Road Map Roadmap - February 2023

Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by DTG Alex, Feb 9, 2023.

  1. Jonne1184

    Jonne1184 Well-Known Member

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    The number is exactly two. Aren't you exaggerating a bit?
     
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  2. Dinosbacsi

    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    Cool, so more reskinned broken content sold as new once again.
     
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  3. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community Staff Member

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    Live stream is available to watch here, timestamped and all:

     
  4. theorganist

    theorganist Well-Known Member

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    They certainly acknowledged it at the time the route came out and myself and others commented on it. But I haven't heard any reference to it recently.

    Can you imagine how utterly immersion breaking watching a silent 8F hauling a heavy freight train on one the steep gradients will be!
     
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  5. Jpantera

    Jpantera Well-Known Member

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    Trains fly past almost silent, when your a passenger no thrash from engine. When waiting at stations no exhaust noise. Will put me off the new route unless fixed.
     
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  6. theorganist

    theorganist Well-Known Member

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    Well yes I agree if they don't fix it, it will be another reason not to purchase the new route, amongst the others. I have TSC for steam anyway. Thre are still some great locos from all the UK regions being produced for TSC and plenty of routes which have realistic start and end points.
     
  7. hiromaru

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    I agree, I think it's important for Rivet to take action to respond quickly. It is when even the smallest things take away from the immersion that it becomes a problem.
     
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  8. WVUadam

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    It appears it's delayed there other project. Which is gladly so as they should fix and update there content.
     
  9. CK95

    CK95 Well-Known Member

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    Now we just have to hope that fixing this route doesn’t mean the other gets less time.

    It’s becoming a chore now on TSW where we get a route release & then have to wait a month for it to get patched into an actual release ready state.
     
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  10. kobo

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    From a singular screenshot i saw, it seems like the NJT Multilevels are numbered incorrectly. They are supposed to be Numbered 70xx for cab cars, 72xx for bathroom cars, and 75xx for non bathroom cars. something tells me they didn't notice this or it's another glitch.
     
  11. Jeannot41

    Jeannot41 Well-Known Member

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    They are funny people. They're buying a buggy DLC from everywhere for a whopping price, and they're glad the maintainer is making a fix.
    Poor world....
     
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  12. nberneck99

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    I’m a bit concerned why we haven’t seen any screen shots of the NJ transit cab car yet, I’m worried we’ll have a repeat of the DB br 101 without a cab car. The NJT trains never run without the cab car unless it’s a rolling stock move to one of the maintenance facilities.
     
  13. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Well-Known Member

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    Been Looking forward to the Class 43 update, and glad the “00000” bug is getting fixed, are the liveries shown in the screenshots to be uploaded officially by DTG to CC or not?

    Glad Rivets picked up on a lot of the issues and not swept it to one side for an eternity. If it was delayed until the update and the announcement of the possible potential of real sounds, I doubt it would have received such a negative reception as it did.
     
  14. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Cab car was confirmed during the summit stream and during the roadmap.
     
  15. Scorpion71

    Scorpion71 Well-Known Member

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    I remember in a couple of roadmaps after the release of SOS (can't remember exactly which ones) Matt mentioned that the AI sounds had been fixed and was awaiting testing then release. Makes you wonder doesn't it!?!
     
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  16. Cramnor

    Cramnor Well-Known Member

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    So next week there will be ONE stream for THREE DLCs?! Remember the days when we got 3 streams for 1 DLC? I don’t appreciate this trend, less and less streams, it would be nice to have more previews with as empty as the schedule is…
     
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  17. max#2873

    max#2873 Well-Known Member

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    For some reasons ;) I focus mainly on core features and special projects of road maps, DTG made me very sensitive about improvements and requested fixing... For example I just want my purchased SOS start beeing playable... New routes can wait till then.
     
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  18. ottselmaster

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    Another month STILL no tsw2 update.
     
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  19. Dinosbacsi

    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    Do not worry, they are just waiting for a build and release slot. /s
     
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  20. ottselmaster

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    Havent they been saying that for like 4 months? ^^;
     
  21. Dinosbacsi

    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    More like a year, if not even longer.
     
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  22. Brendan Millea

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    I was wondering the same thing lol
     
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  23. grumypop51

    grumypop51 Well-Known Member

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    I'm beginning to think they are waiting for me to drop dead, then they'll release an update fixing most (not all, that would be too much), of my broken TSW2.:)
     
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  24. grumypop51

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    Okay, so I hear you both saying stuff about TSW2 Preservation Crew, but it sounds to me as if fixes will apply to TSW3 first.... still. Overlapping buffers are not only in SOS, they are throughout the game, from MSB, through to Tharandter Rampe freight, Aachen freight, NTP all have overlapping/clanking buffers. They are all well documented throughout these forums. Then there's the broken London Commuter 166 route where it is impossible to drive from Reigate to Gatwick due to no follow through signal on the red at Redhill. Contacting signaller does nothing and one can wait here for eternity, or until absolute boredom/frustration sets in and leave the entire game. Peninsula Corridor still can't get most trains through to San Jose due to derailing. Again,already well documented. I could go on, but really, what is the point? More frustration? Some of us are now so close to the end of our useful lives, we do not see any advantage to acquiring TSW3, as we once had a perfectly acceptable game, but now we are left with still some mighty scenery, nice looking rolling stock, locos, train sets etc..but a heck of a lot of frustration and dare I say, bitter disappointment? I've heard this "draw a line under it" line before, so I have very little faith in anything positive coming to my game before my death.
     
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  25. Dinosbacsi

    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    I assume it's some of the fixes that already released for TSW3? Things like the sound fixes, M3 alerter issues, etc?
     
  26. Conductor B

    Conductor B Well-Known Member

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    DTG JD Do you know if the Peninsula Corridor preservation crew updates are going to fix the timetable problems with the Bombardier bi-level cab car?
     
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  27. Juxen

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    Between New York - Trenton, NEC: New York, Harlem Line, and LIRR, I'm counting four electric routes based in New York. Add Boston Sprinter, a third route for the NEC. Meanwhile, we're sitting at (0) for Los Angeles, (0) for Chicago, and (0) for Kansas City, all places with tremendous potential.

    Just like how there's more to the UK than London, there is far more to the US than New York.
     
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  28. farLander#3643

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    Not JD but last month Matt said on the roadmap stream that this fix will be rolled out with the Peninsula Corridor/CN: Oakville preservation crew update. I've also wanted this fix for a while, so much so that I actually put in a ticket for it right around the turn of the year lol

    If you're desperate Matt also mentioned they still work if you spawn on foot and go to the service start location at the right time
     
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  29. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Dtg don't have those licenses so can't create those routes. The problem with the US is that licenses are very difficult to get or unable to be obtained at all
     
  30. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    It is. It's a ui issue
     
  31. GothicMatt

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    DTG Alex do you know when these updates will come out?
     
  32. max#2873

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    This is my main point of the roadmap Screenshot_20230211-184500_Chrome.jpg
     
  33. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    When it's ready. Unless you want rivet to rush an update out. Those are large amounts of fixes so just be patient
     
  34. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    They are also responsible for helping out 3rd parties join tsw and teach them the tools, tsw3 feature upgrades such as new lighting on older routes, etc. Their roles are numerous and growing
     
  35. Conductor B

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    Aha, that's good to know - thanks!

    Unfortunately this doesn't work for all the services. Some of the baby bullet services replace "regular" services while others are net new. The replacement ones aren't accessible via spawning, while others are. I estimate around half of the Bombardier cab car services are completely inaccessible.

    How about Tri Rail? They've already done it in TSC.
     
  36. Challenger3985

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    Which is unbranded, much like the other US commuters that are not licensed in TSC.
     
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  37. Blacknred81

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    LA has issues with Metrolink licensing
    Chicago has issues with Metra licensing
    Kansas City is plausible for Freight and Amtrak, but Grainger Heartland was such a bad route for TSC. So lazy that they didn't even make a new city skyline

    Realistically, the only place I can see DTG adding a new area that has passengers in the modern era is Amtrak California, for either the Capitol Corridor or San Joaquin Line. Surfliner has issues with the Metrolink or Coaster licensing.
     
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  38. PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix

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    I think they should make a major overhaul not small update, they should fix all the scenery and add more city vibes to it, that way it up to standard with at least the Harlem Line, also rework the ats system :mad::(:|
     
  39. PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix

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    i don't know why but i have a feeling that they are going to make another LIRR route this coming summer, that could be the reason why only small update for now. Another one could be more US Layer such the Metro North Connecticut Line- Red Line with the M8 because of the soon to be release NY-Trenton, also the Amtrak Acela, cause it would make sense why they are doing this. Slowly by slowly i believe they will start connecting the route together, and then eventually in the future merge all the route together. :o:D;)
     
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  40. Juxen

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    One of my constant gripes with this push towards the NEC/New York stuff is that the only Amtrak equipment in TSW is electric. Despite Amtrak having a presence on Cajon Pass, Cane Creek (technically), Horseshoe Curve, and Sand Patch, we still don't have any services with Superliner consists or even the regional trains. Considering how often DTG loves to reuse trainsets, I'm surprised we haven't seen a P42 and Superliner consist that gets reused on those four routes.

    Heck, at this point, I'd be content with some sort of Amtrak-focused route based on the Chicago yards and terminal. A quick glance indicates 55 Amtrak trains arriving and departing daily from Chicago. That's quite a lot of activity!
     
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  41. Blacknred81

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    Give how DTG seems to be alternating US routes between Passenger and freight, I don't see a new LIRR route till at least the end of this year.
     
  42. Challenger3985

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    Well, I'm not gonna get interested for the next US freight route at this point. Predicting that it might as well be another modern for which ever Class Is comes next in mind, with only ES44s and ACes for the Mainline Long Haul and GP38s or SD40s for switching because why not these days, and doesn't matter if they're layered or not.

    I may enjoy myself the next mountain route than anyone else, but even my taste for american freight is getting staled soon enough if there's nothing different or special from the last one, and I'm ain't talking about scenery either.
     
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  43. rennekton#1349

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    Dtg also have a mbta and now njt license so there's a possibility we'll see one of those routes being made
     
  44. aquapacific

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    Hope Linke Rheinstrecke will be set between 2000-2002early because BR 101 146 & 403 are already entered service, and Schnellfahrstrecke Frankfurt-Köln is still not open which means we can have the busiest service ever. So we can get 401 403 101 103 110 155 145 146 and as more as possible. To be short, it's a magical time that can have great performance in frequency and variety at the same time.
     
  45. Bertil Persson

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    The missing annonunce calls for Dumblane and similar shorter routes, and also when taking over a train from on foot, wan't mentioned in the stream. What about fixes here?
     
  46. cloudyskies21

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    According to the Spring Summit stream, the year of the route is 1997 - though would love an alternate timetable for all the rolling stock you mentioned though, that would be epic!
     
  47. solicitr

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    I would at least hold out hope for a vintage pre-Amtrak US route. DTG have deals with all four surviving Class 1s, which means all the fallen flags which they absorbed. And the F7 and SD40 are already in game, so they have two additional locos they could include in a 1960s route, as well as the Clinchfield freight cars. All they need are Budd or Pullman lightweight coaches.
     
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  48. Blacknred81

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    I mean, we were supposed to with the ATSF F7, but that didnt happen. DTG didnt even bother with the CRR stock for it.
     
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    True. :(
     
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  50. GothicMatt

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    I was actually only asking that was all, i wouldn't want Rivet to rush an update out with the large amount of fixes that need to be rectified
     

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