Summer Big Three Sweepstake

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  1. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Beat you to the leak? :cool:
     
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  2. mattwild55

    mattwild55 Well-Known Member

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    This is very convincing, particularly given the 'next stop BaWu' signs that were found on Niddertalbahn which would fit with this area (Bregenz is just over the Austrian border from Baden-Wuerttemberg state).
     
  3. nwp1

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    OMG Matt if only. Would accept all that.

    Love your Australian and Indian suggestions, but would prefer Festiniog to offer more playability for a Narrow Gauge route or if you didn’t add a Narrow Gauge, the Severn Valley would be a lovely UK route, gorgeous scenery and lovely stations.
     
  4. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    My guesses, rather than wishes:
    UK | Liverpool - Manchester (via Warrington)
    Class 195, 185 + 158 layer

    Germany | Hamburg - Hannover
    ICE-fest + all the other stuff

    US | NEC: New York - New Haven

    UK | WCML South
    DE | Hamburg - Hannover
    US | Don't Care
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    FR | Paris - Lille LGV

     
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  5. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Looking at the Builder plate of the diesel multiple unit it should say Pesa Bromberg because German speakers cannot pronounce the Polish name correctly therefore the manufacturer would simply be referred to Pesa Bromberg. Need a route for it Niddertalbahn Bad Vilbel Glauburg-Stockheim modern with Rhein-Main Verkehrsverbund decals. which is familiar to a train Sim classic owner who has S-Bahn Rhein-Main Friedberg.
     
  6. MAX1319

    MAX1319 Well-Known Member

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    Those are good routes. I do wonder NEC NY- New haven... that's a long route with lots of stations (37), 73 miles . .... That would be great. Not sure if Amtrak would be playable as I would think they would have to include Penn station for a complete run.......
     
  7. Blacknred81

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    Depends on how much scenery they want to reuse from NEC:New York/NYT and the Harlem line, at least stock is mostly accounted for (ACS-64,Acela, Metro Norths stock.) So the only real new stock needed are M8s and/or P32AC-DMs with Shoreliners. Also the return of Oak Point yard for CSX.
     
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  8. gogglesguy

    gogglesguy Well-Known Member

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    When I'm thinking Big Three it has to be:

    - Orient Express (London - Istanbul) (with bonus whodunnit crime mystery)
    - Trans-Siberian Railway
    - The Canadian (Toronto - Vancouver)
     
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  9. mickelmickle

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    Germany :Frankfurt to Mannheim
    UK : London Kings Cross to Peterborough
    USA : Baltimore to Washington Union
     
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  10. Javelin

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    Or they could just do NY Penn - New Haven and have the M8 playable between New Rochelle and New Haven.
     
  11. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    The lack of a MARC license would probably kill the chance of that area of the NEC ever coming to TSW.
     
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  12. josh1975

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    My guess is 2 new routes and another extension TOD4 updated route.

    The UK route something that the Class 700/0 will run on.

    US route I'm hoping passenger. A new NJT, LIRR, Metro North, or MBTA route would be nice. If freight then Tehachapi Pass, or Kicking Horse Pass in Canada.

    And the German route Dresden Reisa extended to Purna and Leipzig. Or perhaps S2 to the airport and Lepzig.
     
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  13. mkraehe#6051

    mkraehe#6051 Well-Known Member

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    Nope, Niddertalbahn is run with class 642 DMUs. The 633 runs on the Dreieichbahn, Frankfurt -- Dreieich-Buchschlag -- Rödermark-Ober-Roden -- Dieburg.

    A 642 would be a really nice addition to the game though, if only to fill up the timetable between Dresden Hbf and Dresden Neustadt even further.
     
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  14. antony.henley

    antony.henley Well-Known Member

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    So for me my guess(es) would be for UK

    WCML South (to Brum) current day
    ECML Newcastle - York (including Tees Valley AI extension) set in early 1980's

    Brand new Paddington - Oxford via Didcot (mainly as I want to scream a HST or 800 over the viaduct at Reading lol plus other reasons.

    Eastleigh - Poole with 444s / 450

    German

    Anything I like most German routes.

    US

    Oakville extension (what it could happen, look at SEHS!!)

    All new Electric Penn Corridor with added extension to the few stations they issued off from the original route.

    Tehachapi loop

    Regards
    Hentis
     
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  15. Blacknred81

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    Doubt it, I don't think DTG has a GO license so extending it would be pointless for freight only. The Baby Bullet layer is an exception to the license rule.

    Why would DTG add a route that hasn't even ran a revenue train yet? Caltrain is still testing their systems and still hasnt put the KRISS Vectors in service yet.

    Meh, only main problem is the single track routing and close proximity to Cajon Pass. And would DTG make playable layers for BNSF traffic on the route (If set in Modern times)?
    (Not to mention I would nit pick the route to death since its the closest route to me.)
     
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  16. smugstarlord#4202

    smugstarlord#4202 Well-Known Member

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    If there was a big summer release wouldn't it of been mentioned by now, as we are in summer?
     
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  17. OldVern

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    I don’t see it as being Tehachapi. As stated too close to Cajon, unless the plan is to merge the two at some point a la Run 8. And of course if you own Run 8 as I’m sure many of us PC users do anyway, then other than nicer graphics their version of Tehachapi with the added Arvin, Buttonwillow and Oak Creek branches would take some beating.
     
  18. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Oh this is all based on assumption but they have got to be working on something big. The last in house UK release was PFR a couple of months ago, Glossop hardly counts more of a short sketch done by the intern. The Rhine route for Germany precedes PFR as does NYT. It would be surprising in deed if there is not some sort of big summer release (bear in mind we are technically still in Spring for another 4 days), just that the PR lead in seems much shorter these days.
     
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  19. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    TSW3 was announced in August last year, so most likely to be July/August this time round.
     
  20. Javelin

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    We might find out more in the July roadmap.
     
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  21. yansel#5383

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    Considering you have Matt and JD themselves joining in this thread I would say it is basically confirmed. Would you add to the hype like this and then tell people it wont happen? An interesting marketing strategy indeed.

    Also, don't they tend to be clear about what is not coming like during the streams when people ask questions is x going to be included in a route?
     
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    hyperlord Well-Known Member

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    Oh is that so? Cute indeed
     
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    The only civilised way of determining the seasons is the meterological way, which says Summer starts on June 1st.
     
  24. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    How about, for the US, the Hudson Valley Water Level Route? So-so with Amtrak, better as a vintage New York Central route, back when it was four-tracked and they were running F9s or streamlined Hudsons.

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  25. Shackamaxon

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    LOL Matt !

    Good luck with getting the license for DHR / IR :D

    My guess would be -

    US - NYC Subway / Chicago 'L' ( any line )
    UK - Piccadilly Line
    DE - Heart of Berlin / Frankfurt U-Bahn
     
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  26. Calidore266

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    That's how it works in Chicago, where the beaches open after Memorial Day and close after Labor Day.
     
  27. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    I'll take an astronomer over a meteorologist every time. They're wrong far less often.
     
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  28. Der Uni

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    I dont think DTG will drop a Big Summer Release. But if so...

    Me as a German:

    --UK--
    All is very Welcome to me, so i'm most hyped for UK Content.

    --Germany--
    I dont have any Suggestions for German Content. Its always the same.

    --US--
    "Stevens Pass" for TSW would be really cool to me. Since i dont spent too much time with US Content... but if i can Haul these Boeing 737 Fuselages through the Mountains, i would spend more Time with this US Route.
     
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  29. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for telling me about that however they need different transport tariffs Association decals Dresden Verkehrsverbund Oberelbe Niddertalbahn Rhein Main Verkehrsverbund the RMV logo is familiar to TSC owners since it has the electrified section of Niddertalbahn Frankfurt am Main Hbf Bad Vilbel.
     
  30. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    I always used to fancy the Orient Express from London but can't really see DTG doing it justice but then I do remember seeing something they are getting rid of the London leg of the Orient Express, could be wrong.
     
  31. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    The Orient Express ran from Paris to Constantinople from 1889 to 1977, although from 1945 to 1962 the train itself only ran as far as Belgrade, with transfers required to Istanbul. Between 1977 and 1991 it terminated at Bucharest, and thereafter Budapest; in 2001 it was shortened again to Vienna; in 2007 the origin was moved from Paris to Strasbourg, and this very truncated train still used the "Orient Express" name but used ordinary SNCF rolling stock. It all ended in 2009.

    Beginning in 1930 sleeper cars originating in Calais were attached to the Arlberg Orient Express train in Paris; Britons could buy tickets "from London" but those involved a Southern train to Folkestone (in 1st class, naturally), and then the ferry; or, alternatively, from 1936-1939 a CIWL train using the night rail ferry to Gare du Nord (where passengers transferred to the OE). But there was never a time when one could board a train at Victoria and ride it all the way to Turkey. The idea that the OE originated in London is due (a) to Agatha Christie, who fudged reality, and (b) the "heritage" Simplon Orient Express which started in the 1980s with vintage carriages (mostly refurbed British Pullmans), and still runs today for awesome amounts of money.
     
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  32. Javelin

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    Not wrong unfortunately, Vsoe are scraping the London - Folkestone leg of the Orient Express :(
     
  33. pogodoyle#7387

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    Anything in Berlin would be great, but the S-Bahn Ring would be perfect in my book
     
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    67, you mean? That’d be a fun route
     
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    Another great idea - that’s my local route Add in the Swindon - Gloucester and Gloucester - Bristol legs to complete the triangle, that’d be brilliant fun. Could add the Diesel Legends Western into the mix for some old school thrashes too…
     
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  36. pogodoyle#7387

    pogodoyle#7387 Well-Known Member

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    At the risk of being labelled a spammer, one last post for now… I’d LOVE to see an old AC electric in TSW. Probably my favourite route in TSC is WCML Over Shap - I’d absolutely love to see it brought to TSW! I’d settle for an 86 or 87, but a good bouncy 83 would be the icing on the cake.

    Throw an 84 in there and there’d be plenty of scope for a scenario to have it rescued by a 40 or 47 :)
     
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  37. AirbourneAlex

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    For the UK at least, I don't think it will be backdated (we've had Peak Forest already this year and Just Trains' upcoming route will be historic). It's unlikely to be a secondary commuter route (we've had Cross-City and Glossop two in a row) or anything southern region (unless it was some sort of BML-ECW mega merge).

    ECML South seems feasible now we have the Class 387 and Class 700, requiring a Class 801 at minimum to bulk out a suitable timetable. Even MML South could happen (with possibly the Class 222) but that to me has less appeal compared to the ECML, especially as we've just got a MML section for Skyhook to represent that main line in-game.

    WCML South would be fantastic but that simply seems like too big a project right now, as so many new things would need to be built for one route DLC. Other sections such as the Trent Valley or Shap Summit could happen but for the most part they do not include any end-to-end services and again would require multiple pieces of new stock to flesh out a semi-decent timetable.

    Or there's a wildcard option of getting another diesel route, personally I'm hoping such would contain a Class 170 Turbostar on a route like Edinburgh to Dundee/Fife Circle or the Harrogate Loop. Then again DTG have been sort of unpredictable lately, announcing routes like Peak Forest and Glossop which I'd imagine very few people guessed correctly.
     
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  38. pessitheghost

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    If an ECML south does come, I hope DTG add at least one branch, whether it is to Kings Lynn, The Moorgate Branch or the Hertford loop
     
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    With the introduction of steam, i think it should be the historical route though.
     
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  40. OldVern

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    Think I would go for Harlem. If you can dodge the AI snarl ups it's s good run and the rolling stock is good, too apart from the minor issue of the pilot/obstacle deflector scraping the track on one of the trains. Deserves to go a bit further.

    For Germany, well Hagen really should run through to Siegen, per the original KRS route all those years ago. However wouldn't say no to something like the Wuppertal route getting another 30km or as postulated previously, Dresden to Riesa getting its branches or an extension to Leipzig.

    However that's getting perilously close to wishlist territory rather than the original theme of, what do we think DTG are up to!
     
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  41. Crosstie

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    Well, much as I would like to see Harlem extended to Southeast, DTG have said that extensions In and of themselves are not financially viable. But they could redo the entire route and add the extra stations, then offer an upgraded route more or less for free to existing owners as part of a package as they did with SEHS.

    It's unlikely.

    I would rather see a revamped/refurbished LIRR, with upgraded signals, scenery and timetable.

    What's most likely, I think, is a new freight route, possibly an NS coal route.

    Personally, as long as we get the real NYT ( as opposed to the chimera we have presently ), I won't care if there isn't a new US route.
     
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  42. Matin_TSP

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    Sorry, but no, I disagree. This confirms nothing. It's nice to have some fun messages of DTG officials on threads, but if people start to interpret this behaviour as "confirming" the thread title while completely ignoring what exactly was the said in the answers, it will maybe decrease the amount of "fun" communication by said employees. And we don't want that. I'd rather want to know what locos Matt wants for the darjeeling line :D
     
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  43. coursetim

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    I'd love a Southern Steam/Transition UK route as I always bang on about. :D Schools or a Bulleid Pacific belting down the mainline. Hell even something with a crossover with some of the LMS stock already in like SDR. Although thats a wishlist.

    If I'm really honest though I can see UK being some sort of ECML route or something similar, seems like they're adding the stock for it imo as others have pointed out we are getting a bit of a network. I wouldn't be against it but I do prefer historic content, hence why I'm waiting on JT and that sceptically unofficially announced pack mentioned on the roadmap for what I assume is PFR
     
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  44. Blacknred81

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    A modern day Hudson line would probably be more probable, but only in the similar sector that was done for TSC, from Grand Central and NYP to Croton-Harmon. The M7A would probably be reused from Harlem or subbed in (Unsure if the M3's run here) The P32AC-DM would be the new loco for the route (Both Amtrak and Metro North). New Shoreliner cars would need to be made, while Amtrak's equipment would just reuse the old Amfleets for the Empire Service and LSL (Though it would be nice to get proper Viewliners for the Lake Shore Limited) The Amtrak P32's would also have their unique Phase III Empire Service Paint (Which wasn't included in TSC) While the Metro North P32's could have the option of their New Haven and their newest "Beachball" Heritage Units along side their normal paint.

    If there is any change I want to see to the route, it would be having the route extend to CSX's Oak Point yard along the NEC, so at least freight operations can run from the Hudson Line to there full stop (Unlike Harlem where they are just briefly seen.)
    marblehillhist9.jpg

    One interesting scenario if DTG ever does add the Hudson line, is one where it simulates the short time Amtrak had their trains run to Grand Central due to work at Penn.
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  45. cloudyskies21

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    If it were ever ECML South, along with the 700/0, DTG must also have to include the 700/1 because these operate the Horsham-Peterborough services - moreover, with the addition of a /1 I hope it means a possibility for a TOD 4 updated London Commuter too.
     
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    I'd love to see HRR extended. Why? Because the current route between Duisburg to Bochum feels busy with lots of rolling stock, but is let down somewhat due to being woefully short in length - especially frustrating when you have lots of services for the awesome 101, but they are so quick! Thus, what the route should have been was Dusseldorf to Dortmund at minimum - plus HRR, along with a few other German routes, also need ICE services.

    Picture taken by me
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    The magnificent ICE2 at Dusseldorf
     
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    I do feel some of the German routes could be longer, they often don't make sense to me. HRR and RRO in particular. RSN stops in the middle and should have gone on to Siegen in my opinion, that would have been quite a long route I know.

    Also Munich to Augsburg is missing the final few miles from what I can gather, of the S Bahn services which I don't understand why.
     
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  48. jolojonasgames

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    Yeah, I also feel the same. I've actually also made extension suggestions (in the form of a re-release like SEHS) for Ruhr-Sieg Nord and Hauptstrecke Rhein-Ruhr, if you'll forgive the self promotion :)

    I think these two German routes could benefit the most from an extension. Dresden-Riesa could of course be extended to Leipzig, but the route is already one of the best as is, so for me there is no need for an upgrade (unless it also merges with Rapid Transit, giving that route acces to Leipzig Hbf's upper tracks and a much needed upgrade). RRO is just a difficult case, as it is short and could use an upgrade, but the question would be where to extend it. Extending to Köln would be possible, but would not provide much more S-bahn content and really would require new rolling stock aswell.
     
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  49. solicitr

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    Well, "final kilometer:" for some reason the eastbounds all terminate at Hackerbrücke rather than continuing on a few hundred meters to the Hauptbahnhof underground platforms. If you mean the eastern S-Bahn routes out to Freising, the airport etc, that's way more than "a few miles."
     
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    Sorry Kilometres although I hadn't realised it was just one. Why they didn't go that extra KM then is strange.
     

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