Here is a poll on who likes the 2 - 3 second #8 Drive-By-View in Train Sim World 3. I seriously dislike it. It happens so fast you can't enjoy it at all. I would prefer a 20 - 30 second #8 Drive-By-View like we have in Train Simulator Classic. In fact, I dislike the #8 Drive-By-View so much (that, and the inability to zoom out very far on the #2 Follow camera), I've stopped playing Train Sim World 3 entirely. While I own about 50% of the DLC for TSW3, I haven't played it in 4 or 5 months, and I have no plans to ever play it again or buy any more DLC for it until there is at least an option in the settings to select a 20 - 30 second #8 Drive-By-View like we have in Train Simulator Classic. Please vote and share your thoughts below. *Your vote is confidential, and your User Name will not be displayed.
I think the 4 camera from tsc is what you are talking about. Currently, the number isn't mapped to anything by itself. The 8 key should stay the same. I still think quitting tsw over a camera is kinda extreme, but I can't change your mind.
Yeah, the #4 Camera in TSC is the drive by camera. But in TSW3 the #8 Camera is the drive by camera. At least it used to be. In any case, I'm talking about the drive by camera in TSW3, which lasts only 2 to 3 seconds. That, and the inability to zoom out very far on the # 2 "Follow" camera did it for me. I feel like Dovetail is trying to make TSW3 "Forza - Train" and that's not for me.
28 views, and no opinions either way? Ok, I just changed the poll to a secret ballot. Nobody can see how you voted.
It's really odd they haven't been able to do the trackside following camera in six years now. That could mean it's not possible at all.
"I hear that train a-comin', it's rolling 'round the bend" - Johnny Cash "Folsom Prison Blues" Not in TSW3...lol
I use the 8 cam more than any other to look at and look for things. I don't want to be locked to the train. In fact, id go so far to say I'd like the 8 cam on foot too rather than needing to be sat in a train.
Not really. 8 is the free camera. There is no 4 drive-by camera like in MSTS/OR. I’ve never played TSC, so don’t know about that. Therefore, I think it’d be better to suggest adding the 4 camera rather than messing with the 8 one.
I use the 8 camera view when needed 1 camera is drivers 2 camera front when PC keyboard is plugged to the console. I only use this when I play German and future Austrian routes due to PZB Sifa
I could go for that. The 8 camera starts out in the drive by view position if I remember correctly. So that's why I'm picking on it...lol But adding a TSC style #4 camera would be an even better solution if folks have other uses for the 8 camera.
I agree. It's function as a drive by camera is problematic, it spawns almost always between the trees and it's too close to the train. Even Matt acknowledged it in the MML stream that it's too slow if you want to place it in front of the train. Right now it's useful only if you want to use it as a free cam.
I believe this is a so trivial it's basically a non-issue. If you want a longer flypast, use the put the freecam (that's what it's for!) somewhere else further down the line. I do it all the time and I have no issue with it. I personally dislike the TSC flypast camera as it locks onto the train from the overhead most of the time, and moves the camera in a very awkward way.
The 8 cam in TSW does the same as the 8 cam in TSC. There is no 4 cam yet in TSW because I seriously dislike its behaviour in TSC. I have a design for a better implementation, just needs some time allocating to get it done, I have no date yet for when that will happen. Matt.
Niether of the options are which Id prefer. For me the 8 cam should move automatically once your train has passed and find another point ahead of the train to catch it passing again, repeat and rinse.
the 8 camera is a completely free camera and should be unrelated to the train. What you're looking for is a "good" 4 camera, which tracks the train down the track but does so in a way that is good Maybe with the option to leave pivoting the camera up to you rather than focus-following it etc.
Interesting topic. I didn't realise that the absence of a good drive-by camera was an actual concern, but now I have to agree. The 8 camera does indeed "happen" too fast.
Seriously dislike? How come? I love using the automatic trackside view, especially on long US freight routes, climbing a hill in notch 8 with nothing to do but to enjoy the scenery from that cam. Watching it in the distance, zooming in and coming up to you is very cinematic, especially on Cajon or Tehachapi Pass.
The 8 cam is not a drive by cam, it only works like that because when you hit the 8 key it puts your camera in front of the train and is the only camera not locked to your train, moving at the same speed. I always welcome more camera options but I think the functionality of the 8 cam is great as it is.
It would be, if you could press the Pause key as in TSC without the menu coming up to reposition the cam. The "8" cam is never in a good position for a screenshot, as the train already passed by as soon as you hit that 8 key.
I think there's a misconception. Kodiac, you shouldn't compare a free cam (8) to the automatic trackside following cam (4). You should've asked if anyone is missing the 4 cam. The other way round, the 3 camera is something I'm missing in TSC (though not as vital as in TSW, where I need it to simulate the banking comm on some Clinchfield services, applying power on the banking loco manually through the window....)
The boom camera, on 2, is the same as the one in TSC - or do you mean the floating follow camera on 3 in TSW? Which is indeed missing on TSC (and one of my most used cameras on TSW )
Yeah there's a lot they could do with the camera, here are a few of my suggestions: A better solution for the sprint camera not being able to keep up with high speed trains. A suggestion could be to make the camera sprint speed relative to the current speed of your train. More complex and customization for camera controls. I want to be able to do the slow pans, smooth tilts that I see the DTG team using during trailers and such. They certainly don't do it that smooth during livestreams. Right now I'm not sure you can change the camera height independently except using a gamepad in classic control scheme & camera mode. Correct me if I'm wrong Passenger carriage view. Right now, trying to get a view inside the carriage in motion is pretty janky. If you manage to get in there, you could get popped out pretty easily if you move to close to the side. It would probably be a bit challenging but it would be cool if there was a camera where I could control an invisible person inside the carriage, take any seat I like or walk the length of the train while I'm still actually in the drivers seat controlling the train. Optional effects to add to the camera like camera shake, tilt shift, and other common game filters like sepia tone or film grain would offer a new way to view the world.
Our video editing team make *extensive* use of the xbox controller when recording footage. You can change the camera height in new controls using the camera shift and triggers. Matt.
I haven't played with a controller on TSW for a long time, is it possible to speed up the camera now? I remember when the immersion control scheme was introduced in TSW2 it couldn't be done.
Seems like adding a "good" drive-by cam is the best solution. I wouldn't want the free cam to disappear. Personally i don't really get the appeal of the "boom cameras", especially since the fixed front and back cams are easily repositioned. Maybe one of those could lose it's place to a drive-by cam on the controller setup (or just let us rebind controls, pretty please for the 100th time lol)?
Absolutely agree with Torfmeister! The 4 camera in TSC is my second favorite camera after the 2 camera. The 4 camera in TSC produces fantastic cinematic drive by views. I'm not crazy about it when it's centered over the track and the train comes straight at you. But when the 4 camera is off to either side of the track, the drive by is superb! And I wouldn't want to have to pan it manually to follow the train. I like it the way it is with the smooth automatic panning.
DTG Matt While we're talking cameras, is there a reason that the 2 Camera can't be zoomed out further in TSW3? Like twice as far. Could the "range" of camera zoom be increased to twice what it is now? You could leave the default starting position for the 2 Camera where it is for the up close excitement that TSW3 seems to be all about, but also allow us to zoom out much further for those who like a more panoramic view like we can achieve in TSC using the mouse wheel and arrow keys to zoom out to the "model train" view? Right now, and I may be the only one who feels this way, but in TSW3 I'm getting way too much train and not enough scenery. And the scenery in TSW3 is beautiful and I would think should support zooming out much further with the 2 Camera than we can now. Please. Pretty please with sugar on it!
Yeah I don't think there is a way to do it with the controller alone. You will need to use a Bluetooth keyboard connected to your PlayStation or use Remote Play on your PC, and use your PC keyboard. Using the shift key will work in conjunction with the controller (or arrow keys).
Even with the shift key you can't go faster than about 100 mph - so once you're on a high speed train you just can't keep up at all. Matt.
As an Xbox player, I agree that there is a need for a "drive by" or 4 cam. It was great fun to use when we did have it "back in the day." So, hopefully it can be fixed up and released. The "free" or 8 cam is also much too slow, as I think is well-recognized. Not a deal breaker for me, but does represent something that we once had, but now have to do without.
Speaking of camera's, having a higher FOV and being able to pull the 2 camera out a bit farther would be nice. I fully agree we need a good 4 camera
