Anyone Here Going To The Coronation Of King Charles Iii

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  1. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Recently I was watching CNN and MSNBC news programmes and they were talking about the coronation of King Charles III Saturday 6th May 2023. My question is this is anyone in the train simulator Community going to the coronation tomorrow?
     
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    I'm not and probably won't watch it either. Nothing against the monarchy or anything, but when it is happening I will be asleep and then getting ready for work that night.

    Will probably try and see something given the historical context.
     
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    Get it now for us in the EST timezone routes NEC Trenton to Boston via NYC Providence, RI SPG LIRR Harlem Line HSC and Oakville Subdivision TV coverage starts at 5 am which means NTP TVL WCL EDN BKL SEHS WCML Liverpool to Crewe Peak Rail and Woodhead Line GMT 10 am.
     
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  4. TheCadManFan

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    I’m going to watch it on tv. I am not a royalist, I don’t buy dinner plates with their faces on, but it’s a historic event, a new chapter in our history.
     
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  5. tft#6439

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    No but I'm watching it right now.
     
  6. trainsimplayer

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    To quote my friends in the stands at our season-ending football game last night:

    "You can shove your coronation..."
     
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  7. Princess Entrapta

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    Nah, like everyone I've ever known under the age of 80 (Understandable, that generation remember his mother's coronation, and for my grandparents' generation she was their age when she became queen, and she was the first queen after TV was invented, so a parasocial relationship was an understandable consequence), I'm a staunch republican. I'll be doing all the usual stuff I do on a weekend. The extra bank holiday's not bad for folks though.
     
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    Oh... Oh my....
     
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    Problem?
     
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    Up where the sun doesn't shine
     
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    Lol
     
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    Enjoy your festival of madness.

    Could I interest you in a coronation mug? FraEhZQXgAAsEJG.jpg
     
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    I need one, *slams debit card on table*
     
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    Just answering the OP's question on behalf of the city of Edinburgh...

    (This is the official 'big screen' showing that has been promoted endlessly) 20230506_104159.jpg.5bda062cf759eb4b687b992278d0dfa5.jpg
     
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    So I assume neither you nor your friends will be partaking in the bank holiday on Monday either?
     
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    I most probably wouldn’t be travelling to the opposite end of the country (half way down the island) for it anyways.

    But as it is a religious event rather than a pure monarchy event or National, I’ve decided to not watch it, that’s my view, I never participate in any such events.

    I don’t really have strong Monarchy or Republic views either way to be fair though.
     
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    I was willing to work it, but work have decided to close for the day (it was 50/50 as to if we'd be open) - I had to work the Queen's funeral and the overtime was very worth it.

    Personally not bothered by the whole thing, some of the Royalists are a bit weird with the camping out or the whole Queue last year.
     
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    I like the royal family (well, except for two or three of them) but I spent my morning watching Top Gear instead.
     
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    I personally am on study leave that started last month and ends in June, so the bank holiday has zero impact on my plans.

    Thanks for asking.
     
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    Not in London wathing it as I think you'd have to be barmy to sleep on the street there waiting over night but I certainly watched it on my tele as I missed the last one by only a few years and didn't fancy missing this one. Sad about the flyover as the WW2 era planes are the ones I am most interested in.
     
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    Was really hoping when the band was escorting King Jugs from the palace to the abbey that someone would just open their window and go "Oi! I'm on the Nightshift!"

    Nae fun in this world.
     
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    Form my perspective across the ocean in a young republic, I'm rather surprised that Britons are willing to throw away a thousand years of tradition so lightly. Without tradition, what is a nation's identity, and without identity, what is it save this locale's as opposed to that locale's gang of politicians?
     
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    I suppose the opposition argument is, it’s not worth it, so the question becomes what’s the point of a worthless tradition what stands against good meaning. I suppose the people will always be a lot more than something what means little to most likely the majority of them. And as the monarch has no real control of anything political related, there always was just politicians since it became that way.

    That’s my takes on the Questions
     
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    The UK doesn't have a collective identity - and I get the feeling the royalists and unionists will absolutely bombard me for saying this - but a collection of various identities, and the only collective identity is one fused in brutal imperialism, disgusting practises of divine rule - which, crucially, provides them paychecks until the day they die - by bloodline that haven't a place in a self-proclaimed "democracy" in a developed country.

    The only parts of the UK where the majority of people identify with a "British" identity are Greater London (a shift largely boosted by immigration, as they tend to take no association with the the constituent nations of the UK, and only identify with the entire thing) - and Northern Ireland, as Protestant Loyalists outnumber Catholic Republicans, marginally.

    The idea that abandoning the monarchy would rip the soul out of the nation is one that the media and pro-monarchist groups here manage to peddle so successfully that the entire world thinks that we actually care.
     
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    The Scandinavian and Dutch monarchs don't receive massive, multi-million payments and live in massive palaces, and don't have staff to do everything from guarding the grounds to wiping their a**.

    That's why most people who do dislike the "British" monarchy, do dislike them.
    Also the fact they've spend millions covering up for Andrew, and spend millions on ceremonies such as today's.

    And, as seen at the Queen's pre-funeral proceedings in Edinburgh, and today's coronation in London, it's suddenly a crime to protest against the monarchy.

    Is it 2023 or 1623?
     
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    very true indeed, not helped by how the union name “United Kingdom” gets more wrongful consideration as a country over the official 4.

    I too worried about that, seems a Typical Tory thing to do like with the environmental protests regardless on personal thoughts of such reasons.
     
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  27. matt#4801

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    I must agree with this one. I myself say I am English, not British and it really drives me up the wrong way when people refer to the uk as a country or London as being all the country is.
    Regarding the monarchy I have nothing wrong with it too much but I don't love it enough to go and sleep on the streets to see the coronation but as I say I did watch it on the tele.
     
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    “What is the difference between a living thing and a dead thing? In the medical world, a clinical definition of death is a body that does not change. Change is life. Stagnation is death. If you don't change, you die. It's that simple. It's that scary.”
    ― Leonard Sweet
     
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    By my reckoning that makes the king 14% as popular in Edinburgh as *checks notes* "having covid-19"...
     
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    What a spectacle, once again! Here in Germany it was also running yesterday on several TV channels at the same time. Of course all this is not in vain and a lot of tax money has flowed, not only for the parade, but also for the whole security forces. The funeral and the 70th anniversary of the throne jubilee of the Queen were also only last year. Whether a monarchy is still relevant in the 21st century is another question. But somehow we all need traditions and royal glamor to make everyday life a little more colourful, like art or culture. I think if there were no royal family, the yellow press would hardly have any interesting topics anymore. Unfortunately, all the scandals always make everything so ridiculous, when actually pride and respect of a nation or the glory of old days should be embodied. ;)
     
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    In Britain, it's generally weirdos and the idiotic types who show their allegiance to the monarchy.

    The King's brother has been exposed as a s*xual ab*ser - and there were people at the coronation that, when asked "How do you feel about Prince Andrew sitting with the other royals" said, and I quote:
    "Ah well, family is family, got to keep them together"

    If that's what the *fake* identity of the UK wants itself to become, then it should be destroyed.
     
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    Not really though, you could actually show the scenes during the actual event rather than them setting up for it.... Untitled.png Untitled1.png eh? Untitled.png
     
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    The coronation is visibly on in the shot I showed, so either a few busloads got stuck in traffic or it was just curious tourists who showed up.
     
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    Adding to this: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJuTvJbX/
     
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    Bit of a generalisation and a little bit ironic when talking to a forum full of train spotters!
     
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    Yes, things were so much happier under Cromwell....

    And that is on point? I don't think so. Would you dynamite Westminster Abbey because it's a "dead" thing?
    In case you hadn't noticed the monarchy has changed, and rather dramatically, But this idea that everything old must be demolished to clear the way for a new glorious future- one exemplified by the Eurovision song contest - is one I find as shortsighted and foolish as the Roundheads and Jacobins who destroyed forever so much of their nations' cultural heritage.
     
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    A generalisation yet mostly true.

    See my most recent reply to this thread.
     
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    I just provided a different point of view. I simply see no point in a constitutional monarchy in the 21st century.
     
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    whilst I don’t claim to know much of those groups activities and historical impact

    I never see any need in the maintenance of any particular culture, if it survives on good values then it will continue, if it shows nothing but archaic values, then as far as I can see it’s long past it’s dumping day.

    I to also see no point in a monarchy, other than a tourist attraction.

    I wouldn’t argue the removal of the royal family access to public funds, as I wouldn’t see the government spending it on better things anyways, so not much point on that front.

    that’s my take
     
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    So, a generic nondescript culture, so long as it has "good" values (whatever they are), completely interchangeable with the generic culture next door? You don't care if Britain ceases to be British?
     
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    Ain’t sure what you mean by “nondescript” something like generic I’m guessing, if so then I don’t mind.

    Straight up No, it never served me any purpose. (edit: if you have any particular part of what you have defined as “British” you wish to ask, do feel free to and I’ll provide an answer more explanatory)

    why have one with bad values… they get the Bin in my books. I would define good as do no harm, promote individuality, and sensible equal treatment.

    I also never associate with the term British neither, It’s meaningless from what I’ve seen. I was born in England so I’m English, their are those that are born on the opposite side of the world or the state/country of Northern Ireland that call themselves British, despite the fact that Britain is the island that holds only 3 internationally recognised countries (England Wales Scotland)

    when I get asked on official documents “British Welsh Scottish or other”, I go to the other and put in English.
     
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    So you recognize that "English" is something qualitatively different from "Scottish" and ":Welsh" then?
     
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    Very much so, English ain’t Scottish or Welsh likewise Scottish and Welsh aren’t English (same with the difference on Welsh and Scottish)

    of course the cultures are very a like apart from national differences but it’s like comparing football teams yes they both have the same amount of players but the fans won’t be happy to be called the other.

    I wouldn’t ever try to state the English are the same as Scottish it won’t go down well when they see…

    Edit: I suppose it’s quite like America and Canada aswell, the culture isn’t a million years apart, both North American but have differences where I’m sure one wouldn’t want to be called the same as the other.
     
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    I'm sure a lot of them would see a forum full of train enthusiasts being nothing more than freaks and weirdos.

    Horses for courses!

    Be a boring world if we all liked the same things.

    No, I'm not a royal fanatic. Yes, I do think we should retain a Royal family, I'm sure that the income they generate from tourism alone is quite substantial.

    No, I don't think we should be apologising for what happened hundreds of years ago, neither should we be forgetting about it or hiding it. We should however, be learning from it.
     
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    Wow, the amount of grandad caps even on the kids there and the orange hue to it all make it look like these were taken during the previous coronation :D Did Peaky Blinders bring them back in fashion or something?
     
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    A historic building, much like all the ones associated with the French monarchy that people still come to see, and generate tourism income, is worth keeping around. A frankly bizarre family with alien customs and mannerisms who are so divorced from normal people that they only approved Diana marrying Charles once a solid case was made that one of his forebears probably knocked up her grandmother, who use disproportionate wealth and influence to manipulate the country's politics in manners that personally serve them? Probably not as beneficial.
     
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    There's nothing wrong with a flat cap!
     
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    There is no such thing as a British culture.

    Like absolutely everything about the UK, it is stolen from different nations and their cultures and mixed together into something horrific.

    The closest you'll get to a true, unique, British culture are Madchester / Britpop, and the various subcultures such as Football Casuals.

    That's hardly a true national identity.

    P.S. "Britain" means England & Wales.
     
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    The English-controlled governments of the UK attempted to criminalise the Scottish Cultures and destroy our very way of life.

    Fast forward to today, and Scotland is again proud to be a nation, with a culture totally distinct from England's. (We do have similarities to the North of England but their culture isn't what gets the spotlight globally)
     
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    Hey gang,

    given that this is a touchy subject I'd like to remind everyone to keep a civil tone while discussing this. Thank you.
     
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