New Haven is about 80 miles, probably a little too long for the current TSW parameter, though Cajon is 85, but that's a rural diesel route. NEC is urban and OHLE, with complex signaling. New London adds another 50 miles which is way beyond TSW's limit at the moment.
Trenton, NJ to Newark, DE can get a Reskinned ACS-64 Comet II-IVs SEPTA paint. ACS-64 901-915 SEPTA do count for Boston Attleboro Providence NEC route ACS-64 600-670 640 miles achievement.
From what I've read, it would be real empty since marc makes up most of the services but dtg are unable to get the license
Agreed. Baltimore- DC is the dullest part of the NEC with a handful of Amtrak services and few intermediate stops. Without MARC, the route would be even more sleep- inducing. TSC used unbranded MARC trains, but that's unlikely and would be inappropriate for TSW3.
PLEASE don't do DC-Baltimore, DTG. It's so boring, no MARC license, and you have that NJT license.... NYP-Trenton is the best candidate IMO.
I hear that. But, the MSTS version was Philly 30th St-DC, which would be a lot more interesting. Honestly if it weren't for the MARC and SEPTA licensing issue, that would be my NEC dream segment, but it is what it is. Just seems like not using the NJT license is a shame, and NYP-Newark airport is already built (in TSW2020 anyway).
That's why I deleted my post after some googling, I didn't remember it being a different part of the NEC. I still quietly hope for a remaster of the TSW2020 route, extended, with all the missing stock we don't have anymore.
Baltimore to dc has the same number of Amtrak trains as the rest of the nec with the exception of the clocker which only goes from ny Penn to Philly. The number of stops used by Amtrak is on par or more than the rest of the line past by Penn. Amtrak has two regular stops in jersey, one in pa, one in Delaware, three in maryland plus dc. note that’s not Acela stops which are less frequent. Amtrak including the Acela will have a small number of trains stopping in metropark or New Brunswick in nj too. mall that said it would certainly be better with Marc. From perrysville md to dc.
The difference though, is a NYC to Trenton line would include NJT trains that run on that part of the line plus AI trains from Hoboken to the other branch lines. So a TSW NEC route with Amtrak and NJT would be more livelier that a route from DC to Baltimore, which would only have Amtrak, and MAYBE some CSX traffic. Since DTG wont to unbranded MARC stuff for TSW.
Although I think the Clockers were taken oven by NJT and truncated to Trenton, they would still be present in that form. Also you may have forgotten about the Keystone services and whatever Pittsburgh service is currently running. In addition, I would say that all six NJ stations see frequent service, although less at Princeton Jct., New Brunswick, Metropark, and Newark Airport, but probably more than Newark DE or Aberdeen. My guess is that the CSAO freight services in NJ are more than what occurs in MD but I am not sure.
I was assuming the Harrisburg train would be included in the Amtrak services along with the silver trains the crescent cardinal etc. the pittsburgh train originates in Philly
For Keystone services they'd need to resurrect the cabcar DLC- which would be great since you could only ever drive them for a couple miles on NEC:NY.
Let's hope the new US route is NEC: New York - Washington, to make full use of the Acela and Northeast Regional with some NJT action down to Trenton and Philadelphia-30th street. I think the journey from New York to Washington, approximately 3 hours is possible as TSW routes have been increasing in route length
I think you're asking for too much. That's over 200 miles which is way too long. Close to 300 if you include to philly. Skw was only long cuz people demanded a really long high speed route where you can stretch your legs. Doesn't mean every route benefits from it. Route length also depends on scenery, complexity of the stations, number of stations, etc. Also gotta think about deadlines and all that
i would see an western US route; Pacific Surfliner would be a graet TSW3 route... All is so obsessed with New York routes...
Not going to be that. New route is going to be AC electric. Last time I checked, the Pacific Surfliner was a diesel service.
Very little. There may be a local freight or two doing industries. At least on jersey from Newark south. There is a yard south of Newark. No freight north of that. Not sure about freight south of Trenton. It’s not like most us routes such as dc to florida where Amtrak is using csx or ns trackage with shared rights. The nec is purely a passenger route owned by Amtrak where freight is a very small exception
I also believe a good chunk of freight in that area is all CSAO stuff as well, with as little there is to probably do, it's best to just have cars and locos sub in as scenery if someone owns SPG or HSC. (Since the CSAO borrows locos from both CSX and NS)
Editing this thread as to not ruin the surprise for others this weekend. Only 2 days to wait! (I'd respectfully ask that if you do know anything, to keep it to yourself, so as not to spoil the surprise.)
If they do NJT Route, i wonder which trainset they will include, cause there are many? Locomotive: ALP-46 or ALP-45DP Cab Car and Coaches: Comet or Multilevel coaches RailCar: Arrow III Railcars
If it was ny to trenton, what would be the length, service length and the timetable look like? Is it a busier route than Boston sprinter, quieter or about the same?