Well, there is still Amtrak California's Capitol Corridor, which shares trackage from Santa Clara to San Jose, AI subbing is possible from Peninsula Corridor, not to mention with ACE wanting to get on board, the Bay Area is another place they can expand on, not just NYC (Plus UP freight operations too)
Like we need a new UK route if TSW 4 dose come out instead of like a Southeastern High-speed route. When TSW2 first came out it was like "omg London underground in the game!!!!" But when Southeastern High-speed came out it was like "yea route extension" same trains most of the same stations and stuff. We just need a new high-speed UK route but not a rework like Southeastern, maybe LNER in the game?
We dont need new UK route... we need finally some new countries, tired of UK/US/DE over and over again. Hope TSW 4 will introduce some new countries.
It's also called "Train Sim World". (I know the "world" refers to the game mechanics.) But the world in TSW is pretty narrow. I also wish for new countries at last. How about a route along the sea in Bella Italia? Or do we venture into the Asian region? There is so much potential, but DTG sticks to the same regions over and over again - especially in the UK/US. A lot of things just feel the same, especially when vehicles are recycled. However, to ensure immersion in a completely different country (e.g. south-italian, Japan...), a lot of new content would have to be created. The completely different vegetation and buildings, hmm, I'm not sure if DTG can and wants to do this. Such a pity.
I agree DTG need to expand out of the UK/Germany/USA comfort zone, but a regards “World” this could also be taken as the environment in which the sim is set. In that you are no longer confined to the cab or disembodied views but can physically walk around and interact. As regards new regions, there is a possibility Union Workshop are doing something Japanese but all gone quiet on that front. DTG also need to be certain that whatever they do create is going to sell in sufficient numbers to justify the outlay on research, possibly sending a team 1000’s of miles to acquire the data and resources they need to do it justice. They also need to have licensing and permissions entirely above board.
I wrote that. That the "world" here does not refer to the different countries, but to the game mechanics of the "free world". But I no longer believe that we will see other countries than D/UK/GB under TSW3. It's just too quiet for that.
I hold out a sliver of hope that Focus can inject a bit more into DTG's budget to allow more global routes.
You think Focus is still gonna spend money? I'm guessing they wanna see money coming in instead of going out again.
I think we should keep the "UK" there but get two new countries, plus I find UK routes more enjoyable then US routes or German routes and we really need a 800 in the game it probably will be like the 700 "The best train in the game".
There are loads of areas in the UK bereft of any coverage in TSW, such as Eastern England/Anglia and Wales. However requests for routes in France and the Netherlands crop up quite frequently and there is no doubt a decent length Swiss main line would be popular. Further afield though as mentioned earlier you get into research and maybe licensing issues and that no matter how many pleas there might be in the Suggestion forum, just not going to be viable.
Not sure if anyone else has seen this in another thread yet, but another fellow forum member found that in the epic database there are multiple new files all created at the same time, wirh there being approximately as many files as there is dlc in game, suggesting they are being moved over. As well as this, one file has ‘flying scotsman’ in its name, suggesting this could be an add on for a route, most likely an ecml section. In addition, someone also noticed there are 3 versions of pre-ordering/purchasing. Seen previously from other epic db leaks, they’re pretty much 99% accurate, so we have it very nearly confirmed now.
Do we have an official full count of how many DLC's this includes to see if matches TSW? The flying Scotsman seems an odd choice at this point in time with the lackluster state of steam physics and lack of full firing features.
It'll sell like hotcakes though just on the name. Forgive my ignorance but what route(s) might a Flying Scotsman run on?
Well then… TSW Flying Scotsman Centenary Edition with a lengthy stretch of the ECML and, erm, that’s it, that’s this year’s TSW summer release.
This year is the Centenary (100 years old) of the Flying Scotsman. So with that in mind, it's not an odd choice in time at all, but a perfect time for free marketing/tie in hype in rail circles. Hopefully that's the case, especially if the LNER Class 800 is included. I'm sure there will be a US and German Route as well.
The epic games thing also says their are German, US and central European starter packs as well. I think a modern ECML is plausible though the question is which section? I assume they will include Kings Cross but how far would it go? Peterborough, Cambridge?
The central European starter pack makes me suspect instead of a German route, we will be getting a cross border route in Central Europe, such as one between Austria and Czechia or Germany and Austria, maybe someone who is more familiar with that area knows of some cross border routes in Central Europe.
Nothing surprises me. If we get ECML or WCML it is a long time due. I'm sure everyone will be happy when it is announced.
Now that's news to wake up to. But now I wonder when we are going to officially hear about this. And if this is indeed TSW4 and not some other kind of game (Thinking of the French Railtour Standalone for TSC), I wonder what this releases special feature will be. I'm almost more excited what this games new selling point will be rather than the routes, even tho they sound awesome.
Well it definitely looks as if we are getting a section of the ECML and possibly a Flying Scotsman steam tour pack to run on it. As I said in the other thread though, doubt it will go all the way to Peterborough or link into BML. Blackfriars to Hitchin or Royston, possibly including the Hertford Loop seems more likely. Then again, Hitchin not a logical place if Inter City services are going to be included. Central Europe is interesting. Could be something Austrian, although there are loads of interesting routes in Czechoslovakia and I would love a noisy 749 or 751, probably not hot cake enough for a TSW route. The other possibility could be something like the Hausach to Villingen and Konstanz route from TSC. USA I haven’t honestly got a clue what that might be. As it was West Coast and Cajon last year, maybe something Eastern or South Eastern. Regardless, my Steam Wallet is getting into an agitated frenzy!
Still don't really know what to think of this leak, on one hand I kinda don't want it to be true but on the other I can see how it'd be likely given the recent acquisition and whatnot. I'll be honest, I was quite anxious when I read it all. The fear of missing out on the next game because I can't keep shilling out money like I was UBS Group AG, having DLCs broken even further, and god knows what other myriad of issues might arise. But then I realized, "Well, what's the point in worrying?"I play on GamePass, so likely they'll just rip TSW3 out of our hands and shove TSW4 to us instead. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Despite all the bugs and issues that came with TSW3, it was relatively the same as TSW2 for me aside from the new UI and menu. Sure, my way older TSW1 DLCs may have become more and more borked over time (RIP MSB), I don't think it's going to be as horrible as some people say. I am hoping that there's going to be some major improvements and new features within the game, as well as generally a much more exciting roadmap. I'm hoping very dearly that maybe some Austrian ÖBB routes might be possible, germany is nice and familiar...but it's getting a little old now. Though I'm sure that whatever is going to get released, I'll be fairly happy with it as, frankly, it's the only train sim I have as a choice on Xbox. Another thing, I'm not really understanding the slight obsession with UE5 I'm seeing a lot. It's not a magical tool that'll fix everything. Maybe it'll just make things more difficult? Though I'm not really qualified to say, just seems that a complete engine upgrade will bring on lots of difficulties to ongoing projects. P.S: I want my Vectron ._.
My guess for the European route is Konstanz - Bregenz. We saw a screenshot a long time ago of some early terrain modelling that looked an awful lot like the mountains around Bregenz.
This Idea I like alot, though the thing is(this is just me using Google Maps), is that it'll take us through Switzerland...and we haven't heard much regarding swiss content.
So this UE5 thing might happen? This engine is the holy grail for games like these to become real console games or it's just more problems on the horizon?
I've been thinking about the TSWx release cadence. We got used to it being every two years and given the upheaval from TSW2 -> TSW3 in terms of new issues, broken steam, pushing older DLC down the pecking order due to TOD4, etc, I think the thought of a new TSW numbered version this year wouldn't be an obviously Good Thing (TM). However, from the commercial angle, I'm willing to bet that DTG can generate more income with a new numbered edition of the game - even if it includes three new routes - than from three individual DLC routes combined. So actually it makes sense for them to do this, and in terms of value for the players, three routes for the price of 1.5ish is great as well, along with hopefully some good core improvements. I guess the only real sticking points are whether or not we see a lot of new issues introduced with a new numbered version (although, it's not as if eg Rush Hour didn't introduce new issues); and those who are on older versions by choice, in terms of support.
I didn't buy TSW3, I can't see any reason why that would change with TSW4 (with it coming to gamepass)
We've still got the JT Blackpool - Ormskirk route to come yet, assuming that remains TSW3 rather than moving to TSW4. I would say that although I find the idea of a new TSW installment coming this year to be very convincing, I'm not quite as sure on the routes. It could be that Smithfield is just a meaningless codename, or Flying Scotsman gets put on another non-ECML route (perhaps it will appear over many routes as a railtour pack instead, or maybe it's just the name of a bundle with Peak Forest included because steam - although this is reaching a bit). Still plenty of ways this could play out. Agree that ECML is most likely but there are other possibilities too - I certainly wouldn't be calling it 'confirmed' or anything like that just yet.
Central European pack would certainly make things very interesting. Austrian route does not fit to that too much imo, that would be more like Alpine region pack. But multiple people including me suggested Elbtalbahn to DTG over the years and maybe they registered the interest. Dresden to Prague is probably too long for TSW, but Dresden to Aussig would work too. It is also one of the routes where Vectron is prominently used for both passenger and freight trains. Czechia can be interesting market with very active TS community and skilled devs (K-Trains making some of the most detailed trains for TSC), and we know that DTG at least at some point considered czech route, in one of the videos from their TSW team's studio there was a research into czech diesel class 753 visible in the background few years back.
With all this silence for the moment, maybe we can hope for more quality, whether for TSW4 or a ''Rush Hour''. Only time will tell. And can the 3rd party devs can start the developement of a route on TSW3 and release it on TSW4 ?
I was really hoping for the Bedford to London route but after seeing the flying Scotsman pop up that’s it. It was also released on TSC that way on the peterborough route
As much as I would love that, I don't see DTG doing a Czech route. If they do something in the direction of Czechia, it's going to be Dresden to Děčín or some other route that would stop at the German border.
I have mixed emotions with the Flying Scotsman pack because on one hand I'm a steam guy through and through and also it was my first model railway set. But I don't want to have to buy another expensive one handle modern electric route to be able to used it (nothing personal but Modern stuff isn't my favourite right now lol). But we shall see how it comes out and where Either way more steam is not a bad thing!
Note that Flying Scotsman doesn't necessarily relate to the kettle on wheels: "The Flying Scotsman is an express passenger train service that operates between Edinburgh and London, the capitals respectively of Scotland and England, via the East Coast Main Line. The service began in 1862 as the Special Scotch Express until it was officially adopted in 1924. It is currently operated by the London North Eastern Railway." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Scotsman_(train)
