June 7 Update Feedback On Rivet Dlcs

Hi everyone.
I am playing on pc (steam) and I have been playing around with the new patch notes on the routes I own and came across a few issues. I also wanted to know if other platforms are affected as well.

Arosa Line

• Updates to the running and flange audio: I have not noticed any change. It still has the jarring shopping cart sounds on the passenger coaches which are audible in cab. The flange squeal is also similar to before.
• Wheel sparks: These seem to be inconsistent and infrequent, more so than wcl. I did a test in winter storm conditions going from arosa to chur where I sped up and applied emergency brakes to cause wheelslip and possibly sparks. I had no wheelslip from emergency braking, so no sparks. After a while of speeding up and braking, I found sparks which has been very difficult to reproduce frequently. Considering how I drove the locomotive and the weather conditions, I was expecting it to happen quite often. I also found the sparks happening in the first bogie set on the passenger coaches, not the loco.
• I've had a report from a console user that wheel sparks are not occurring at all so could this be looked into?

WCL: Edited

• I also tested for wheel sparks specifically. Same steps as arosaline. I sped up to around 40mph and applied emergency brake while watching the bogies with the cameras. This time where was wheel slipping which caused sparks. I only saw this in snowy weather, not heavy rain or dry conditions.
• also no sparks on consoles

If these could be looked at, it would be great! Jasper_Rivet

Other observations

• I noticed that the 204 no longer subs into other german routes. I liked using this shunter even if it was not realistic.
• Nice work on luzern-sursee: better timetable, horn bug finally fixed, slightly better performance

 

Wait, they've finally improved the 204 and then reduced the opportunities to drive it? That makes zero sense.

Like you I've always enjoyed taking it out despite its failings and was looking forward to driving it more.

 

yup, that is what im getting. I have all german dlc and noticed it was missing from other timetables. Even selecting from the loco menu only gives msb.

 

I also realized i posted in the wrong thread. DTG Alex DTG JD could you move this to technical reports?

 

Just tested the BR204 on PS5 and also had to realize that all layers for other German routes are gone. Probably because the second BR204 version was deleted and this was the version specially created to be layered on other routes. It's a pity and that's calling for a patch to be patched again. Nevertheless the physics update is a step in the right direction, unfortunately the paintability in the Livery Designer is still missing. Anyway thanks to Rivet for the big patch and greetings to Jasper!

 

Reading in other threads the 1938 stock audio has finally been addressed. Can someone confirm we now get track running sound especially when coasting, and a traction motor winding down sound when braking?

 

What, in God's name, did you do to the BR110 brakes on LFR?! Brake "Minimum" is like throwing an ancor?!

 

They haven't touched the physics of the 110 according to the patch notes

 

Ah yes, the patch notes. The same that tells you the OHLE has been fixed for "Cold Steel", yet you discover that the BR 110 continues to be what would possibly be the first E-Lok with a last mile feature. And that patch note that won't tell you about the elimination of all BR 204 layers on german routes, that one, right?! And now with nuclear head and tail lights at MSB.
Drive that scenario on LFR and use the brakes
This just can't be prototypical, especially when you push the brakes to the next stages and compare.
And if this hasn't been touched, then it should be touched asap.

Hmmmm, but ...
"Improvements to DB Shimmns-u 708 and DB Tadgs 959 physics and brakes, ensuring trains are capable of departing and can stop within a reasonable..."

Your faith in DTG patches is admIrable, I give you that.

Me? They give me goose bumps every time they announce one.

 

Wrong thread to report this issue, Linke Rheinstreke isn’t a rivet product.

 

I believe it still is going by the patch notes, just slightly changed.


Luzern-Sursee
RABe 523

• Rounded timetable to nearest minute

 

I see. Haven't really played a whole lot so can't say for certain but I like the new timings better than the original timings

 

I was under the impression that the brakes were strong to begin with. I have done a bit of testing on a passenger, freight run and a scenario and I don't recognize a change. It has the same braking force as before at 0.7 on the bc. I did notice it felt a bit stronger in the scenario, but if they made changes to the physics for the 110, it would have to affect timetabled services as well which it didn't.

 

I was hoping the Ge 4/4 jerky start of moving would've been fixed, but it's still present. Disappointing.

 

Is anyone else having issues with this for the 483 on IOW? AI services aren't running with any lights at all since the update

• Headlights should function correctly on AI services

 

Right, it is the wrong thread indeed.
Just in short, BC pressure goes to 0.7bar - sure there you´re right - but the corresponding decelaration is from another planet. Accelerometer goes negative half way of its scale and it feels like an emergency brake?! I´ve driven quite a lot of services on LFR, pax and freight, and I´d venture to say that the 110´s brake force was overdone alreay, but not THIS strong. Either are other (even more modern freight locos like the 185) wrong on there brake behaviour or the BR 110 is way off here. I believe the latter ..

Ah well, back to Rivet screw ups now.

 

There is now a running sound, and it's quite nice tbh - but no motor sounds when braking unless I missed the fact that rheo is disabled somewhere.

 

Okay, thanks. Might still pick it up in a sale but not at full price. Classic Rivet fudge-fix, it seems.

 

My 1938 stood in the depot for a long time and waited for corrections. Yesterday I made two trips and was very pleasantly surprised by the new mix of sounds. It may not be ideal, but overall I'm satisfied with everything. I like this train. I will spend a lot of time with him.

 

Shame if the shopping trolley sounds haven't been fixed on Arosa, that was the thing keeping me from purchasing it. The 1938 stock is still tempting though.

 

Jasper_Rivet I find the BR 204 ok so far. Unfortunately, you only hear rolling noises (rail joints, etc.) when you drive forward. (by forward I mean the direction the locomotive has when you look at the map)

 

Yes it’s just so atmospheric, the 3D model is really excellent, as I’ve remarked previously, you can almost smell the hot Bakelite. So if it’s going for £6 in the summer sale I shall grab it and enjoy.

 

Great to see Rivet have been working on WCL. I hope next that they will now correct all the scenery anomalies too.

 

Considering the length of time it takes Rivet to do anything + the fact the haven’t fixed some important bugs that prevent services being completed in other routes. It might be more effective to ask for Cornwall to be remodelled to match the route.

 

I agree but that’s too much work for Rivet, they will never do that or want to. It wouldn’t take that long to correct the scenery issues, I have mentioned in the past to make the route look more authentic.

 

I will say, I never expected a physics patch for the 204. Based on what we were told, it's essentially an unfixable mess that would necessitate starting over. I'll give it a try when I have time.

 

It's strange, you can't select 204 on other routes but yesterday I saw it doing a service as an AI on BRO.

As for Arosa I like that the snow is now accumulating on the windows, it gives it a better ambience in winter. And it's also appreciated that they've lowered the volume of the windscreen wipers.
On the downside, once again they haven't taken advantage of the update to include ambient sounds. It's strange that DTG hasn't told them to implement them once and for all, because it's the only route in TSW that doesn't have these sounds, DTG JD could you do something about this please?

I didn't have time to try other Rivet routes and about the updates to the DTG routes I'll comment in another thread.

 

Even if it's off topic to my post, I did notice the accelerometer go negative half way for the cold steel scenario but it only went around 25% for the timetable services.

 

Jasper_Rivet sorry for tagging you again, but I wanted to let you know I updated my original post after some further testing

 

Hello all,

i don’t know what’s happened but I’ve tried to replicate the sparks and I can’t even do that as I’m getting no wheelslip whatsoever

post edit,
Forgot to say I’m on an Xbox series X

 

i am

 

...but it was one of the best bugs ever in TSW. The BR204 or V100 Ost is one of the most frequently built German diesel locomotives with over 1140 units. Only seeing her in MSB is a bit of a shame. Of course the BR363 also has cult status, but the substitution with the BR204 was a real enrichment of the loco selection. With 1500 hp, it's also more powerful than the BR363, which is why the transfer freight trains, whether around Munich, Hamburg or Dresden, were a highlight for fans of the locomotive, where it could use its maximum engine power. Especially now that the physics update is out, it makes all the more sense to see her on other routes as well.

So it would be great if this bug would be reintroduced again!

 

The class 150 flange squeal on WCL is still horrendous. Please tell me where you’ll ever hear anything that in the real world.

 

Judging by all the posts about how poor WCL is I doubt things will get any better anytime soon. I got the update yesterday but having been on to try it as I’ve stopped using WCL because of the problems. We can live in hope, I suppose.

 

They didn't touch that in yesterday's update. Only notch 3 sounds, tsw3 effects and something with the fuel cap

 

Such a shame the 204 substitution is removed. Subbing in for other shunters was nice given it only has 7 services on MSB, plus it was a nice treat to see it doing the occasional mainline freight run. I also enjoyed the chaos of running it from Aachen to Koln, just barely managing to keep up to 100km/h, checking the PIS at each station I passed to see how many minutes delay the ICE stuck behind me was up to.

 

Late running is so much more fun!

 

On Luzern my female driver is absolutely knackered after now spending over a year unable to sit down and looking like she is doing star jumps in the cab of the train.

Please, please let her rest.

 

Lol I don’t own this route but could be tempted to get it based on the star jumps view !

 

caught in 4k?


Nevertheless: Wasn’t the T-posing bug fixed a while ago? Because my driver hasn’t got the problem

 

I haven't seen this, I shall fire Luzern up tonight as see if I can find it.

Maybe we should start a show "TSW NPC's have got talent"!

 

Aw, you put me off it again now. I thought it was on everyone’s version lol

 

unfortunately not- maybe only with female drivers?

 

Thanks JD

 

Sorry for the late reply, been off last week and just had the time to look into this.
Glad to see that the sound update on the 1938 stock was so well received.

Have also logged the remaining issues on the 204, Arosa Line, Isle of Wight and the Class 150/2 in our bug-tracking system, will let you know once I know something new. Thanks a ton for sharing these, much appreciated!

 

Well there is still the "slight" issue of AI trains not emitting any sound at all. Would be obliged if this could be looked at, with a view to purchasing in the summer sale.

 

AI trains also don't display head/tail lights correctly on the 1938 Stock.

 

Has the sound on the 150 been fixed yet does anyone know