Took a picture from the dovetail live article about Xbox Starter Packs on Sale Of those, I already own Germany KWG UK WCML Liverpool-Crewe Steam era Cajon Pass and SEH from the deluxe edition sale. My question is which one should I go for next NEC Trenton New Brunswick NY Penn or Birmingham Cross City Line which is on Sale? Does anyone know which one is better NEC NY or BCC? Based on those answers I will then go for the route that is on Sale
Despite its well- documented shortcomings, I would opt for NYT. BCC is a well- modeled route ( mostly ), but it's a one train A to B, impossible to drive after dark and does not wear well. For all its flaws, NYT is a mixture of high- speed and stopping services with yard movements and decent night lighting. Buy the Acela to go along with it,
I had to go see the sale for myself in the xbox store. Got a chuckle when I saw every one of these starter packs shows up as a 1 out of 5 star review. Bravo DTG. That takes some kind of talent to be this bad.
Thank you for the information and if one were to play Northeast Corridor Trenton New Brunswick New York Penn Station during the night time does it have better lighting than Birmingham Cross City
I really am not keen on slow stop startie stuff in game or in real life but BCC is a brilliant route which I do enjoy a little drive on in the evening and the 323 is also a brilliant unit up there with the BR diesels for quality. I haven't played the route at night so it wouldn't be fair for me to comment on the night lighting but I personally find the lighting from dawn to dust is spectacular. Again haven't got the other route so can't comment on it.
I would go for BCC, the route is well modelled and the train is well modelled. It also feels like a complete route, which it is with quite a variety of services. Yes there is only one train but it is the train which runs this route, yes there could be some AI traffic between New Street and Barnt Green and Bromsgrove but you don't really miss much, there are plenty of cross city services to make the route feel busy. At least it has a comprehensive timetable unlike the Trenton route.
Well, that just indicates that the hater trolls have been out review-bombing. No way any of those bundles deserves one star considering what's in them.
Spot on and between NEC Trenton New Brunswick NY Penn or Birmingham Cross City Line which one will you recommend for me to purchase?
I have read of people saying they have bought DLC just so they can negatively review it! I never read reviews anywhere as there is so much bias. Some of these ego boosting youtube "review" videos are maddening. I just do my own research and watch streams and make a decision that way. I have bought routes which have had terrible reviews and enjoyed them and vice versa.
I purchased NY Penn to Trenton in the sale for PS5, from all the negative reviews I was expecting this route to be LOVE but I found myself enjoying it. The route could do with more services and the Pantograph on AI Trains need fixing but other than that the route is ok and you have plenty of Trains to drive unlike Birmingham Cross City.
For me Birmingham Cross City more nice. If you like many passenger stops and good quality train then BCC. Trenton was not my cup of tea at all. Feels like driving in ghost town, absolutely nothing to see there. But thats my opinion
The Xbox store reviews are awful and shouldn't be used to judge whether dlc is worth buying or not imo. Most of them are from angry day 1 buyers. Forum feedback threads and I suspect steam (not 100% sure on that) reviews are much more representative of the actual route.
Well if you think definition of ghost town as other passing trains then yes. I meant scenery and view. BBC offers lots of life around, when on NY route all you see is railroad in front of you. As I mentioned above, it’s just my opinion and I totally respect if you don’t agree
I picked up Trenton in the sale after debating between that and Birmingham, I ultimately went with Trenton as I already picked up the Acela just after launch and wanted more places to use it, Trenton will provide more variety than Birmingham but isn’t short on issues, unfortunately due a trend of quick releases of routes and with that bugs, it’s still yet to receive fixes for several obvious things including (ALP-46 Ai don’t use passenger lights during day (I think they’re to dim you can’t see them in day) and the Ai for ALP-46 don’t use tailights)
Maybe they think 1 star means 1st place? As a born and bred Brummie (Birmingham (UK) born) I still have yet to purchase BCC. Sadly I was put off by the night lighting, and the emptiness of New Street. I will buy it, if and when it's in a 50% or 40% sale in the MS Store/Gamepass sale. Which I hope it happens soon?
You are only in New Street for a short period. I agree it is a bit too quiet there, although quite what people think the solution is to that without adding unrealistic trains is? Maybe some 323's going off to Walsall or working to Wolverhampton might have added more. The rest of the route feels busy, the service on the timetable is frequent. The route is one of the best quality DTG routes, no clipping of trains through pillars that I have noticed and the train is well modelled down to the sounds. Trenton's timetable is just too compromised for me to be interested in that route as it stands.
Regarding New Street, I think AI traffic is key to making it feel more busy. With the 158 coming with MML, I think DTG should consider AI-only 158s to represent Transport for Wales services from the station - though, if for licensing reasons, I wouldn't mind if they were unbranded. Same goes for if the Turbostar ever came to TSW, again would love such added to the timetable too to represent Cross Country services etc. Regarding the Cross City route, I know many people, including myself, wanted to see New Street in TSW, but I really wished DTG could of waited longer before including Britain's busiest station outside London until more suitable rolling stock existed in-game. It totally ruins the immersion of New Street with just the 323 and thus am not interested in the route at this time.
Birmingham absolutely needs a timetable rework once we've got more appropriate rolling stock. But outside of New Street's flaws, it's pretty decent, even if it has some scenery flaws. NY-Trenton I just don't think I can be bothered with in this state, and not just because Penn has all the flaws of New Street and more. Even at £22.
Thank you for telling me about that but which one is the better option Northeast Corridor New York Trenton or Birmingham Cross City Line which is really Birmingham New Street to Worcester via Bromsgrove
I absolutely voted Birmingham. While New Street disappoints, it's overall just one empty station halfway down the route, that you spend a couple of minutes of every run in, tops. And it's not a bad route, with an additional branch, something very much missed on the simpler A-B routes (Sorry Niddertalbahn, you're almost perfect but that's one of your inherent flaws too) a nice new EMU, and at least some services for other stuff (YMMV unless you have stuff like the RHTT and GWE). And for all that's wrong with it, I've not had rolling stock blatantly clipping through the scenery at New Street. So while both stations may be far too quiet to be believable, Penn is the clear loser there. There are issues with some scenery like the missing fences, but the Birmingham route as a whole is worth getting, as the ratio of the poll results might suggest.
Got it then and for BCC in terms of Timetable is it better than NEC Trenton New Brunswick RWJ Rutgers University NY Penn Route because I want a route that is on sale and busy? From the NEC NY Forum thread, Timetable doesn't include RVL Morris & Essex Line Montclair Boonton Line NY Penn Trips and Amtrak Long distance services
Spot on and based on the poll and replies I went for BCC. NEC Trenton New Brunswick NY Penn still has issues with that post having 33 pages as of now. This is page 28 of the NEC NYC complaint thread Picture is my BCC Purchase
driverwoods#1787 What's your verdict of this route and the 323? I'm considering getting this as there seems to be quite a lot of good feedback from this thread.
I really like it and for autumn (US Fall) RHTT tends to get stuck behind the 323 since 323 has a priority over RHTT depending on the hour
You wouldn't know how many RHTT services are on BCC as I am considering buying that but wondered how well used it is on other routes like BCC.
Speaking of RHTT you only play them during the autumn months I can send you the picture of the timetable that has it later
Yes that would make sense as Autumn is leaf fall season. If you could send a picture that would be sweet thanks mate.
The route is OK, neither bad nor exceptional (although PC mods help the scenery at the south end). But the 323 is absolutely outstanding, one of the best trains in TSW.
IIRC you can play RHTT any time of the year, but it will only appear as AI in autumn. Same for all the other seasonal services.
When are we going to get a decent full sale on xbox. Playstation seem to have plenty of sales including their current spring sale until April 26th, but nothing for xbox apart from a starter pack.
