Upcoming Release Glossop Line: Manchester – Hadfield & Glossop Coming Soon!

I would have to disagree with that, it is of course not any sort of full time loyalty discount, but it’s a discount on the basis of the similarities between the 2 routes (due to the stock) and like the IOW the second iteration was cheaper due to the similarities to the first.

 

This route said to be.
$24.99 (US) dollars
€22.83 (GR) euros
£19.56 (UK) gbp
If this is right,then not getting a 10% discount is easier to deal with.It could be worse this dlc could have been full price.
$39.99
€36.52
£31.30
This is assuming the conversion rates are even close to steady semi offen.

 

DTG dlc don’t use conversion rates they’re to prone too change constantly.

£19.99 (With Tax) for Glossop no discount
£17.99 (With Tax) for Glossop discount due to BCC
£29.99 (With Tax) current usual route price

 

In fairness I don’t think many customers would pay £29.99 for this or even the old standard price of £24.99.

 

I blame overused VAT tbh, current price is about £24.99 without it.

 

Yes we tend to forget that 20% of our hard earned spending money and the seller’s income goes to the government.

 

In fairness I don't think many customers would pay £29.99 for this let alone the old £24.99 if they new what a technical filled mess they just might be buying.

 

Wasn't Kassel - würzburg far to long and plus maybe even from York will be good.

 

As well I feel like we need a new long route maybe set in the uk, and seeing as Manchester Piccadilly has been added. It gives Dovetail Games a great opportunity for many routes like Redcar Central to Manchester.

 

And it will be brilliant to see new trains like the tpe class 185.

 

Yes, Kassel - Würzburg was a very long route (116 miles I believe) you also have to consider that that route only had 3 stations and the route itself was either going through mainly either tunnels or countryside.

A route of the same length with more stations going through more densely populated areas would take significantly longer to develop unfortunately.

 

Kassel Wurzburg wasn’t really too long, it’s a real route which I personally enjoy

 

Wait isn't the TGV route similar but only about half as long?

 

It did list the dlc you need. It didn't specify if it will be next gen or not so it's going to be all platforms.

 

Agreed. People moan when there aren't any incentives. So DTG give away free DLC and it causes forum members to moan, they offer a discount, albeit small, to previous customers and it causes people to moan again! I do think it is a shame that some PS players are denied it.

Anyway this sucker would have bought it at £20. it is nice to get a couple of pounds off, which makes it even better.

 

That's why in the US, sales tax is in addition to the marked price. Many (especially European visitors) find it annoying, but it's a live reminder that the Gov is skimming its vig with every purchase.

 

As a European (England) I think the American tax system is terrible and a quite frankly a scam in itself

if the price tag says a certain amount that shouldn’t then go up when I reach a checkout/till.

I’m sure it goes per county as well not just per state, I would find that terribly unfair for those in say Yorkshire to pay more than those in Northumbria for example.

Then theirs the whole file your own tax, pay extra to find out how much you owe ? If the Governments demands it so much, the least they can do is say how much…

that’s my take on the different systems.

 

I'm not sure I agree with your initial premise. The sticker price is what the merchant wants for the item, and receives for it. What the government leeches from the transaction goes to the government. I don't see any deception involved. What is deceptive, in my view, is hiding HMG's cut within the marked price.

As to the rest: state and local taxes are imposed by elected state and local governments. This is called "democracy."

 

In my opinion, the Glossop line will just be the right amount of play time which most players prefer. It's a route which is a 'chill evening drive'/ 'got some spare' time to play, kinda route, which I think a lot of players will appreciate.

In comparison to Birmingham Cross City, you arrive at Birmingham New Street I think 'ugh, I've STILL got half the route left to go and drive', which can make it feel like a bit of a drag sometimes when playing it.

 

Well, everybody knows there will be a sales tax added at checkout, so no mystery there. And not all merchandise is taxed at the same rate. Food and drugs are usually much lower than, say, video games. The actual percentage compares very well with VAT, from what I know.

Each state has its own sales tax rate because each state delivers a different " basket " of services. New York's rate is around 8-9%, llinois 10%, California is higher I believe, and Michigan is lower. City dwellers generally pay more than country folk.

Plus, you get to deduct all that sales tax from your Federal income tax.

No, you don't have to pay to find out how much you owe. The IRS will figure it out for you for free if you ask them. Of course, most of us do our own taxes because we'll usually pay less that way. Some of us use software to do the figuring and others pay professionals. But you don't have to. There are lots of free services that will do it for you.

 

In Ireland, as is in the rest of the EU, all receipts show how much VAT was included in the price. It's not deceptive. Maybe post-Brexit-UK has different rules, no idea.

 

I suppose it will be the Harlem line of the UK. I did a (nearly) all stations run from White Plains into NYCGCT yesterday evening and was surprised the net time between two sessions was over an hour. Yet I will freely admit to being one of those who joined in the criticism that the route should have been longer. Well, yes, of course it should but as it stands you still get a fairly long drive time. Of course that 10 MPH for nearly three quarters of a mile into GCT inflates the running time a bit, but even so…

 

Same with WSR, short mileage but some of the longest service run-times in the game.

Quantity does not always equal quality playtime.

 

Theirs been no change to the system.

Though in all honesty I don’t think people ever find a need to check it, maybe some have a curiosity to see it at times (as it states the price if their was no VAT, and one can live and hope it was actually the original price) but that’s about it.

but best to keep this thread on topic of Glossop, I didn’t really realise Visual Tax would be such a dividing topic

 

I often find myself searching about for 20-minute services (and the quick play routine is currently borked). So a short route would be welcome.

 

The RailfanTV schedule for the Week Beginning June 19th is available.
The preview stream will be next thursday 19:00 BST, 20:00 CEST.

 

That’s good. Both streams this week were cancelled I believe as I couldn’t find them.

 

Or Manchester Picc to Sheffield. Then they can add the section to Derby to link up with Skyhook’s MML. Then they can link to the Peak Forest line, at least to Matlock in modern day. No, that would be much too difficult. Oh wait, JT have already done this (and more) in TSC.

 

Quick play needs a bit of refinement for sure. I certainly think you should be able to specify more parameters, it should give you a choice of (say) three runs rather than just dropping you in it, so to speak or you should have an option to reject the run and have it pick another before loading. However I have had some good runs from it, on occasion and led me back to the routes I rarely play.

 

To be honest, I'm not much of a fan of smaller length routes in TSW which have mostly just shorter services because if you've got more time at say, the weekends, then such a route can get repetitive very quickly. I think the best compromise is to have larger routes with busy timetables that feature a plethora of both short and long services which can please everyone - London Commuter and SEHS are superb examples of such.

 

I wouldn't mind shorter routes if they are complete routes. If I have two hours to spend and the longest end-to-end service takes about 50 mins, a complete route means that I can change ends and come back to fill the time as many times as I want. However, if the route is incomplete (and trains go off-map) then I would much rather a longer route with optional shorter services.

Since Glossop line appears to be a complete route, it should be fine for me.

 

That is how I feel, I love being able to change ends and drive the return service and maybe even do the same again if I feel like it.

 

The current problem is simply that the one parameter, "under 30 minutes," doesn't work. Frequently it has dumped me into two-hour Cane Creek services.

 

Or if you've forgotten to exclude it, the wretched Training Centre.

 

Ah yes the Training Centre, apart from some mastery rewards it seems to have become another forgotten "DTG jewel"in their crown. Every single training run is the same, Run the passenger service around a circle, for the freight run, drive the loco half a mile, attach to some wagons, drive it a few yards, detach, end of training.

 

I've never been to the Training Center.

 

The same scenario could be applied to real life in many situations. Remember that those people also started off where you are

 

They're ambassadors so they get access to the dlc early. Appreciate that you have viewers or subscribers

 

Some of those people with tons of subscribers have worked really hard to get those subs. Not saying that you don't or anyone else that isnt an Ambassador. The reason why we had the early access wass to ensure there is a lot of content or livestreams from the Ambassador's so that people get an overall perspective of the varied content that's available on the route and for people to make their minds up.on whether they will buy or not buy.

Hentis

 

Since the definition of an " Ambassador " is a representative or promoter of the host company, you can't really claim to be objective. The few times I've watched a preview from an ambassador, I didn't hear anything different from the PR I might hear on a regular company stream, no real critique of a route and bugs generally glossed over.
Not sure that I've watched any of yours. Is it worth a look?
Am I right that you only review UK content?

 

I cant seem to find this info anywhere I wonder if anyone could help me, are the layers on this route on next gen only? DTG JD I wonder if you could answer this thanks!

 

Haven't heard that they are, and given there's only two assets on the route (323 and 158) I don't see any reason why there would be a restriction

 

I've seen freight and an EMT HST also on streams, wasnt the sehs timetable updated with freight but last gen never got it, or the freight layers on London commuter. Understandable due to console limitations there's a few layers missing here and there but just couldn't find any info about this route.

 

Mine are just how I see them, as a player would. You can tell me if thats not the case. I would have had to change my style a lot if the above were really the case.

 

BML yes, SEHS I don't think so

 

Sorry who were the questions aimed at Crosstie?

Hentis

 

Ambassadors have their own channels to report any bugs they find while playing.

I've watched many hentis streams and he will point out bugs and acknowledge them if brought up in the chat and he experiences it. Many issues are immersion breaking but not gamebreaking where it prevents you from playing at all.

Each ambassador has their own definition of what's good and bad but they will not say it is perfect because there's no such thing as perfect

 

Thanks JD

 

I find that certain ambassadors do a better job than others with regards to showing honest opinions regarding content and not just doing a sales pitch. I remember watch one stream where an ambassador was saying something about not wanting to be negative about the product.

I do find Dadrail, Hentis and TrainSimulatorDrivers content to be particularly open minded and fairly honest too which is nice!

And although not an Ambassador (I don't think?) I find Train Sim TV to be a good channel for TSW at the moment also (which gives me more hope for the JT content)