Hi, A new Bossman loco has just been launched, the SR V Schools Class. The three scenarios included require the West Somerset Railway route Add-On. On Steam there seems to be some ambiguity about the compatibility of this line with TSC. They don't say whether it's compatible or not. Please, is this route compatible with TSC? Thank you and Regards, Richard.
This is an excellent route, so realistic too. I have traveled on the WSR many times and love it and both the TSC and TSW versions run fine. I recommend the SR V class but not bought it yet. I have all BMGs products so will be purchasing this especially as their are scenarios for WSR.
I'm not sure what you find ambiguous? There is a link from the page with the Schools loco on it to the route that it needs. Therefore it must be compatible! H
Further to my recent response, can someone ITK advise why it’s £19.99 on the Bossman website and £14.99 on Steam?
nwp1 Thank you for your fast answer! Hugh Janus You're right, but on Steam it said "Is this game relevant to you?" and sometimes certain lines were only compatible with older versions of TS! When in doubt, I wanted confirmation!
Well, if you aren't prepared to accept that a link from that page takes you to what you need, you certainly shouldn't trust what strangers say on forums! Steam are describing it as an "offer", so that price is probably temporary. H
It pops up on my TS home screen as "Featured Offer" from time to time, but not every time. When I saw it, I couldn't figure out what made it an offer, but when you mentioned price I put two and two together. Hugh Hugh
l checked on Steam if it was an offer it would say by the price giving a date when it is on offer to.
Some people may not have the Steam Overlay enables in the Steam Client - as such they don't see the offers.
Don't shoot the messenger. I don't pretend to understand the complexities of Steam's sales techniques, but the words "Featured Offer" rather suggest that it is indeed an offer. Perhaps you should complain to Steam that they are not telling the truth. Maybe they will even put the price up too. H
Hugh I think you are misunderstanding Featured Offers. It does not mean the product is reduced. In the section you refered to DTG normally show two of the recently released offerings. It would also show the price with a line through it and the new sale price if was on sale. China Railways CR400BF and SR V class are the latest releases, hence they appear in that section. They don’t mean that they have a reduced price. China Railways CR400BF released on 2nd June that is why it is in the latest offer section. SR V class released on June Ist. I hope that this explains it to you. Having just been released they will not be reduced for sale for at least a couple of months.
Am I the only one who wonders how this guys username passes DTG's nanny state muster? I personally don't care what he calls himself just find it funny that it's obviously flown over so many heads.
Hugh Janus The route you need is specifically this one. As for the two versions of the Schools Class, the Steam version is not a special offer, it just includes less content. Notice the BMG store version has ten liveries rather than the four of the Steam version. Therefore, like many third party releases on Steam, it's best to avoid it.
Good sleuthing! That explains both why it is marked as a "Featured Offer" and the lower price. One can only conclude that Steam considered the price of a full version would not appeal to their customer-base. They, and only they, would know what sells well and what doesn't. As to which is the best choice for purchase, that's up to the end user - in my instance all the liveries I would use are included in the cheaper version. But it would be nice to have a period route to run it on, and at present I don't think there is one. Unless I have missed something obvious . . . which has been known! Hugh
No, the 'featured offer' text doesn't really mean anything. I don't know why DTG went with that title for it when designing the TS2014 UI. It's DTG who decide the prices. Third party DLCs on Steam generally need to conform to what DTG says and so to fit this Bossman games had to cut down on included content. Virtual Railroads remove features from their packs, and AP only include one or two liveries in theirs (or in some cases a separate, exclusive version with different liveries like the Great Eastern Class 90). As for which you should go for, I'd always say to go for the slightly more expensive one. You get a lot more for the price.
Thank you for all that information, you clearly have first-hand contact in the industry to know all that detail. Which is remarkably surprising given the NDAs their staff are required to sign up to! But at the end of the day, it is down to commercial considerations. And for the buyer it is too. Your advice simply wouldn't fit with my personal needs, as I explained, and would be wasted money. It must be the same for some other potential buyers. Only a fool buys what they don't want and will never need. Its a decision for each individual to make. Still, it is nice to know there is a choice, thanks again for identifying that.
I don't have any insider info, just experience. As for the extra liveries, you may realise in the future you want to get those liveries and then you'll need to buy the whole pack again to get them, so while it is your choice I'd still recommend spending the extra £5, even if you don't plan on using the extra content right away. That's why I said generally, there are cases of third party DLCs that cost more than DTG's usual prices.
I know for certain I won't. I really don't understand why you are so persistently dictatorial over this, what suits you doesn't necessarily suit others. We all play the game the way that we choose. And those with sense only buy what they need. Indeed, every purchase requires careful management of money by the less well-off, its unfair to say "just spend another fiver for the sake of it". The great thing here is that you have at least identified the difference between the two, which helps everybody here to choose.
I don't get what you mean. Do you have a problem with what I said about developers removing content to fit DTG's pricing on Steam? If so it's even been talked about on this forum by actual developers, it's not a conspiracy. EDIT: See this post.
Well to be clear, this is DTG setting price limits for DLC and developers making stripped-down versions so that Steam buyers don't get the same amout of content for less money. It isn't about DTG asking devs to take stuff out.
The developer wants to maximize profit. Steam offers a larger audience, however there is revenue sharing - and sales. In theory I support higher prices resulting in better quality and a greater ecosystem, but admittedly I hardly pick up premium stuff. Games in general got more expensive over the years - if nothing else, gradual inflation. This is just wording. Nitpick level technically, everything is an offer - for exchange. Thesaurus says: present something to accept or reject as desired. What you expected is a discount / sale. But it simply means "stuff" here. Maybe "item" would be a better word on the UI. In-game is designed by DTG, they are first and foremost a marketing company, using every element to drive sales. Here they literally just mean that it's a new thing available. Most usually it's simply the last two DLC. I never realized this could be tricky, but apparently. Sometimes there is an introductional offer (discount).
I should have been clearer, although I didn't suggest it was a DTG demand. That said I don't know of the exact context of it - for example, the Class 222 is the same price on JT's website and Steam and are nearly identical, just the Steam version has some branding missing (and as usual it's better to go for the JT website version). Perhaps more recently they've relaxed the rules? Perhaps it has something to do with DTG's reduced DLC development for TS, which arguably and quite ironically makes them a secondary developer on their own game. One can speculate.
