Hi there some things that I like to see improved in TSW3 core updates Like having the option to sit down on the station bench waiting for your Train This one is only for ps5 to have Haptic feedback for the controller And this is everyone when it rains with the sun we should have a rainbow I like to see that in the Game I like to see longer routes and Extensions to existing routes I would like to see DGT and 3rd partys do 10% off discount a bit like Ea Play discount which is 10% discount Call it DGT and 3rd party play give you all DGT. And 3rd party games that they make and charge £3.99 a month and with that you get the 10% discount at least give people the option let’s say the route cost £29.99 with a 10% discount that would be £22.99 this would be fair to the customer At least give the customer that option I would definitely pay £3.99 a month Routes I like to see are Bedford to Brighton You can Extended To Orpington via Catford Loop As DGT now have the License for Northern rail I Would like to see York via Harrogate to Leeds with class 170 class 158 and class 150 Leeds to London class 800/1 class 800/2 With the class 150 158 170 as AI but you can drive them down to Doncaster and back When you are Grantham place the 158 from midland mainland there
A DTG subscription service No thank you. For TSW3 it'd work I guess but what about 3rd party and months where DTG make no routes? And for TSC, I already have to manage my payments with ATS subscrictions and massive one time purchases from AP that having an offical service would be chaotic and uneeded - Or atleast actually give us something unique with the subscruption, maybe like a seperate scenario/livery creator that can be used to create Subscription Only scenarios or something like that. Given its for DTG this would also have to be for TSC aswell for PC and how would it work tracking it over multiple consoles - lets say you play on both PC and Playstation, what do you do then? Buy it on both? Have it DTG live based? DLC/.pak file based (in which how are you suppose to stop people just imediatly pirating it). Its a good idea but probably would have no proper execution that'd work.
Both Bedford to Brighton and Leeds to London will probably never happen, especially bedford to brighton. It could work as two routes though, we already have the southern half, and its alot already. Imagine the busy midland mainline added to it.
This is a terrific idea where Dovetail games has a platform app similar to EA Play with a 10% or 50% discount for all DLCs with a $10 monthly subscription!!!
I would only consider a subscription like this if it was less than a fiver, it might be a good idea though as it would be a good way for playing DLC without having to pay those outrageous prices (seriously €36 for a shoddily-decorated 60 km route with one new poor-quality DMU is awful value)
Where's the hate? All they are simply stating is that the two routes suggested will not happen in their entirety.
If we get longer routes, I'd love to see the following: -ATSF or BNSF Seligman Subdivision: Needles, California to Winslow, Arizona; 300 miles (way too long, so this would have to be made in at least two sections); Fast freight trains across the northern Arizona desert, and even Amtrak's Southwest Chief runs on this route (Amtrak P32-8BWH, Genesis P42DC and/or Siemens ALC-42 Charger locos included?) -Possible locos: ATSF B40-8W, C44-9W, SD75M, GP60/GP60B/GP60M, SD40-2, SD45-2, SD45, GP50, GP39-2, Amtrak F40PH, P32-8BWH, P40DC/P42DC Genesis; BNSF ET44C4/ET44C6H (newly built engines for BNSF), SD70MAC, C44-9W/AC44C4M Rebuild, SD40-2, GP60/M/B, GP50, GP39-3, AC4400CW, ES44AC/ES44DC, SD75M/I, P42DC, Siemens ALC-42 Charger -SP Donner Pass (1940s-50s): Steam era with SP's massive Cab Forward 4-8-8-2s; Roseville-Reno (140 miles); magnificent mountain scenery and steep grades -Possible locos: Steam: SP AC-series 4-8-8-2 Cab Forward, SP 2-8-0 Consolidation, SP 4-10-2 3-Cylinder; Diesels: SD7/SD9, Baldwin, Alco, or FM switcher, GP7/GP9, NW2 -Brightline/FEC between Miami and Orlando; 160 miles (Orlando section scheduled to open in 2023); FEC ES44C4 w/ LNG Fuel Car, GP40-2/-3, and Brightline SCB-40 Charger locos; Siemens Venture Coaches and FEC freight equipment; Florida scenery and both freight and passenger operations at higher speeds -Other possible locos: FEC SD40-2 and GP38-2 in addition to the GP40-2, SCB-40 Charger, and LNG-fueled ES44C4 -UP Evanston Subdivision; modern or 1940s-50s; Big Boys, FEFs, Challengers, and 4-12-2s would be awesome!; #4014 Big Boy, #3985 Challenger, and #844 FEF-3 are needed; Ogden, Utah to Green River, Wyoming (175 miles); pretty long!; Scenery is prarie, some mountain, and some desert; yard in Green River and Ogden -Other possible locos: UP C45AH, UP C45ACCTE, UP SD90-43MAC, UP SD60M/SD59MX Rebuild, UP AC6000CW/C44ACM, UP C44-9W/C44ACM, UP SD70AH-T4, UP SD70M, UP GP60/GP62, UP SD40N, UP #4014, #3985, and #844 -WP Feather River Canyon Route: Oroville-Portola; 1960s-70s; California Zephyr with WP F7A or FP7A and F7B; WP U30B, and GP20, GP35, GP40, or GP40-2; less steep grades; great scenery; tunnels and bridges; Keddie Wye; Quincy RR and GN/BN Inside Gateway; future DLCs: GN and/or BN diesels (F45, SD45, SDP45, GP35, GP40/GP40-2, Baldwin or Alco locos; Quincy RR locos
Absolutely no for a subscription service or a season pass idea. A subscription service like the one in trainz does not work. Only players who buy a first class ticket get extremely fast download speeds and get the newest things. Those who don't have a subscription have extremely slow download speeds. A download that would take a minute would take like a few days. A subscription service from dtg could mean that only those who pay get updates or those who pay get all the shiny new things while those who don't get nothing. Players want equality, not disparity.
Also a no for a subscription service. I don't want recurring costs attached, sick of everything being turned into that in software lately.
£10 a month, for access to - lets be a bit more realistic here - 3 DLCs that you may or may not own, selected at random, on rotation. You could also throw in a month's access to a newly released DLC, a trial if you will. So, whilst that would cut the cost of playing the three random DLCs from £75-£105 down to £10 (which DTG would look at with horror, I would imagine), and that seems wonderful to the player; Is it really? There aren't that many DLCs in TSW, so even with a random rotation of three, there is still a high probability that the three DLCs featured would be in your library. Essentially it's £10 down the drain. And considering there's usually a spell (at this time of year) where DTG release pretty much nothing, the probability that there is such a time where you're paying for nothing and don't get free access to a new DLC, is fairly high. Also, for third parties - in particular Rivet - it would be nonsensical. TSW (and TSC) are the only games they produce content for, so they would stand to lose when they would, realistically, have their DLCs up in a TSW Pass twice a year. It sounds amazing on paper, but a subscription would have a lot of questions that need answered, for the Developers, Players, and the Financial side. As for the Longer Routes part, unless DTG can somehow magic up money from thin air, I don't see them suddenly making longer routes. Besides, I think the reception of shorter routes such as Cathcart, Birmingham, Glossop Line, East Coastway; compared to Longer Routes such as Kassel-Würzburg, LGV Mediterannee and Köln-Aachen is very telling. Longer doesn't strictly mean better. The longer a route is, the more it costs to develop, the more assets that are needed, and if it crosses regions, the more trains realistically needed. In some places this applies to shorter routes, but not everywhere. The more stations on a route, the more effort is needed to make them look good, so there is less time for more distance to be added. And, of course, extensions just don't happen. The only one, ever, was SEHS and that was under very different circumstances from any other proposed extension.
No here to a subscription service. I refuse to have anything to do with N3V's "Netflix" style option for Trainz, luckily (albeit a relative thing when dealing with Trainz) you can still purchase conventionally. Let me buy the main programme and DLC I fancy up front and I'll keep coming back for more and be a happy bunny.
I remember Matt saying longer routes would be possible if autogeneration did most of the work, requiring less manual work and saving lots of time. Until they happens for the time being, the routes will only be a certain length
It's still more manual than autogen. Matt has explained that in another thread which is why you don't see really long routes. If it was more autogen than manual, then longer routes could be possible. That's probably not all that could be automated. Until dtg has most things automated, we won't see routes that are really long
My definition of long is anything above average length in tsw which is like 50-60 miles or something. There's been longer but anything longer than the average might not be a thing for the time being unless route building becomes more automated. Like we haven't seen long routes since tsw3 but then again they were special: freight only, linear unchanging scenery high speed route, extension to track. But outside of that, average max is like 50-60
Longer routes, that would be great but before... it will be more judicious beforehand that DTG modifies TSW3 to make it possible to reach all the parts of the existing routes when creating a scenario. I regret that scenario planner does not allow it when we set the start and end points of the scenario
Fair enough, I think 60 is pushing it tbh, we don’t have that many 60 mile routes in TSW 30-40 would be more average
An optional subscription, considering the amount of DLCs already released, would be an option to ease the entry for new players into TSW. If you wanted to get all the relevant German DLCs alone to get the full layer experience, it is north of a couple hundreds of euros. Paradox Interactive had the same problem with their long running game EUIV (10 years of development with free updates and paid DLCs) and introduced a subscription that unlocks every existing DLC for a monthly price of 9,99€ or similar. If you were to buy all of them, you'd spent something way above 400€. So in the short term, the subscription is cheaper than buying all existing DLCs. Of course, the longer you use it, the more expensive it becomes compared to purchasing the DLCs. Once you stop the subscription, you lose access to all DLCs you don't own individually. With respect to TSW, it could be done similarly. That would also allow DTG to earn money on older routes which people will likely not buy individually anymore but might use if it is part of a subscription.
I think main issue with a subscription is that dtg aren't compensated fairly for their content. Let's say dtg and partners released like 5 dlc in a month. If one person pays such a low subscription, they get almost nothing. Even with lots of players. Game development is really expensive and the workers and company needs to make a living.
Well, but if that person keeps on playing, then the money would accumulate. I guess the primary question is around the play model for the game. Are players continually invested in it and enjoy it or does it have a cycle of MMOs where players come back for expansions? In the latter case, it would not make sense, as you would just subscribe for a month to enjoy the new content and then unsubscribe until the next DLC is released. In the former case, you would have to keep the subscription to continue enjoying the content.
Let's say it is $9.99 for a month for 1 person. That's only $9.99 that goes to the entire company, employees, partner programs, publisher and game development costs. After that, almost nothing. Only a couple bucks that is barely enough. Whereas, if it's $40, there is more that the developers can get
