Train Sim World 3 Missing Locomotive Dlc For Existing Uk Routes

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  1. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    Below I have compiled a fairly comprehensive list of British types currently absent from DLC lineups.

    Great Western Express

    Class 57 and Mk3 Sleeper stock
    Class 59/0 & 59/1 with aggregate wagons
    Class 165/1 DMU
    Class 180 DMU

    Diesel Legends of the Great Western

    Class 22
    Class 35
    Class 42/43 Maybach (42) NBL-MAN or Paxman Ventura (43)
    Class 117 & 121 DMU
    Class 123 DMU
    Class 128 DPU
    Class 251/261 Blue Pullman sets

    West Somerset Railway

    Class 14
    Class 35
    Class 42/43
    Class 104 DMU
    Class 120 DMU

    East Coastway
    Class 60
    Class 377 EMU variants as yet unmade

    Isle of Wight

    Class 03 and engineers wagons
    Class 05
    Class 485/486 EMU

    London Commuter

    Class 33/1 & 33/2
    Class 73
    Class 455 EMU
    Class 700/1 EMU

    Legends of LBN

    Class 403 5BEL Brighton Pullman EMU
    Class 423 4VEG GatEx EMU
    Class 73, 488/2 & /3, 489 GatEx formations
    Class 460 Juniper GatEx EMU
    Class 442 5WES GatEx EMU


    Southeastern High Speed

    Class 70 (diesel)
    Class 92
    Class 465 EMU variants as yet unmade
    Class 466 EMU

    Tees Valley Line

    Class 56
    Class 142 or 143 Pacer

    Northern Transpennine

    Class 25
    Class 123 DMU
    Class 124 DMU
    Class 128 DPU
    Class 141 Pacer

    Cathcart Circle

    Class 318 EMU
    Class 320 EMU
    Class 303 EMU (Legends of CCL)

    West Cornwall Local

    Class 43 (valenta) with Mk3 coaches
    Class 50 with Mk2 coaches
    Class 118 DMU
    Class 122 DMU

    Legends of Glasgow Edinburgh

    Class 126 DMU
    Class 27 push pull formations
    Class 47 push pull formations

    Midland Mainline

    Class 153 DMU
    Class 156 DMU
    Class 220/221/222 DEMU
    Class 251/261 Midland Pullman sets (Legends of MML)

    Peak Forest

    Class 45 in BR Green
    Class 104 DMU in BR Green

    Unique Types

    Class 41 Warship (DLoGW & WCL)
    Class 70 Electric Locomotive (both variants)(LBN, ECW & SEHS)
    Class 140 Prototype Pacer
    Class 210 DEMU
    Class 252 Prototype HST
    Class 370 APT-P EMU
    Class 445 & 446 PEP EMU
    APT-E GTMU

    I would like to hear your thoughts and also any further suggestions that I may have missed.
     
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    west coastway trains Well-Known Member

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    Ecw - class 171
     
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  3. trainsimplayer

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    (even though it's not out yet)
    Glossop Line - Class 331?
     
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  4. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps some ideas for the alleged release of Preston to Blackpool set during the BR era would be nice to hear. I guess this will come with the Class 142 Pacer and a diesel electric locomotive. Not too sure what else ran here during this time.
     
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    how can you release a northern route but not have the 331/195 come on man but it looks like a promising route in terms of location it would also be nice to join up nottingham with leeds and sheffield but i don't think that will happen for another route sadly.
     
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  6. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    How about Tees Valley Line
    Class 60 prototype
    Class 58 Bone.
    Birmingham Cross City Line
    Class 196
    Class 730
    SEH
    Class 92 the Channel Tunnel freight loco
    SNCF BB22200 TVM-430 version can layer to LGV this was called Class 22. Service pattern for both locomotives Ripple Lane to Ashford International. Because the in-game timetable doesn't reflect high speed 1 freight.
     
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  7. Woroszyl The NS 2000

    Woroszyl The NS 2000 Well-Known Member

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    All of the stuff quoted above are the must imo.
     
  8. AirbourneAlex

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    Not sure what the purpose of this list is? We can't expect all of these to be made, if any given how infrequent loco add-ons for existing routes are nowadays. The most common types would be most beneficial, where they would add the most services to the timetables. Anything more obscure like one-off prototypes would add little benefit as they could only add a small handful of services to play.
     
  9. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    It is a list of types that could/should all come to the game at some point. Many of these would better populate existing routes. If DTG are really interested in making money, as any business should be, then perhaps it is time to start working on at least a few of them. I wish to one day see as many TOPS classes brought to life as possible.
     
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  10. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Wonderful mate, a fair few of these would be able to cross onto other routes, the 56 on NTP and 25 on PFR jump to my mind straight away.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    How about Class 92 on BCC it has enough power to make Lickey Incline easily due to it being two electric locomotives in one due to Channel Tunnel regulations which requires electric locomotives to have duplicated systems.
     
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    wouldn’t the 332 also add to that list, of course better if the route actually went to Heathrow.
     
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    SHINO BAZ Well-Known Member

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    In just what reality do you see DTG making even half this list,let alone the fact that very few TSW players would have enough spare euros to buy everything you listed.
     
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    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    They should strive to create as many as possible to further enhance gameplay/collectability. As far as purchasing is concerned, I cannot see any issue as people currently only buy what they wish to buy or can afford. TSC has a massive catalogue of routes and types but I very much doubt that everyone owns everything.
     
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    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    Unless we actually one day get Heathrow Express branch added, I see very little point in the dedicated Class 332 EMU as there is no logical endpoint because they don't stop at Hayes and Harlington.
     
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  16. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    No, I don't believe a 92 has ever been up lickey and if one has it is certainly not a normal thing.
     
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    (It's a driverwoods special - a fact that is technically true but has literally zero value for anyone or anything)
     
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    OK then but how about a Class 60 which can do Lickey Incline unassisted with the TEA tankers
     
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    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    A 60 probably could though it would have to be a layer from another route as there would be very few services on this route. Of course this is pressuming they still run up lickey as I haven't been there in years.
     
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    I don’t think 58s ever worked into Teeside, if they did it was certainly not often.
    Same with the 92s up Lickey
     
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    All round the Class 56 would be the top of my list (despite my love for Sulzer Type 2’s and Class 50’s). Would be at home on TVL, NTP and GWE. We also do need another heritage DMU, preferably the 104 but I would settle for a 108 or 117.

    EMU wise, well any and all of the classic BR SR DC units would be on my wish list, along with a 303 for Cathcart Circle.

    But sadly as others have intimated, it seems original thought and enthusiasm for servicing existing content have gone out the window at DTG TSW department, in favour of pushing the latest 15 mile commuter yawnfest.
     
  22. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    If we got new types to use, there might be interest from new players in some of the existing routes as there would be so much more to do than is currently the case. This is why we often hear negativity towards the older routes as there is only so much that can be achieved. To use DTGs point that they are a business with the need to make profits, this is a perfect opportunity to do just that. Many routes, with the exception of LBN seem vastly underpopulated and deserted compared to their real world counterparts.
     
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    Nice list, it would be nice to see some of this made.

    A class 421 for a backdated or legends for BML would be useful. A class 108 for NTP as well.

    There is also a whole roster of steamers which could be built for SOS and PFR.

    I can't imagine any case where a class 92 would have worked up the Lickey, unless some kind of test. There is no freight which would start or end at Bromsgrove where the OHEL ends.

    I hope we do see an uptick in loco/stock DLC for existing and future routes it has been lacking in recent years. The class 700 and mystery German DLC are hopefully promising signs.
     
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  24. gwrfan#3416

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    Once again a great suggestion elarthur hope majority of these dlcs get made one day. Though maybe you could add a br class 153 dlc for TVL you'll only need to change the year it's set slightly but from what I've seen on a old video most stock currently used on the line were around on the line at the time.
     
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    The class 101's were long gone from the area by the time the 153's were introduced, a new timetable with the 153 instead of the 101 would work well.
     
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    We used to hang around Reading station a lot in the early seventies and seeing the Hymek 35 and Warship 42/43 classes coming through was very common. I would love to see those and the silver painted Pullman class in TSW which we really looked forward to seeing pulling into the station pullman class 251 Reading.jpg . In it's day it looked space age to the other engines...a sad day when they were taken from service.
     
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    Isn’t the 323 the only train that runs on that line?
     
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    There has been quite a bit of discussion on the forums over the years about what the Blue Pullmans sounded like, as there don’t seem to be many (any) recordings in existence. Opinions vary from a slightly muffled Hymek, to similar to MTU engined HSTs.
     
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    Possibly, but it could do a bit on the other lines and it wouldn't hurt to add it in for some variety.
     
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    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    The engines were the same NBL-MAN units as found in Class 22 Baby Warship (single), Class 41 Warship (pairs), and Class 43 Warship (pairs). Sadly none survived of any of these classes. However, Class 22 Society have one power unit for their proposed Baby Warship new build project which I strongly recommend looking up.
     
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    cherik#7579 New Member

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    Also the class 172 on the cross city
     
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    cherik#7579 New Member

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    What about Bakerloo line
    Aventra Class 710
    Electrostar Class 378
    From Queens Park to harrow
     
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    cherik#7579 New Member

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    And the 376 on Southeasten High Speed running from Dartford to Gravesend
     
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    I would love that one!
     
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    The 331 doesn't operate on the glossop line. If it came out it would probably do AI services around manchester piccadily
     
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    Yes any of these would be a great addition particularly the class 25 on the trans pennine route and class 27 and 47 on the push pulls and the 73' s on the Gatwick Express . I remember these trains so it would be great to actually be able to drive them thanks for suggesting it
     
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    Nope there's going to be class 158s but they're ai
     
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    That's only at Piccadilly, I believe that the only trains that operate to Glossop and Hadfield are the 323s currently.
     
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    1. 20230530_130355.jpg
    2. 323 239 at Glossop on a Hadfield to Manchester Piccadilly servicec
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    4. 158 847 at Manchester Oxford Rd on a Nottingham to Liverpool service
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    195010 at Guide Bridge on a Manchester Pic to Rose Hill service

    Yes your wright the 323,'s work the Hadfield trains .The 331's work the Mancheter Airport services .The EMR Class 158 s work the Nottingham to Liverpool services on the through Platforms at Piccadilly its usually a pair of Class I58's They only work on part of the route so it will be probably why they are AI only .TPE trains travel on the Glossop line between Manchester Pic and Guide Bridge but they don't stop anywhere .Also you the get class 195 on the Rose Hill service as far as Guide Bridge not sure if they will ever include it in the game
     
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