The (1st) Just Trains Route: Preston - Blackpool And Omskirk

I think they just mean in terms of detailing / scenery, the track and signalling was done by the April roadmap.

(Speaking of which, it took them about a month to do just short of half the route's scenery. Summer release, anyone?)

 

That's what I was thinking as also with the possibility it could be the Met. You need to extend scenery a mile or two at the end of each terminating point (unless it's underground or in a deep cutting) to make things look plausible.

Anyhow regardless of whether it's Edinburgh - Dundee, the Blackpool branches, Wherry, the Met or a complete curve ball no one predicted, I am quite looking forward to getting hold of this.

 

Class 26 done and class 20 to do, Edinburgh to Dundee with Thornton Yard and Methil branch.....

 

The met rules itself out by being electric, unfortunately.

 

That is only 30 miles.

 

Reading carefully, they refer to 20 plus 26 miles of SCENERY as opposed to track. This gives 46 miles of end to end distance.

 

Was that the slightest hint of a Pacer in the text. Would fit with Preston to Blackpool North and South in the mid 1980s. Distance comes in a little short (around 16 miles). Depending on how much you read between the lines.

 

There were also the Blackpool Central & Fleetwood lines back then.

 

Except that this destroys my theory of a Pacer as both were long gone before the introduction in 1984/5.

 

I have a feeling the "exciting new train" included with the route might be a Class 121/122 bubble car. Something distinctive and fairly simple to build for their first route. They were also commonly seen on many rural routes during the time period the route is set. Either that or another diesel electric locomotive such as a Class 50. Probably reusing the 37, 47 or 101 as the second train.

 

I am still wondering on Edinburgh to Dundee, not sure what that would give us train wise though.

 

Well Dundee and Haymarket had plenty of class 101's. The class 40 and 47 would fit in. This is assuming there isn't a new train/

 

26s did not really work from Edinburgh to Dundee it was 101s then 27s.

 

With no one else claiming Preston to Blackpool as their project, I keep coming back to it as I have no other explanation for its leak.

 

They did on coal traffic. 47s and DMUs for the passenger or a 40 too would be prototypical as would a 150/2.

Also 26s worked on the Fife circle in on peak extras certain years. I could be wrong but the 26 mile comment caught my eye. Also just trains have already done this route in TSC so would have a lot of research. Its also an iconic route which the sim badly needs to boost its profile especially after a lack lustre Glasgow to Edinburgh. Forth Bridge is a big piece of eye candy....

 

26 is my guess as those numbers are mentioned maybe as a clue.....20 is the other one and the 101 as the dmu.

 

Unless it was/ is a red herring.

Or now we know about the Northern License, it could be a very early in planning route

 

I believe they might've got rid of the Preston to Blackpool route due to the leaks. As it might've been what just trains were making until the leaks causing them to change it.

 

There’s no way they would’ve gotten rid of the route due to leaks. First, the leak managed to stay pretty low-key, I guess maybe a few hundred people have any idea at most. Secondly, they wouldn’t be able to discard all the work (and financial investment) as a small developer. Thirdly, perhaps the leak wasn’t that bad as it gave the developers a nice insight into the community “vibe” on the route very early in development.

 

Fourthly, if Dovetail cancelled things because they were leaked we wouldn't have...
*Inhales*

• Rush Hour
• Train Sim World 3
• Sparks feature
• Niddertalbahn
• Literally everything announced in the 2023 spring summit, those being:
  • Peak Forest Railway
  • Niddertalbahn (Again!)
  • Linke Rheinstrecke
  • TramSim Console
  • Midland Mainline
  • etc
• Class 700/0
• ROG 37
• Railbow DLC

And so forth.

 

I suspect “26” is a red herring. The logical home for a Class 26 would be Inverness but none of the routes gives a logical end point at 46 miles. Unless of course it was something quirky like Aviemore to Dingwall. But for the Kyle Line you’d be ending at Achnasheen, Far North somewhere around Tain (a possibility I suppose) or going south maybe Kingussie. The 26’s weren’t that common on the Aberdeen line, it was either Cross Country DMU’s then Class 27 or even 47 loco hauled before Sprinters took over.

 

I think people are reading into it too much, it might just genuinely be that 26 miles of route have been done.

Maybe they've dropped a hit, or maybe they haven't.

 

Once the 37s took the Inverness work they came south a lot more and the 26/0s worked off Millerhill pretty much all their career until 1990. I'm intrigued by this dlc despite having TSW uninstalled and no other inclination to put it back. TSW badly needs some UK BR era stuff. The latest route to appeal to the Modern dynamic railway fans with the 323 I would have to be paid to have....

 

I would also wonder if the Kyle line is a longer term JT TSW route and they can start filling the stable with a smaller route.....

 

I must admit I hadn't read any clues into the figures 26 and 20, they had stated before they had laid about 40 miles of track so presumably that would be another hint! That would make a nice Scottish region route with a 20, 26 and 40 and certainly one set in the 70's I would have thought. But I am certain it won't be that.

I still think somehow it is Preston to Blackpool with maybe some extra track or something. It fits in with some of their developers experiences and TSC development too.

 

I suppose it could be something like Bolton to Blackpool, not inconceivable given Ambergate to Chinley.
As regards the 26’s I suppose at the outside it could be something Ayrshire coal field as the Class 20’s could be seen there too, but a little specialised for a first mainstream project.

 

They do state 26 miles of scenery done with 20 miles to go if you read it as printed.

 

How about Barnstaple to Exeter or Ipswich to Lowestoft? Either of those would fit with old BR dmu’s

 

Routes I would love to see:

West Coast over Shap (same as TSC)
GEML London Ipswich with Ipswich included and Class 90/91 etc same as TSC

New US "tri" route
South Elgin to Byron and Rockford

Maybe a few US ports too like the Donner Pass and the Western Pacific route with logging....

Wonder if there are any high speed US freight routes in Texas/Arkansas/Oklahoma region?

 

91s never worked out of Liverpool street they have only ever worked out Kings Cross.

 

The Just Trains Route will not be a US route, it will be a UK Route.

Also, said UK route will not be an electric route, so WCML Over Shap and GEML are ruled out.

 

But a US route will be announced in July.

 

So Class 90s??

 

diesel electric trains not electric trains for this route that one's been announced

 

And I'm guessing your source for that one is Bugs Bunny, yeah?

 

90s did work out of Liverpool St.

 

I hope it’s somewhere in Derbyshire. Derbyshire’s been poorly served in TSW3

 

I presume that's a tongue in cheek remark?!

 

Indeed.
Also, your username wouldn't happen to be a reference to the Mighty Arbroath FC, would it?

 

Could be Ambergate to Chinley via the Hope Valley...

 

Indeed it does. Best part time team in Scotland I'll have you know.

Impressed with your knowledge.

 

This end to end service? Mid/late 80s Pacer route.

 

We ain't beat Arbroath since they came up. Solid wee team, tbf.

(Certainly not the best part time team though, I hear the Rangers only turn up now and again )

 

Possible, although I would okagienbthe leak that suggests Preston - Blackpool may have reflected that.

Then again, nothing's impossible.
(And yes, it would be an end-to-end service on both lines, most services terminating at Preston in the middle.)

 

Off the top of my head, you must be Morton?!

 

Aye, spot on.

 

Actually, that's not such a silly idea. I'm sure you know that Just Trains are developing a present day Buxton and Peak Forest extension to MML in TSC. Of course, it can only be the section from Buxton through Great Rocks, Peak Forest and Chinley. However, apart from Peak Forest station, nothing much has changed, asset wise, including the semaphore signalling. And, if set in the 1990s, the ICI bogie hoppers were still being used with class 20s and class 37s.

But, I'm dreaming, of course ...

 

Neither would we have DTG JD

 

Next week live stream post hints at a new DLC announcement on Thursday. Could we finally be finding the answer to our questions?

 

It's not a dlc announcement. There isn't anything coming soon at the moment. They're still deciding but it doesn't feel like a dlc announcement