Route Linke Rheinstrecke - Feedback Thread

I just completed my first full run on the route with the 103 and it was very pleasing. Nice detailed scenery although it did seem more demanding on the PC than most routes but apart from the occasional stutter there were no real issues. Its worth bearing in mind that this was a scenario in the snow so a service in normal weather conditions may be less demanding. The 103 is fun to drive but took me a while to get used to the acceleration and braking after using the 110. The brakes on the 103 are more effective at stopping than those on the 110 but you can make a cup of tea in the time it takes them to fully release. Another solid route in my collection.

 

I usually wait until the first patch is released. By then the 10% game pass is usually on which is a bonus not to buy day 1 as well.

 

Agreed. Guess I'll stick with the 143 again.

 

This route release is a huge mess of bugs...

 

What are you're pc specs? And what is "worst"? How many FPS are we talking about?

 

Oh, well...
So, what's next? Niddertalbahn?

 

Oh hello, standard UE4 material. Didn't expect you to show up here.

 

IIf you stop below 500hz monitoring, this is restrictive so you have the switch flashing between 70 and 85. This is unfortunately not present, which is completely wrong. I can confirm that as a prospective train driver

 

At many stations the station names are missing, there is nothing on the signs attached. Budenheim is wrongly named in the game it is called Büdenheim.

 

Yes I know and had confirmed this already. He was not very clear in his writing what he have found bug related. And I have also more experience in a loco. Not to drive but I have make a view cabrides in my life in Germany as well... My dad was involved by the Eisenbahn in the Netherlands....and the borders not far away here...

 

Is there meant to be a SIFA audible alert on the 103? It's caught me out a couple of times now as I wasn't watching the HUD

 

Yea, that is from a 110, my bad. I don't have the route so can't send a picture but I had forgotten for a second

 

If you got Zs3v with number 3 or lower, the 500hz magnet is usually effective. The number 3 indicates a shortened entrance or the absence of a slipway.

 

Yes there is in reallife a sound when you didn't acknowledge the SIFA in 30 seconds....

 

Yea I think the breaks need a rework

 

What I am experiencing in-game is a penalty brake after around 10secs of the visual hud alert with no sound whatsoever

 

That's correct... Same approach as by a Hp0 500hz and reduce your speed to 25km/h....

 

On my 103 it works well but that's pc... I don't know which platform you use....

 

No problem my friendy you welcome. This thread is getting bomb so I saw it to late xD

 

If you drive in (Zugart O) 85 its from 65kmh to 45kmh unless you stop or drive really slow

 

PC as well. Not sure what the issue is then...

 

Yeah that's correct but if you run to a head track and you get a Zs3v with a "Ziffer 3" than you have to reduce to 25km/h and if you stay at 30km/h you get a "Zwangsbremsung".... Or i make a mistake.....

 

I think it has already been logged but there is a large chunk of river texture/map missing near the tunnels between Oberwesel and St Goar. I think Matt noticed it on the preview stream as he panned the camera back round briefly but nobody else did at the time and it wasn't mentioned.

 

What is wrong with the brakes? I wish to be enlightened.

 

Yes, that's authentic. 500s can be installed to protect speed drops to 30 or lower. There's one at Hagen also.

 

I also notice on the DB 103 the KN gauge in the hud doesn't marry up with the KN gauge in the cab. It does on other German locos.
Fantastic route though.

 

vehicles driving pass the level crossing even though the gates are down...

 

Has anyone tried the PIS on the n-Wagen cab car yet? Does it 'forget' its destination like the BRO one or has it better memory?

 

One thing i noticed is that the front and marker lights not working on the BR 103 in Scenarios from the Editor

 

The track is really nicely designed, it's fun to drive! Thanks DTG.

What I notice negatively, however, is that the FPS always drops extremely when a 103 with an IC car approaches (although I usually have 60 FPS all the time). That would have to be fixed, otherwise the performance is quite good.

And then another fun detail:



MB Citaro facelift buses in the 1990s? Ooookay.

But here is a beauty in oriental red:

 

Kind reminder that it's been quarter of a year for BRO, the signalling is still atrocious to borderline unplayable for anything but simple straight A to B service, KaKo dashboard is still see-through to trackbed at some points and lots and lots of other previously unthinkable bugs with no fixing announced.

 

still does

 

You can brake from 160km/h to a full stop within an extreme short range (only a few hundred meters), which is very unrealistic.Drive the 101 or ICE for comparsion.

The 110 with nWagen on BRO is the same. DTG already said it is a bug but it never got fixed completely. So the same bug now appears at this route with 110 and 103 as well.

The problem is that we have now a broken 110 at Bremen, a second broken 110 at Koblenz. So what will happen? Same as with the 143 (never fully fixed, still sound problems without mods. Sound was beautiful in the oritignal TSW)?
Will their be some day in the future one release with one route that will work and we will have 5 or 6 different versions of the same locomotive with minor changes again? Why not get rid of all of these problems now with TSW3 and already have fixed the 110 problems at BRO and now have a good loco for release of the second route with it? I really don't get it.

 

Meh, hopefully something for logging for BRO as well? JD? Alex? Anyone?

I mean the IRL ones weren't working properly as well most of the time or were practically unreadable (at least as far as I can remember) but that level of realism is a bit too much

 

Here at this specific point i have to be fair to dtg, the past configurations of locomotives & trains in general can be a life mission for it self.

For routes representing todays era i would say no excuse for those kind of "mistakes", but mainz koblenz is 30 years back.

Manytimes rolling stock have changes, which cant be found on wikipedia etc. Today with good CADs and pdfs every big change & construction is digital on a document and its really way less difficult to keep track.

Its really easy to say now dtg should do better research, but the truth research about a past era is immense time consuming.

 

In this blackness, there is a medi-kit hidden and a coo-coo clock, too

 

dashboard doesnt not light up.

 

On the one hand, you're right.

But: If I want to place a route and the right locomotives in the 1990s, the first step would be to look for pictures from that time! This step alone would have been enough to establish that. Or am I wrong?

Obviously, however, "factory photos" of the BR103 were looked at or really old photos. The developers only build what they are given, I know, and they probably just got very old pictures that didn't come from the 1990s.

But in the end I can live with that.

 

Overall, pretty happy. As others have pointed out braking behaviour is a bit weird.

I also had a weird routing on IC 822 Nürnberg - Dortmund [Steigerwald]. At some point, I believe at Gau-Algesheim I got redirected onto the opposite track and than back on the main track again, without warning, causing me to hit 40km/h points at 160 km/h.

 

Hopefully it can be of use. I feel like with a bit more polishing and fixing here and there this route can be absolutely great!

 

As we move more into the past, there will be more and more space for "creative freedom", details of track layout may become unavailable or only partially recoverable from photos etc. But if you show something on a pixelated stream and 25 people will immediately point out obvious baseline mistakes, then you did your research wrong. If the knowledge is widely available, why did you not ask people before? It's not always great to hide things for surprise if you cannot do it on your own.

Another option is simply to ask elsewhere or incognito. Surely there is a lot of german forums outside of simulators where if you ask for pics of consists in particular year in particular location, you will get dozens immediately. Or simply make a proper beta programme that people can sign into as most other mature developers do.

The people who point out bugs on forums or make community content are usually passionate enough to be willing to help you. If you invite them for some free play time before release, you will not make them less keen to pay you for the finished product, you will make them more keen instead.

 

A lot of these bugs, such as the black textures, the missing and misspelled place names, and most of all the missing Rhine texture, are very obvious. They can’t have been missed by your QA department, right? Or even during the live stream last week, when no one mentioned them even though they were plainly visible.

Are they not considered as showstoppers then?

I’m buying the dlc as soon as the Game Pass discount hits, but it would be lovely to know for sure that these bugs will be fixed, because it’s such a shame if it remains this flawed

 

However, I do have to add, there is an issue with the BR 110 in livery designer for me. I'm unable to place shapes further down than about halfway down the locomotive, which makes liveries very very difficult (or actually impossible)

 

To be honest I did think the 103 brakes are quite powerful but I thought they had fixed the 110.

 

Powerful, yes for sure! But not miracle powerful like throwing an anchor ;-)

 

Not my video but the signal sequence approaching Mainz is a horror.

Entry at Mainz Hp1 and Vr1 for a 40 crossover, followed by another Hp1 then a Zws Hp0+ Sh1. So full greens towards a 40 crossover, then a green before a red.



1hr 12 mins into vid if the link stripped the time stamp.

 

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In all cases I Had in real Life, 30kmh worked fine

 

Thanks for posting this, this is an absolute buy stopper for me.

 

Okay thanks for you're explanation!