Midland Mainline - Skyhook Feedback

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  1. antony.henley

    antony.henley Well-Known Member

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    Just had a TPWS application 7.8 miles from Leicester. Service 1C20 Derby - St Pancakes
    PS 5 by the way. Seems as though I am missing a few patch files as well.
    Hentis.
     
  2. stewartforgie

    stewartforgie Well-Known Member

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    It seems as though SG have given their team free reign to be as creative as possible with their attention to detail and little touches on these subtle improvements. well done to the team for a job well done! I cant wait to see what the future holds for this route going forward.
     
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  3. bescot

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    Same for me on Steam
     
  4. Dave Mel

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    Still getting emergency braked using HST i got emergency braked twice on the same service 1D12. got braked around half way up the route and got braked just outside nottingham station. im on PS 5 were they tested. BTW i didnt have DSD on only had AWS on
     
  5. fakenham

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    Great, hopefully we'll get the patches some time today - the signalling corrections are the main things I'm fussed about.
    Thanks again for your hard work.
     
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  6. That Train Sim Guy

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    A minor setup issue with one of the new freight services (6M93 Leicester to Toton HL).

    The second Class 66 has its headlights set to day by default:

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    Which somehow illuminates the cab of the leading Class 66:

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    Turning them off gives a much better driving experience!

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  7. jane-skyhook

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    Ok guys,

    An update from me. We have confirmed that there has been an issue with pushing of some of the patch files. I can only but apologise. It seems to be an error in an automated file revision tool. Each platform has its own missing things. I am so sorry :( I really wanted you all to love this patch on release.

    The good news is we are working rapidly to audit each file for integrity and checking for each format, PC, PS5, Xbox etc. We are in constant contact with DTG who are being super helpful. (thanks guys!). My hope is for a micro update coming really soon to replace those missing files.

    We have spotted signalling files missing (including safety systems), various HST files (including DSD, numbering of units and coaches etc). Also new buildings not appearing on different platforms.

    Dev sent out a full and complete patch (I am really proud of the team!). Along the way, some file tool has mangled versions of some of the many thousands of files that has gone in to the patch. I want to be clear this is not a "fault" of either Skyhook or DTG who have both worked really hard to bring this patch to you. It seems a revision tool got a life of its own on file versions.

    Again, I apologise and we will get anything missing to each platform very shortly.

    Jane
     
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  8. jane-skyhook

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    that was for you Marc and all the support you have given us!
     
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  9. jane-skyhook

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    Thank you, can't blame this on a revision tool. It is something we missed! I appreciate you spotting it. We will add it to the next update.
     
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  10. marcsharp2

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    As you say, it's no one's fault it's just one of them things, I can only speak for myself but I'm personally loving the update and can't wait to see what comes next
     
  11. MAX1319

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    Here’s my support for all the hard work your team has done IMG_2760.jpeg
     
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  12. jane-skyhook

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    thank you so much for the purchase. It means such a great deal to the team. Marc is not the only emotional person in this group today, I have just joined him in welling up. I know how hard everyone has worked and your support means so much to the team.

    Thank you from my heart,
    Jane
     
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  13. Dave Mel

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    i still think this route is too bright or maybe its the contrast is wrong. could do with a slider making so we can adjust the contrast/brightness
    im a PS 5 user
     
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    Stop it you will get me going in a minute lol. Great work guys.
     
  15. dudders

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    All the routes are to bright white washed in places. This has been a on going conversation since tsw3
     
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  16. MYG92

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    Random TPWS applications are going nuts I just did a run with the HST, the 1D44 London to Nottingham and 4 miles before Loughborough station it triggered a stop, I think I’ll deactivate it until it gets fixed.
     
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    Top marks for Daisy and you Jane and your team. Fantastic work.
    I already loved the 158 but love it even more now I understand the guard has a job to do as well lol Brilliant ;);)
     
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  18. jonah#2401

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    So my preference for additions to the MML would obviously be an extension to Sheffield from Derby but also from Nottingham vie the Erewash Valley Line to do stopping service from Nottingham to Leeds.
    I’d love to see the Class 222 Meridian, a Northern livery added to the 158 and a EMT 156
    I’d love to see future extensions on the Hope Valley Line from Sheffield, from Leicester down to St Pancras and from Derby to Birmingham
     
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  19. Dave Mel

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    just did a run in the 158 Derby to Nottingham. i got emergency braked again just before nottingham station. Think my patience is beginning to run out. PS 5 user
     
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    Before the 25mph limit? Isnt that an approach control thing, being at 70mph dropping to 25mph rather quickly
     
  21. man_utduk2002

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    I was on platform 2b at Leicester waiting for 10:07 departure but pis seemed confused it heading to London but also calling at Chesterfield sheffeild then back to Chesterfield then back to Leicester and finally London St pancras . Think it's meant to display Nottingham? I stand to be corrected of course ( this on xbox series X)
     
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  22. trainman#4695

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    Just out of interest has there been any changes to the audio volume inside the cab on the 158 as it seems a little quiet.
     
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    Yeah I hit this and fairly sure it was approach control checking my speed and working as intended
     
  24. MAX1319

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    I believe they are aware the patch is missing some safety system files. Jane mentioned earlier and they are working on it
     
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  25. sophieclarke1983

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    Is this a test or glitch lol this is on ticket machine post update platform 6A Derby midland mainline
     

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    More like an error there’s some CCTV signages with the WMR logo
     
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  27. MarkCovz4761

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    They are looking into that some of the patch was missing they are working on it now
     
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    Still experiencing heavy stuttering around Long Eaton and Ratcliffe power station. Xbox Series X (according to YouTube videos, also a problem on PC).
     
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  29. Disintegration7

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    Can't believe the publisher borked the update....oh, wait, yes i can!

    Hope it gets sorted quickly as this updated has been greatly anticipated!!!!
     
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    The notch 3 RPM volume has been lowered by around 30% to make it match the rest of the notches (without it you can hear an abrupt change in volume when going from notch 3 to notch 4 or notch 3 to notch 2). Every other engine sound in the cab is the same. The cab is quite IRL, you are on the opposite end of the engines (unless you're sitting in a middle cab).
     
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  31. johnmcglade17

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    The update is a lot better But there is no Freight services And when will it be coming I am on the ps5
     
  32. yellowpanda#3079

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    No extra foliage at syston on Xbox
     
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  33. MYG92

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    I’m on PS5 and I downloaded the update. Freight services are there and you can have additional layers if you own the ROG DLC.
     
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    Freight services got borked due to a late issue. Will be patched in the next MML patch (as per Jane above)
     
  35. johnmcglade17

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    Ok And the route is a lot better
    The route is 9 /10 That's how I rate the route at the moment I think it has improved
     
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  36. marcsharp2

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    I was pleasantly surprised to see some cement freight trains available on PS5 as well. Will be giving them a blast later.
     
  37. 1dart Mart

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    I thought consoles were getting freight later, or is it just Xbox that will get them next patch?
     
  38. redlichtie#1320

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    Seems like a mixed bag of who gets what content ar the moment.

    Jane. On other matters regarding further gameplay features. Can you confirm or deny whether the MML route can be expanded to further destinations in the future. Could enlighten all the fans who want Sheffield, Bedford etc.

    Looking forward to giving the update a blast tonight. Thanks for what you and the team have achieved so far.
     
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    That’s what I thought as well. But there’s a ps5 user later in this thread who has the freight? I’m on Xbox and I didn’t see any freight :(
     
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    I'm on xbox and I have cement freight
     
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  41. 1dart Mart

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    Oh, ok. I’ll go take another look later and see if it did download. Thanks
     
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    The new enhanced timetable, just wow! Absolutely fantastic! An absolutely game changer for the route!

    Well done Skyhook and thank you jane-skyhook for your positive engagement!
     
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    I picked the gwe 66 it was on there for me
     
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    The extra time is correct It is simulating guard to driver ‘send away’ simulation. One local door stays open for a little longer each time, I believe it’s a random and different one each time too. Then once all doors closed you get the ‘away’ buzzer and off you go. Perfectly realistic.
     
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  45. fakenham

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    mmmm...

    Just reading the patch list, it doesn't seem to cover the important signalling stuff such as.... AWS ramp directionality issues/incorrect approach control (at some junctions)/TPWS activation issues and ground shunt signal on main signal post problems - I can only see the following signalling corrections in the patch list. i.e

    -Added AWS magnet on the line from Derby -> Spondon
    -Fitted incandescent bulbs to signal just north of Leicester station
    -Signal LR501 should no longer display double greens on a clear aspect, and appropriate numbers of yellows on caution aspects.
    -Activated AWS ramp for signal just north of Beeston station.
    -Fixed conflicting speed limit information around curve at Long Eaton and before East Midlands Parkway from Nottingham
    -Removed short 90mph section when leaving Nottingham station

    Hoping they fixed the stuff I've mentioned but forgotten to put it in the patch list.....
     
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    This is what available for me:
    IMG_2608.jpeg
     
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    You are probably driving way too fast, or faster than the release speed of approaching signals. I never have an issue
     
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    Ah, got it now. I was using Class 66DBS GWE and there is no freight at Midland. But I’ve changed to 66EWS GWE and I’m in. Thanks again.
     
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    Gang,

    Can I have a little help please? Can we confirm that the Derby Roundhouse and other new buildings are NOT showing on consoles?
     
  50. theorganist

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    The publisher didn't neither did the developer!

     
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