Why? If not do the route in the intercity or BR Blue era but the new units on the line I find rather ugly and disgusting and they just don't make me want to drive them.
I think they would. I've had dealings with their marketing manager and have a contact in their press office. They're open to new commercial ideas and are very proud of their new fleet. ATS are doing their flagship units, the Stadler Flirts for TSC after all.
I'm surprised if Greater Anglia would not allow it. Their branding at statIons and trains suggests a company proud of what they do and recognise the lines heritage. Would prefer it to be the older stock though such as 321s. Or set in Network SouthEast days with some slam door stock
Early eighties would be good but perhaps just to Ipswich and Clacton with the primary traction Class 47s and Class 309s. You'd have to put in another EMU though, the route would look really odd with just those two. Even if it's just a 315. We've got a 313 for the Colchester-Walton service too.
You're winning me over a First Great Eastern/Anglia Railways version would be superb. 86s on the Anglia services, 315,312,321s on suburban duties. Then when Class 90s, 170s and 360s arrive in TSW there could be a transition layer from those fondly remembered last days before National Express ruined everything in 2004.
The Class 360s are used on other lines now aren't they? So if GEML (I think it will latest 2026 come to TSW4) comes in the railcars class 360s can be used on other routes.....
Yes, they moved to the Midland Main Line for use on the Corby to St. Pancras service in the second half of 2020. The 5 Heathrow Connect units were scrapped and I think some passengers on the Midland wished the former Greater Anglia fleet was scrapped too, reliability has plummeted since the move across to the MML and their First Great Eastern interiors are 20 years old now and showing their age.
The Shinkansen Bullet train in Japan also has 3 and 2 abreast seating..... This was 3 years ago. They retired this year? So they go to Leicester now?
From Norwich? Not London? So what goes to Norwich/Ipswich now? Class 720s? The 745s look good, Do you like them? I am quite happy for the same equipment in the TSC 2013 version of GEML to Ipswich, or hopefully Norwich.
745's go all the way to Norwich, 720's go as far as Ipswich. 745's: I absolutely love them. 720's: I think there alright, not to great but not terrible either.
Maybe before the modern DLC content we should get the original TSC 2013 content in. The GEML route to Ipswich at least seems to be in high demand!! Would it be more popular than SE Highspeed?
Fully support this idea-Eastern region content is needed. Fun Fact- Recently GA have been double and triple heading 755s on the Norwich-London services due to shortages of 745s
The original plan was to supplement the 10 745/0s on the 12 London to Norwich diagrams with 720s and a smattering of 745/1s running in service to and from Norwich on maintenance runs. But then, for reasons, GA decided not to train Norwich drivers on 720s. Luckily there's a lot of slack in the 755 fleet so they now have some diagrammed services down to London.
Fully support this suggestion. The GEML is my local mainline so it would be great to have an East Anglian route in Train Sim World.
Agreed, but would selfishly request the Clacton/Walton branch rather than the Braintree line. Give those 720s a proper work-out.
Haha explain why! Is it longer? Single line??? I'd love both!!! Wouldn't mind paying £5 more either!!
When BR extended electrification north of Chelmsford in the late fifties/early sixties they took the wires up to Colchester then, rather than the obvious option of continuing up to Ipswich or even Norwich, they wired-up the twin-track branch to Clacton and the single-track branch from Thorpe-Le-Soken to Walton-on-the-Naze. So Britain's first ever service under 25kv energy and the UK's first ever 100mph electric units (Class 309s) provided a state-of-the-art express train, with a buffet service, to a seaside destination that was already in decline at a time when few commuted from outer Essex into the city. Not that it wasn't appreciated by us natives on the Tendring Peninsula but how this high-speed electric project got the green light over the Great Northern, Great Western, West Anglia, GEML to Norwich or the Midland Main Line is baffling. Class 309s ran the Clacton-London service until an upturn in commuter traffic required the addition of 19 Class 312s (in 1976), In 1993/94 ex-WCML 321s displaced the legendary 309s, the 360s came in 2003/04 and ousted the 312s and now 720s have the line to themselves after displacing the 360s in 2020 and the 321s back in March. It's a nice diversion from the GEML, running alongside the tidal River Colne between Hythe and Wivenhoe, then climbing through open fields of North East Essex that feel so remote that it's incredible to believe you're 50 miles from the Tower of London. Then there's the quaint little Walton branch that has big hints of "faded glory".
Not at all baffling. No doubt the ministers who provided the contract funding had some "local reason" to give the contract. Or they owned the contractor who would do the work... You know, the usual reasons policiticians give contracts
Yes great if we can get a route for a class 90 in the game still no British electric locos in the game and still waiting ?????
I think funding cuts may have been the reason, there was a good economic case to extend electrification to Harwich/Felixstowe and on to Norwich. The Kings Cross outer suburban electrification wasn't approved until the early seventies. This was at a time when motorway projects were the Government's main focus. The MK1-based Class 309 was seen as a train that could run outer commuter trains from Euston and Kings Cross, unfortunately by the time it entered service BR was working on a Mk2 EMU (Class 310) and the Kings Cross outer electrification scheme came at a time when BR development was focused on the APT and PEP projects, that's why the Great Northern and Great Eastern got slam door MK2 units (312s) when sliding door stock was becoming the norm elsewhere in Europe.
Yes, 25kv electric services started between Clacton and Walton to Colchester in April 1959. They used Class 302s that were eventually destined for the LTS. The 302s spent some of their early pre-LTS lives testing AC equipment in Essex, Manchester and Glasgow. Most had been in service on the Great Eastern/West Anglia before they turned a wheel in passenger service on the LTS.
I am with you on that one and these days one can find class 90 on freight services on the Great Eastern main line
The Class 90 is one of the locos that's got to be an inevitability. It's only a matter of time that we get a chunk of one of the AC electric mainlines and it's been a common sight on all of them in its various roles.
The Class 90 is one of the Epic British locomotives ever. I don't think there is a better one. Not even the 700 or 800 railcars. When WCML and ECML and especially GEML comes online, the Class 90 will be the most fun!!!!
The only thing for me that puts the earlier class 86 and 87 over the 90 would be the tap charger. Much more involved to drive the 8x over the 90 (so a bit more fun)
Yes. The West Coast Main Line over Shap in TSC has that. I think. If the same iteration comes to TSW3/4 then your dreams will come true. I think they have a good selection of BR Brue in the WCML Shap route. I love for its variety. And the branch into Scotland....
It is likely to happen sooner or later. MML was a huge success and created a lot of publicity. A true main line and not south of London. Anything between London and Glasgow/Edinburgh as a main line and even GEML Ipswich will really raise the DTG profile and TSW3....
I think a 91 is much better than a 90, then 87s then the 90s. They are much more involved to drive than the 80xs but the actual cab of an 80x is much better I think.
I really want to see a IC225 in the game as well, remember growing up on those, going to see family up in Leeds
