PC Tsw 3 Raildriver

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  1. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    Just wanted to know how well or not the RailDriver is with TSW3? Especially with UK routes as that is all I have. Cheers.
     
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    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    Mine is getting old but still runs the UK trains pretty well. I can never find notch 4 on the ECW Class 377 throttle no matter how I calibrate it although no issues with the London Commuter version of the same train.

    Off the top of my head thats the only major issue UK wise I can think of.

    The class 101 is an absolute joy to drive with the RailDriver so if you like that train for me the cost of the RailDriver for this alone is justified.
     
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    It works pretty well for me too. It is somewhat limited in that there is no ability to choose which button/lever does what - you have to use the defaults - and on some trains you find that no matter how often you attempt to calibrate it, the calibration is poor. So for me with an Electrostar the 4 power notches are clustered in about 1mm of the movement of the power handle, and the rest of the movement does nothing. The 101, on the other hand, also has 4 power notches, and they are nicely spread across the movement of the same handle. I don't know why this happens, but there doesn't seem to be any way to resolve it.

    On some trains, if you calibrate in accordance with the instructions, the top power or brake notches cannot be reached by the point at which the handle reaches the limit of its movement. I find that if, when calibrating, I move the lever only to a point slightly short of its limit, it solves that problem.

    I use the RailDriver with most trains (some where it works brilliantly, and some where it works OK) then there are a just a couple of trains where I use the keyboard, because the Raildriver calibration is so poor.

    Overall, although it's not perfect, I'd recommend buying a Raildriver for use with TSW3.
     
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  4. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for that, I love the 101 and used to drive it regular in TSW2 but there the odd problem with the Raildriver and calibration, Not the 101 though.

    I already own the RailDriver and used to use it in TSW2 but I was interested in how it behaves in TSW3. With the up coming new UK release I'm thinking to whether take the plunge and give TSW3 a try. Pleased with what you both have said and with redrev saying just about all UK Loco's are good with the Driver. So thanks for that.
     
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  5. redrev1917

    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    RD support in TSW3 is virtually identical to TSW2, nothing has changed really certainly nothing noticeable.

    Im hoping with this weeks TSW3 stream with RailDriver will coincide with some fresh development and finally user definable keys but I'm not holding my breath.
     
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  6. dhekelian

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    DTG have cancelled the RailDriver stream yeah? I was actually going to watch it later, oh well. I did notice that in that game 'Diesel Railcar' they have just implemented the Rail Driver into their game and from what I have read it works well. Apparently the speed display and sound do not work but that isn't much of a loss although they have said they are working to fix the speed display.

    Apparently if you have the RD connected when you start the game you have to calibrate it only once but when calibrating you can chose what lever to map, I thought it sounded promising. They said they are using the same setup file as the one in TSW so perhaps we might see it one day or not.
     
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    Yes, RailDriver works very well with Diesel Railcar Simulator and, as you say, you can configure it however you want. If you haven't seen it already, there's a guide about it here:

    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2848841626
     
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    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Icyrrjp. I was thinking of buying TSW3 and a few routes if that RailDriver stream had gone ahead and was good obviously but then they cancelled it so I did too, lol. Bought Diesel Railcar instead, still haven't played it yet (A bit busy) but will do soon. Saved a quite a lot of lolly as well.
     
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    Id recommend TSW3 as a purchase if you want one of the routes. But at this stage given we have steams June sale soon I certainly wouldn't pay full price if I was you any way.
     
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  10. Philbo

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    Smart decision. So out of thread but why did you buy Diesel Railcar? Did you get it recommended or spur of the moment thing due to the discount offered? I see the discount is still current. I might buy it myself if Raildriver works well on it.
    Sorry DTG but, one word . . . compatibility.
    But to be fair, Humble have a stupendous deal on TSW3 atm. 15 days left on the TSW3 Mega Haul deal. It really cannot be missed for people with TSW2 and even TSW3 . . check it out if you haven't already.
     
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  11. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    I got Diesel Railcar because I saw a youtube video showing the updated graphics, the passengers are hilarious, I love Diesel Trains and they have recently added Raildriver support, I think rewarding companies that make an effort is good.

    Now DTG, still waiting for TSW2 updates and from their latest stream it is still not clear. Rush Hour still not being implemented is embarrassing and their latest admission on extensions leaves me a bit cold honestly. As for TSW3, I nearly bought it a few weeks ago when they were talking about this guards mode (which some of us have been arguing for, for ages? and with the renewed interest in Raildriver.

    I know not everyone has one of these but I bought mine a year or two ago on the back of Matt's words and promises at how well it will be supported and the updated api. So unless those two things change I'm OK with waiting for TSW4.
     
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    I was just about to say the same thing, you really should give Cobra One's software a try. I was playing Bakerloo last night with the combined power/brake control mapped to the rail driver brake lever, makes it much easier to control.
     
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    I actually looked at this, good deal. The trouble is I am only interested in 2 of the routes a few of them I have already got in TSW2 and would have to get the 16 bundle deal just to get the two I wanted. Can you edit the bundle to put only the routes you want in? I would even pay the 16 bundle price as it looks a good charity. I wonder does the routes all come with an installation code? I suppose I could give these away
     
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    yes you get a code for each individual DLC (as well as the code the TSW3 itself).
     
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    Thanks for the heads up. It is tempting but then I then I think of the awkwardness of the Raildriver on some routes. Will sleep on it.
     
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    If you download the program from the thread linked to above you will find a full manual and quick start guide included, it's a standalone program that you start before TSW. It actually comes with lever maps ready to go for a lot of the locos I drive, all of the BR diesels I think. If you're happy to tinker it gives you the ability to customise levers and buttons to exactly how you would like them to work.

    It's certainly worth spending a little time setting it up vs having to work with the default Raildriver configurations, some of which leave something to be desired. I've been able to completely eliminate problems I was having on some locos with skipped notches etc.
     
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    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    So you do not touch the in game calibration at all? Do you have a separate save for each Loco or have to set it up when you want a drive? Sounds good though, it might get me back playing.
     
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    Yes, that's right, the calibration is done outside TSW. Each loco has a separate file defining what the raildriver levers do for that loco. There is also a file mapping what each button on the raildriver does in the game, you can set this up however you like and you could have one standard set of buttons for all trains or you could customise button mappings per loco if you wished.
     
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    I get confused when I read about Cobra's terrific joystick-come-RD application. I assumed his application is for TSW, however posters are commenting on it here in a TSW 3 (Raildriver) thread. The application spoken of and linked here is not for TSW3, is that correct?
    I don't own TSW and only recently bought v3 with that Humble Bundle deal mentioned again here.
    I also managed to purchase a (broken, for parts only) Raildriver off US eBay, and save a serious amount of money.
    It was just the horn lever gone but I replaced with a proper lever switch from my junk box. Main point is I would like to remap my buttons but I understand TSW 3 is different and cannot be used with Raildriver in this fashion. Pls tell me I'm completely wrong.
    So, if Cobra's program has a caveat, and users need to own the older TSW, forum browsers need to be aware of that.
     
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    CobraOne's interface app works with TSW2 and TSW3, I'm not sure if TSW (original) had Raildriver support built in, which is what this app utilises. If you have TSW3 then youre goood to go and should be able to remap your raildriver levers and buttons as you wish, there are helpful guides in the 'manuals' folder in the app download, if you have problems more help would be better sought on the proper thread that CobraOne frequents regularly, here:
    https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/ts-world-raildriver-and-joystick-interface.61440/
     
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    I use RailDriver exclusively for reverser, throttle, brake, horn. The wiper and lights controls are a little wonky. TSW3 updates seem to affect RailDriver, so I would recommend re-calibrating when changing a Route or loco, for a better experience.
     
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