I think the issue is that Matt has more knowledge than others in the room, what irritates me is how you get a room of 3 people but only one person can actually drive & answer questions? I think it’s time JD learns how to drive, or as you say, introduce another person into the mix to do so.
1st the 385 front window was surprisingly limited when looking thru it,Heck you could most likely see better thru a porthole on a ship then that puny window.(Tunnel vision seems likely at some point) 2nd The moths where funny in the fact that this games now introducing bugs as a feature instead of a issue.(Yes i know there not the same but the word bugs is so associated with this game it's hard to not notice the double edge sword) 3rd The Trams A Look good (Very well modeled) B Runs nicely C Has seating inside But A You can't drive it B You can't ride in it C You can't even livery editor it. This is one great addition thats totally useless (Great job.) Yea i know it's only for show BUT it's done way to good for something you can do anything with. As for the big stations well at least now you can put that "miles walked" meter to good use.
I wish they invested more time/effort in getting the 385 sounds right/more real. Train sounds are for me one of the most important things contributing to the immersion. Matt said something about a patch in the future?
Thought it was a 1st day purchase but sadly not for me after hearing the train sounds. The train looks lovely and really well done as does the route. But the unit has some unique sound characteristics which are not recreated. Sounds are so important for immersion. Seems an own goal. However does look a great route and will see further thoughts with interest.
Matt’s poor driving did bring an interesting issue to the front though. An AI train seemingly ignoring a red signal and pulling into the station behind him.
Did they actually address the issue? I had one eye on the stream while working, next thing I heard was Matt saying something along the lines of let’s leave this here.
There was no issue, Matt had already passed a signal and the AI train would have pulled up to the station with a red shown.
I don’t remember seeing him pass a signal after going through the station. When he was reversing there was a signal behind him (which would have been in front of the station).
Just had a quick check of the preview, see 1hr 24mins 32secs into the stream. After passing the station he went through a green, so there was no problem with the AI arriving as per normal.
The new video "10 in 10" shows us that nighttime, at least in Edinburgh, will have building lite up nicely
Or maybe in fact let the companies that created the route drive it, because they know the in and out since they are the one created, which in this case would be Jasper
PC (Steam) is normally much later. 6pm UK I think. There hasn’t been a midnight release on console for a while.
Matt talked about how there are talks with scotrail but no plans make plans to go record. There's no guarantee it will actually be able to happen and come to the game. After all, up to scotrail and if they don't have time to lend rivet a 385 for a whole day, it wouldn't really be possible
I agree. The initial motor driver whine is there, but past 10-15 mph the sounds are completely removed from reality, which is a shame, especially in a unit with such poor noise insulation (you can hear every tiny thing when travelling on these). The most glaring one is the shift in the VVVF drive sound around 25 mph, where the real units go from a high-pitched whine to a low buzzing. It's extremely noticeable and characteristic of the Hitachi trains we have, and it's a shame to not get that in the sim
The whole point that RVG is missing sound from the official train so they try to make an arrangement with ScotRail to do but for now this is the deal!
Just seen on dad-rails stream some platforms don't have stop car markers and he picked up an error arriving at Waverley but the announcement thought it was haymarket when he used.
Station (no lighting) bug I've just seen is still present. I asked about this on stream Tuesday 3-4 times with other people
Against my better judgment I bought the route because I really like the idea of driving from Waverley to Glasgow and have tonnes of ideas for custom scenarios. I began by spawning inside Waverley (a station which I’m very familiar) and initially I was impressed. Then I began walking - the performance was a bit sluggish even on my Series X. I walked to the impressive waiting room and despite them modelling the other shops outside the inside of the waiting room was empty. In reality there’s a travel office - they could have at least textured the wall with that of a travel centre. The exit up to Princes Street is just missing. Not there. Would it have been a challenge to render a set of steps and escalators and block it with an invisible wall. Same goes for the other side, the exit isn’t there. The bridge to the side platforms is missing and no exit. As it stands the only entrance and exit to the station is the ramps which aren’t heavily used in real life. And then there’s the glowing sleepers in the tunnels exiting Waverley. Literally luminescent sleepers in the tunnel. This route desperately needed a lot more QA. I’ve uninstalled and asked for a refund.
Better wait until release for PC and test it by youre self! It's not the best way to look on a livestream! This is depending on so much settings! Exemple is the streamquality and the setup of the streamer!
What's the point of modeling a big detailed station if you leave half of the details and needed areas out.
I noticed this at Waverley. No travel centre in the big waiting room (couldn’t have at least put a texture on the correct wall?) Also walls where the main entrances are - There’s stairs/escalators up to Princes street, I don’t see why they couldn’t have added those and blocked them with an invisible wall. And a wall where the bridge is leading to Market Street/platforms 8 & 9 - again could have been modelled and blocked with an invisible wall. For all they bang on about accuracy etc they leave some glaring omissions. Also Edinburgh Waverley is a busy station but in game it’s a ghost town.
Looks like a rough start for xbox. I'm eagerly awaiting initial feedback for PC when it releases later today. Also a question for those already having a go, how are passengers on the route? Do they interact with your train (board/deboard) or does one drive empty trains?
I'm glad the trams are totally useless because if they had been i would have bought this route right away and god only know what a mess they could have been considering the other growing issues list.Dodged a HST there.
Just watched dadrail stream. Went from looking forward to buying it, to don't know if i should. Stop markers missing. The train sounds like a looping jet engine at full speed and like the RABe 523 sounds are mixed in there. No station announcements/lighting. Tms is broken anyway on xbox atm. Pax doors open while driving. Stream was fun to watch so many bugs. to quote dadrail on rivet routes: "Everything looks incredible, but nothing works" lol
Sorry, didn’t see this question. We’ve passed this on to Rivet (it’s likely that, because they were in development at the same time, the change wasn’t in the builds the Art team were using when the route was being built).
That’s kind of silly don’t you think? Look at how excitable the forum was when this route was announced, to how it is now since the preview and release. The DLC seems very undercooked.
I’m hearing Rivet left on ‘do not dispatch beyond current instruction’, which means to obtain a green signal, you have to close the doors on a red signal, to which it will then turn green after doing so… This is what the old TSW 2 routes used to do. There really does seem to be a communication and check list problem between Rivet and DTG it. How on earth are things like not using the latest TSW 3 functions not checked before release?!
Not meaning to get of topic but a TSW3 core update just popped up and it doesn't address what it for.
Well look on the bright side... As I alluded to in another thread hopefully we will get the BR Blue "rescue" alternative timetable pop up in a week or two, then wait until 60% off in the Easter Sale. Otherwise it can stay on the digital shelf and rot.
Dear oh dear Well for me this route quickly turned from "oh, look forward to this, nice new features too" to "Oh! Really! those basic TSW3 features missing and wrong ballast, wrong sounds with wrong OHLE, hmmmm, looks like I'll pick it up in 60%+ sale" and now to "Nah, think I'll deffo give this one a miss, even in a big sale, UNLESS there are major improvements"
All I know is that I went to start a job and everything in the cabin was locked, so when I went to get out of the seat I was catapulted onto the roof of Glasgow....
can I ask which platform you’re on please? If you pre-ordered on Steam, for some reason it seems to have split the release and there was a post-release patch available about 10 minutes after launch (not us). Can I check you’re on build 205, please?
DTG JD, my version of ScotRail was an automatic dl. How to I check the version number to see it is 205?
I would say if you have no update for the route queued or ready to download, you’re likely to be fine.
