Midland Mainline - Skyhook Feedback

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  1. theorganist

    theorganist Well-Known Member

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    Shame you can't have a look at that routes timetable after MML! :)
     
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  2. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    Oooh does this mean a patch may be on the horizon?
     
  3. solicitr

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    Peak Forest isn't a Skyhook route
     
  4. jane-skyhook

    jane-skyhook Well-Known Member

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    I am not involved in Peak Forest, except for the sheer fun of it outside of work. I am purely in the fan camp :)
     
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  5. marcsharp2

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    Sorry I meant a patch for MML lol
     
  6. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    For MML
     
  7. March Hare

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    To be fair, I thought that was fairly obvious
     
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  8. JetWash

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    Me too!
     
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  9. Jeannot41

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    Good morning
    I don't know where to ask my question, concerning MML, and the mastery.
    I try here.
    I have completed the mastery of MML, but I do not get the thumbnail to check for the reward.
    Am I the only one in this situation? Does this problem only blame DTG.
    Thank you for your lights.
     
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  10. Taihennami

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    The Mastery section of the GUI seems to be a bit glitchy in general. Restart the game and you should see it there.
     
  11. stevenwalker1985

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    Indeed
     
  12. Jeannot41

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    No, it's been more than 10 days, and I restart the game every day, and nothing comes.
    I even logged out of Live and back in, but nothing.
    Thanks anyway.
     
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  13. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    It's obvious a patch is on the horizon and not still being worked on? Do you have a date? Maybe the upcoming lottery numbers as well?
     
  14. March Hare

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    Um, no... I was backing your corner. I meant it was fairly obvious to me that you were referring to MML in your question, not Peak Forest... But I also thought this was fairly obvious because I was replying to your apology lol
     
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  15. marcsharp2

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    Well, I look like an idiot lol. Sorry my bad, not an excuse but I'm on my third twelve hour shift in three days with a pounding head so I completely misread it. My apologies.
     
  16. Bravo2six

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    This is the internet, nothing is obvious
     
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  17. March Hare

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    Lol No worries.
     
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  18. jane-skyhook

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    hey, I was confused too and I don't have a headache so what is my excuse ;)
     
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  19. Class156

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    I’m enjoying the route so far and looking forward to the patch! I’ve barely scratched the service and need to get to know the line, but everything I’ve seen so far from Jane on here suggests we are going to be pleased when the update is out!
     
  20. chieflongshin

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    Something ive noticed with the 158 is sometimes when you view the train from the 1 or 2 cam when you're driving you can see the passengers however on the 2 cam theres some magic at play as the train is empty.
     
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    I’m sorry if this has already been notified but at Nottingham station there’s a track switch missing:
    IMG_0463.jpeg
     
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    Unsure if this has been mentioned. When using custom liveries on the HST, a lot of the windows that are blocked out on the EMT livery are transparent.

    20230512020613_1.jpg 20230512020553_1.jpg 20230512020617_1.jpg

    Additionally, if you use custom liveries with high snow settings, the power cars spawn completely covered in snow :D 20230512021427_1.jpg
     
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  23. ExcelsiorGamingYT

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    Hi Jane, I mentioned a few weeks ago that you can't sit down as a passenger in any of the HST seats, I have also just found out its happening on the Railtours aswell. Not a single seat is able to be sat down on and ride the train as a passenger.
     
  24. stevenwalker1985

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    Sloppy workmanship
     
  25. Bravo2six

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    Unlikely, most probably a bug.
     
  26. stevenwalker1985

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    Still sloppy
     
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    The whole route is sloppy workmanship to be honest. That's why they are having to patch the hell out of it!

    But at least they are patching it. Still no update for the awful West Cornwall route and the 150...
     
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  28. JetWash

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    To be fair guys, I think ‘rushed’ is probably more apt. Why it was rushed we’ll never know, although I suspect we can all make an educated guess…
     
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  29. March Hare

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    Just life ;) I'm confused at least five out of three times every yesterday.
     
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  30. SeventeenF

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    This isn't just an MML thing. Passengers often unrender when Camera 2 is far away from the train. Try pressing the up arrow and see if the passengers start rendering as you get closer.

    Edit: just tested it on CCL, and sure enough, the passengers would appear/disappear based on Cam 2's distance from the train.
     
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  31. jane-skyhook

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    morning yes we are looking in to this. I have seen reports it is also an issue on other routes with different rolling stock. We are working with DTG and our tech team to resolve.
     
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  32. jane-skyhook

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    I would be grateful please if this thread could be kept civil. The team have worked mega hard on this route for a long time now and have always done their best. They really care and are putting in a huge effort on updates and fixes (adding new stuff too). I think calling the team sloppy is quite unfair to be honest.
     
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  33. Scorpion71

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    This happens on all MK2's, it had been reported to DTG months ago and was acknowledged, hopefully you and your team can kick some butts and finally get DTG to resolve this issue on the MK2's! ;)
     
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  34. stewartforgie

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    well said Jane, I love how you are standing up for your team as well as keeping us plebs informed of developments.
     
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  35. stevenwalker1985

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    I am civil. But i also speak my mind. No sugar coating from me. Lol
     
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  36. Bravo2six

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    No, just no.
     
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  37. Bravo2six

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    Ever thought that "speaking your mind" doesn't ever help situations and usually just makes this worse?
    That isn't sugar coating, that's just aggressive negativity, under the "ruse" of an opinion.

    Jane and the Skyhook team have done incredibly well on the base product alone and this patch will be to an insanely high standard.
     
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  38. Javelin

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    Honestly, I find your attitude to be rather sloppy.
     
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  39. stevenwalker1985

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    No really. Just being honest. Ruse??? Is that even a word? Lol
     
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    Thank you
     
  41. jane-skyhook

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    I just wanted to share a new model for you all as we expand the world with more bespoke buildings. This is the Derby Roundhouse.

    Roundhouse (1).jpg
     
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    That looks very nice.
     
  43. SeventeenF

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    There is no need to try to shut down people who are dissatisfied with the current state of the route. The best way to silence criticism is to improve its quality, and certainly not with these passive-aggressive phrases like "I would be grateful please if the thread could be kept civil." A customer calling a missing switch "sloppy" isn't not civil, it's just what it is. And criticising the team's workmanship isn't "unfair," when there's a screenshot proving it right there. Far from being "unfair," I don't think you can get more constructive than that.

    Unfortunate as it may be, until the patch is released, you'll probably encounter criticism. Yes, it might feel bad to see your team working hard on fixing the route, only to simultaneously see their workmanship being called into question here. Please understand, however, that while you are seeing the fruits of their labor real-time, day-after-day, we are not. We are only seeing a few screenshots, so whatever the scope of the improvements is, an ordinary forum user isn't fully aware of it. That doesn't mean the work isn't appreciated. It's just hard to appreciate it fully when the results are much less apparent to us than they are to you. So until said results are released to the public, you should expect a certain disconnect between what you're seeing internally and what we're reacting to. Hell, maybe the switch isn't even missing anymore :)

    Nah, Jane assurred us before in no uncertain terms that they, quote, "didn't rush anything out." Please believe the corporate representative instead of your lying eyes.
     
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  44. rennekton#1349

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    Wcl is a rivet route
     
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    Yes it is in the dictionary next to rancorous!

    Speaking your mind can be a very good thing but when you are insulting people by making assumptions, maybe not so!
     
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  46. peterchambers

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    Well said, Madam. I am sure the devs are at least as disappointed/angry as we are by the decision of the bean counters to release this before they had finished it.
     
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  47. theorganist

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    It is hardly a case of shutting debate down but it is a question of what language you use and maybe remember that these are real human beings you are insulting not some faceless corporate body.

    You will be moaning if developers don't come on these forums and engage with the "community" so maybe best to make it a more pleasant place to do so.
     
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    That looks great having worked there nearly ten yeas ago (how time flies) it looks very accurate and sets the scene for the station nicely. I see the car park and bus stop are accurately modeled. Maybe a few too many trees as looks like a mini forest and is more open with grass. But honestly, I am nit picking! :cool:

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    That looks amazing well done to you all
     
  50. stevenwalker1985

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    Totally agree with you bud.
     
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