The KWVR is a 4 and 3 quarter mile heritage railway based in the heart of West Yorkshire or the lesser known Bronte Country its a very nice little route and is famous for the Railway Children Movies. STATIONS: There aren't many stations along this route but they make up for it in beauty these include Oxenhope: Haworth: Damems: Oakworth: Ingrow West: Keighley: Kieghley station is located just to the left of the mainline platforms on the Airedale line and is how guest Locomotives are able to access the line. (you can find my suggestion to the Airedale and Wharfedale lines here: Train Sim World 3 - Airedale And Wharfedale Lines | Dovetail Games Forums LOCOS: Class 144 011 In the old WYMPTE livery: The pacer units were built as a temporary stop gap between the aging 1st generation DMU's and the brand new sprinters, however these prolific units overstayed their welcome by up to 50 years! This particular type the class 144 was built in Derby in between 1986 and 1987 where a total of 23 were built and entered service from 1986 all the way up to 2020 They are formed of 2 carriage sets with a top speed of 75mph. These units were so famous that a whopping 19 out of 23 where preserved and this is just one of the places where they still operate. These would be an excellent candidate as they have been highly requested for a very long time now and are the most modern units to run on this line. Class 25 059 in the BR Blue livery: The class 25 was built in both Derby and Darlington from 1961- 1967 as a freight loco however it also frequently ran passenger services, this particular unit was designated a 25/1. It has a relatively high top speed of 90mph and joined the KWVR on the 10th of October 1987. Like the 144 I have seen this loco asked for a few times and would be another excellent candidate for this route, however this unit is currently being kept away inside Haworth sheds and that's where I saw it during the diesel gala, this is due to sustaining damage from storm Ciara in 2019. 41241 LMS Ivatt Class 2MT 2-6-2T: After having a bit of a think about what steam loco to choose as there are a few famous ones such as a Black Five I noticed that we don't have any tank engines so while having a look through this one really caught my eye Sporting a bright red colour scheme and the KWVR emblem, so this one in particular is obviously very important and after having a quick look at its history with the line I found out why as it double headed with another loco on the re-opening day of this line as a heritage railway in 1968. It was built in 1949 at Crewe by H.G Ivatt for LMS It spent most of its life working in the Great Western region and in Wales before finishing its time locally up in Skipton where it was acquired by the KWVR. LAYERS: (only includes trains that are owned by the KWVR in real life or could be modified from existing TSW Locos to replicate real life) LMS Fowler 4F 43924: This unit is already in the game with the correct livery (from Peak Forest) LMS Stanier 8F 48431: This unit is already in the game with the correct livery (from Peak Forest and Spirit Of Steam) Class 08s (08266 and 08993): These units are already in the game but needs a BR grey livery and an EWS livery (from BR Heavy Freight Pack) Class 101: This unit is already in the game with the correct livery but not currently in service as it is being repainted into BR Blue (from Tees Valley Line, Northern Transpennine and Diesel Legends of The Great Western) Class 37 075: This unit is already in the game but needs a new livery and a split head code modification (from West Cornwall Local and Tees Valley Line the ROG 37 doesn't count because that doesn't look as similar) Class 20 031: This unit is already in the game but needs a new livery ( Tees Valley Line) POTENTIAL FEAUTURES: As Dovetail get more and more creative with their scenarios as seen with the Glossop Line's Gossip Line scenario I thought something similar could be done with this we could have a scenario where the player takes a walk along the Railway Children Walk from Oxenhope-Oakworth and takes photos of trains along the walk so essentially a cross between Gossip Line and Peak Forest. This route could also possibly come with being able to have a look around the iconic Haworth Sheds which is the depot for the route. SCENARIOS: Not very imaginatively named but based on real life. Diesel Gala: drive a selection of Diesel Locomotives up and down the route (much longer than the average timetable mode because it would include changing ends and going back and forth a few times) Steam Gala: drive a selection of Steam Locomotives up and down the route (much longer than the average timetable mode because it would include changing ends and going back and forth a few times) Railcar Gala: (much longer than the average timetable mode because it would include going back and forth a few times) Elf Explorer: drive this 8F from Oxenhope-Keighley and back to Oxenhope TIMETABLES: KWVR operate a colour coded timetable with Blue, Orange, Green and Pink You can find out more about the timetable and their rolling stock on their website here: Locomotive & Rolling Stock - Keighley & Worth Valley Railway (kwvr.co.uk) CONCLUSION: I think this would be a great opportunity for a heritage railway due to the amount of stock the route uses that is already in the game, It features impeccable Yorkshire scenery I would choose this over WSR any day due to these reasons and the improved TSW3 graphics and asset expansion. Like Glossop Line it provides a shorter journey that can be completed by both casuals and enthusiasts and still be enjoyed, the variation in scenery also makes it better the WSR because that is quite a flat landscape with long distances inbetween stations which is great in real life but in TSW it gets boring very easily.
This would be a very nice route with the amazing west yorkshire scenery. Would deffo be nice as a filler route
If I was a dev this would be my first route to help me get used to it all as it isn't a a massive project, followed by Airedale and Wharfedale lines because they're a bit longer and then I'd get onto the massive project of the Calder Valley Line
basically a shorter route that has been added before a bigger route comes out (glossop line is probably a filler route)
ahh not sure though Dovetail seems to make routes that are really far from one another so unless Skyhook makes the Hope Valley Line as part of their MML expansion or JT because they did it in TS I seriously doubt there will be much to come from Manchester for a long time
A nice route, although you'd need to include a Jubilee steam locomotive too, as Bahamas is a favourite on the line. It would be great tackling the incline out of Keighley station. Even though the route is short, it still takes a while to do the end to end run so doesn't feel short. Playability would be a concern though, with just the one passing loop and usually only two trains in steam, although three can kind of be accommodated. At the winter steam gala there was an express non-stop run so that could be included too as well as the demonstration freight that ran and possible some shunting scenarios. This could possibly be done better as the KWVR and then the Northern trains route from Keighley to Skipton all included together. That way you'd have a preserved line and a modern route with a reasonable length combined. You'd be able to run from Oxenhope to Skipton as some special trains have (Bahamas) and WCRC visiting locomotives and railtours have done. If this was done, I'd just use existing steam/diesel locomotives/railcars we already have in game, a Northern 158 and then an EMU of either class 333 or 331.
Well if that was how it was done there'd be no new stock on the KWVR so there'd be a bit less interest so instead of having a tiny part of the Airedale line and the KWVR I would just do the KWVR on its own with all this stock included and sell it at a similar price to WSR and then do the Airedale and Wharfedale lines as separate routes.
Appreciated, but I think it's very unlikely to get both in their entirety, so better to get a bit of both instead. Also, re-using existing rolling stock makes it more likely to come to fruition and there is plenty of KWVR rolling stock in game already so there's plenty to create realistic operations.
how about Airedale and wharfdale with the KWVR line as well, full network would be cool in my opinion
This but sadly the K&WVR is a little on the short side unless offered at a very low budget price. Something like the East Lancs might be a better candidate.
well that's why so many trains are included to make it worth $19.99 or even 29.99 but they could always go for the £14.99 price
I do like the kwvr and in my opinion it is the best short line as it has superb thrash in one direction and there are lots of stations but there are lots of preserved lines I would prefer like the svr, gwr & a few others.
I just find that routes like WSR are incredibly boring because you could be going up to 3 miles at only 30mph and its painful where as KWVR only has short distances so its nice and quick but if you want something longer you could play the scenarios
I get it can get boring but I think especially on lines like the svr they have lot’s of banks and if you are driving a low powered engine you will have loads of thrash before you get to 25 and anyway I often carry on to about 40 on a bank as the thrash is simply hellfire.
