Midland Mainline - Skyhook Feedback

Indeed - the approach is identical either way. In fact, my employer trains new Drivers that there's no such thing as an 'approach control' signal. Every signal is red because you're to stop at it. Never get into the habit of expecting a signal to 'come off'.

In reality, psychologically, it's incredibly difficult to put out of your mind the fact that the last 99 times you approached that signal it was red, and cleared at exactly the same moment as you approached it! And that's how SPADs happen...

 

Tell a lie - no I cannot hear the Green light AWS clear tone. Something a little weird going on there. Can hear them outside HST though

 

That is really interesting, it almost encourages people to SPAD those signals when I think about it as it seems to create complacency.

 

thank you, I will ask people to take a look in the morning and fix if needed.

 

jane-skyhook you may have already answered this, bit is there plans to add better scenery around Leicester Station? St George's Tower being missing is a big omission

 

Short answer is yes, we ran out of time for update 1, but we have a lot of scenery plans and other items on the list going forward. We are continuing to plug away with MML for quite some time yet.

 

Great to know. Thanks

 

My only answers are

1) We are currently putting together the plan as to what we build next with MML
2) I love both of those ideas personally

 

Also explains why I’ve just found out that acknowledgment isn’t mapped to the ‘B’ button on the XBox controller! (It is mapped and works for AWS.)

 

Thanks Jane and good to know, but I'm really hoping basic corrections to signals like this made it into patch 1 ......unfortunately the patch notes infer that they hadn't made it,along with a raft of other important stuff,such as AWS corrections,approach control, TPWS....






Note the feathers are the wrong way round.

Love the work done on other aspects of the route and train though!

 

Jane the update so far has been a massive improvement i really love the 158 the guard feature is brilliant all your hard work is paying off slowly yes there are still some issues but you will sort them you and the team should be proud of your work thank you for the communication keep up the great work

 

Thanks for this. On the patch notes, they are just a guide to some of the highlights with most of the fixes not actually listed. I didn't want the notes to be a novel. There are an enormous number of items fixed that are not in the notes.

There has been a lot of work on signalling and safety. That work is not finished by any means, but is continuing going forward, so we will get there. Please keep reporting what you see and it will always be added to the team patch list. A lot has changed, but I am the first to admit we are not finished on signalling and safety systems.

 

Thank you so much Mark, I am so grateful to you.

I genuinely think that guard feature is a breakthrough and totally new. We have the very talented Daisy to thank for that!

 

Please thank Daisy for us and you're very welcome

 

You have not read the list full Jane's fixes properly. That is Walter, the Network Rail botanist employed to identify and destroy poisonous fungi on the trackbed. The fungus in question is on the trackbed just to the right of walter. It strikes me you may have had a hand in placing it there !

 

Some comments on the 158:
Good job with the simoulated guard! It be great to have it open and close the doors on its own in the future.
I'm happy to see the instrument lights now do come off and the interlock light working as intended, funny, Jane said it would be fixed this time and kinda made flip out.

Just a note, HUD speed limit shows the line speed limit disregarding the train's maximum speed of 90 mph. I'm curious is the AI driving the 158 at speeds above 90mph?

 

No sweat, the least I can do, in case my knowledge isn't as good as I though it is about 7.5 miles north of Leicester!

Haha you can't beat a good old SPAD trap, I must admit there's one inparticular that sticks out to me where if I wanted to I could literally give a countdown as to when it releases, in fact it is really hard not to, though I do manage to resist the temptation and see it as part of the fun. I know what will happen tomorrow now, but touch wood it hasn't caught me yet!

 

Hi Jane, thanks for the amazing patch, I'm really enjoying, feels like another DLC, It's so great, but the rest of the content in the patch will be out tomorrow?

 

Just run the hst at night and there seems to be a lot of white light eminating from the grills on the underframe. Is this correct?

 

To Jane and all the folks at SHG, thank you so much for the MML improvements and your community engagement. Haven’t played TSW in a while but thoroughly enjoying a run in the 158.

 

Yes, I can confirm a “normal” approach into Derby on the 158. Much better

The two main TPWS activations are Mountsorrel down (but it seems to be random) I have regulated my speed to around 85mph through there and not “tripped” the grids but on some I have still, so it’s definitely service dependant I think!

Mountsorrel on the Up, only ever had it once on playing 43 services!

 

Just noticed that the internal lighting appears to do some rather nuclear things to passengers at night in the HST since the patch. I'm sure drivers would love a button to do this at times, but it's probably not strictly within the law...

 

I have a bit of feedback for you guys-
Number 1.
Why this section, it would be better if it was the section from London St Pancras- Corby and we could still have the HST And the 700 and make a 360, I Have posted a thread about it and i thought it would be a better section to do Rather than this one, But thats all i have to say
With all due respect- No discredit To you guys, I personally think you have put in alot of time and effort into making this route, but i thought other members amongst me would enjoy the other section of it.
anyway, here is my thread if u wanna take a look and see what u think or if u can make plans : https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/midland-main-line-london-st-pancras-corby.69796/

 

Thanks for the kind words, Jane!

 

I have just gone and done a 158 service to Derby and oh it is much more what I'd expect on the approach. Also the buzz, buzz (a technical term of course!) is a very nice feature too.

Haha, it would be a button I'd love on friday evenings and when particular events are going on.

 

I didn't think the 360 and HST crossed over with each other, though I may be wrong.

 

With the update comes the dreaded put of video memory pain

 

I also have this issue on PS5 Jane

 

This hud speed limit above train max speed is common throughout all traction. It’s maximum LINE speed. The speed limited kicks in at 93mph anyway so not really an issue

 

Purchased this today based on the patch feedback (and potential of future improvements / content).
Loving it so far and the guard buzzer is a game changer! It's such a simple thing but adds so much to the immersion.

 

I have driven the whole route with a class 158 and HST and all the improvements are noticeable from the physics, sound and additional scenery such as landmarks and amazing new bridges. Some, I may have missed before but noticed Nottingham University Veterinary college when passing through Sutton Bonington both old building and new one and brough back memories of being a cop out there based at East Leake.

With once being called to an incident at East Midlands Parkway where a guy had jumped onto a moving freight train at Long Eaton after an argument with his girlfriend and jumped off on the slow line as it came into EMP sadly his head hitting the rail as he jumped off and in a bad way. The most memorable comment was with four Nott's cops already on the up slow line with BTP on route from Leeds, the station manager asked me as I went over to them, if they should stop the trains!!

 

How many total freight services is MML supposed to have?

 

But is it going the right way? Before this update it was going towards the front of the train, totally against how it should be going

 

Just attempted the 2K29 10.11 Matlock-Newark Castle. Game crashed just entering the speed limit change down to 50 slightly before going via c line just as you approach Nottingham. Ps4 user.

 

Hello Jane pls can you fix the 158 where you diesel smoke come out of train exhaust also can you improve hst aswell pls. I feel gives the trains more immersion pls pls fix my regards Marc.

 

Wrong time period for a 360.

 

Heyyyy, was digging through the route files and found this rather colourful formation tucked away. Any context as to what it is and why its hidden away?

 

As I promised myself, I picked up MML on " patch day ". Looking forward to giving it a good workout tomorrow.

Pleasant surprise: bought the bundle on Steam and the route was at 15% discount, even though I already had the rest of the package.

 

Running 2A25 Nottingham to Matlock.
First off, you're 4 minutes late leaving (at the time you are due into Beeston) due to a red signal for a HST

Also, This AI formation at Attenborough looks.... off?
Although, could be the creators club livery? Edit - delected the livery and it spawns in as a normal service.

 

hi Jane!

sorry i'm on PS4 pro where the sound is an issue, it's only the class 158 where the aws is not audible using external cameras, but if you could possibly fix it so it can be heard when using external cameras again that would be amazing.

also love the additional class 43 services between Derby and Leicester, just ran one last night and the new timetable makes such a difference!

Katia

 

I decided to pick up the route based on the patch, overall is quite lovely (although the ballast still looks very messy to me, asif it’s been spilt over the tracks rather than placed).

I crashed on a 19:00 2K service (will verify specifically which one later), shortly after the C-Line transition going into Nottingham. PS5.

 

I am still seeing speed limit signs not matching where it commences on the HUD and missing signs at crossovers. Maybe these are in the batch of stuff that got omitted. But overall the route is looking busier, better and fun for a quick blast. If only the lighting could be toned down but that has more to do with DTG’s stubbornness over the lighting changes introduced with TSW3 and not wanting to tone it down a bit.

 

On the 'Can't make your mind up' scenario the stop at Spondon does not trigger that you have stopped so you cannot continue to the last stop at Derby to complete the scenario.
This is on PC.

 

Can confirm it does abide the laws of physics lol

 

What are you playing on? I’m on Xbox and have rain in the windows

 

Yep, they've done a great job with the route, it's v nice to drive.

It's just so disappointing they haven't sorted the signalling out. There's a couple of junctions with incorrect approach control ,the 40 x over approaching E Mids from the north and the other when leaving Attenborough for Sheet Stores jn to Derby - plus still some extra AWS pings, especially on the reversible line from Leicester.

Shame really, as surely that stuff would only be a 30 min job, tops, it would be in TSC anyway. Maybe TSW is harder to edit, don't know tbh.

If only we had an editor to sort it ourselves....

 

PC - Steam

 

Yes, that too.

Why this 'bug' is still cropping up on new content in 2023 is mind-boggling. Bugs happen but when its the same bug on at least half a dozen different releases across several years then it becomes tiresome.

 

Can someone please provide the timetable services breakdown?how many total freight services is MML supposed to have?
158?
Thanks