Ny-trenton: Usa Content Is Still Severely Flawed

Thank you for the quick update JD. We can't wait to see Joe's timetable update

 

Sounds like a long way off, but TSW requires patience as always.

I'm hoping for Thanksgiving. Surely by then??

 

This is very similar to last year’s bakerloo and Hamburg timetable update. An article came out on May of last year I think and the update time table for both routes didn’t come out until a month after tsw3 was launched. So I guess you are right early November?

 

Hello JD giving that looks like the NYT timetable is still in development is there an update on the bugs and issues that were brought up.

 

Hi JD, is there any similar core development going on with US freight issues (dpu, livieries, common braking mechanic etc.)?

 

They need to be in Amtrak Phases I-III 1971-1983 with Steam Generator Amcans

 

I’m starting to think that the new NYT timetable will only be available for the updated core game or what ever the new game is called. We find ourselves in the same boat last year with the bakerloo and Hamburg timetable.that never made it TSW2 after it was announced on TSW2 roadmap back in May 2022 I hope I’m wrong.
https://live.dovetailgames.com/live/train-sim-world/articles/article/tsw2-roadmap-3-may-2022

 

The Bakerloo timetable was updated but do the Hamburg one so ?

 

Ok I must of missed that. Must of happened recently since I know I saw players asking about it.

 

I have a feeling if the update comes out for the possible new sim if that is what is cooking for 8/22, perhaps we'll see some scenery improvements, especially with the NYC skyline from Sunnyside yard. It would be cool if the route gets extended to Philadelphia-30th street, as this is a highly anticipated route for TSW.

 

I personally don't think they would extend to philadelphia. It wouldn't be busy without the septa license. Amtrak doesn't have a ton of services. It is also why dc to baltimore wouldn't work without marc since marc makes the line busy and only seeing amtrak would mean it's empty

 

It was back on Sep 2nd 2022 they were both released.

https://live.dovetailgames.com/live...1.1405576916.1687723843-1065562825.1607710720

 

I know they were release for TSW3.When did TSW2 get the updated timetables?

 

That unfortunately is in the unreleased TSW2 updates that have seem to have slipped between the couch cusions somewhere.

Coming up to 12 months on those.

Just like how they said back in early September that they will be weeks not months when they get released.

More like years or decades.

But TSW3 has them and they are pretty good. The Hamburg one really brings Hamburg Hbf to life. And it nice to see such frequent trains on Bakerloo.

 

Ok so I was correct about The timetable for bakerloo not making it on TSW2 even though it was on the roadmap of may 2022
https://live.dovetailgames.com/live/train-sim-world/articles/article/tsw2-roadmap-3-may-2022

 

Would you say NYC route + Acela for 17,80€ is a good deal?

Looking at the current sale on Steam, this is a big price decrease, but I'm afraid the timetable upgrade is going to be paywalled behind the next core release.

 

I recently bought the New York-Trenton route and the Acela in the current PS Sale. Still have to get started on this route. Question for the players that have experience with this route: I usually use all safety systems. Is it worth to turn these on and learn how to use them on this route? Or is it the same situation as on the Boston-Providence route: that they're not working properly to the point that it's better to just not bother ?

 

On new York trenton, it behaves much worse. Putting it into suppression doesn't acknowledge the alarm and you get emergency braked which is the main reason I keep it off. The Boston one doesn't do that

 

Now the New York - Trenton DLC is on sale. Is this DLC worth buying?

 

It acknowledges properly for me.

 

I guess that all depends on what your expectations are. It is an open question what further fixes are coming, besides the timetable. We also do not know if you will have to pay for "TSW4" in order to access whatever improvements are coming to NYT. My personal preference is to wait and potentially pay full price for a DLC that I know is acceptable, as opposed to buying on sale and then hoping it is improved, or regretting it when it is not improved. Although, since I play on Xbox, the point is moot for me in any case.

 

Thank you for answer. I'd rather wait to buy this DLC.

 

I would say snap it up. When the update comes, it's likely that it will be similar to the SEHS upgrade and those of us who popped for it earlier will get the upgrade for free in some fashion.

 

If you are sure you there will be an update soon I would go for it but I bought this one a week ago and can't imagine there will be an update soon. Seems like a lot of work needs to be done to get this right.

 

Thanks for the anwers. I prefer to wait until the new timetable is published. I don't mind paying full price if the DLC is good quality.

 

TSW2 still waiting for timetable update for both Bakerloo and Hamburg. This was from July roadmap

 

It's probably safe to say TSW2 is doomed...

 

I have said earlier in this thread I guessed it would be out maybe sometime in August,but after hearing about the game needs an update iam agreeing with your comments

 

Here’s a good video catching morning action from NEC (NJT and Amtrak)at Harrison station.
Around 79 trains between 7-10am. If you look toward the far left you can just about make out some of the trains headin and coming from Newark brad street.Hopefully soon we will get this reflected and experience it on new NYT timetable.

 

That's my video! Thanks for finding and sharing! Here's the other one I made from my trip last month showing the extended evening rush (over 100 trains in a little under 4 1/2 hours):



Happy to answer any questions about track routing around this area, too! (There's a really weird situation in the afternoon video where a westbound Northeast Regional was late enough that they sent it and a westbound Acela on parallel tracks, and an eastbound NJT to NYP has to stay on the Hoboken/Hudson Yard track through Rea, which is exceedingly rare.)

 

Very nice videos from the real NEC route! I made a quick comparison of the same camera position from the youtube videos and in TSW. At the same time, I also discovered the multi-storey car park center, from where you have this great view of the track and Manhattan.


What I noticed is that in the TSW timetable you don't stop at Harrison station, you just drive through. Probably only other commuter lines or trains stop there.

Great snapshot with the the Pennsylvania livery!

 

The path train to World Trade Center stops at Harrison. It’s not a nec station

 

There are great videos. Let’s hope soon we will be able to experience this action. To be honest is what I’m looking forward to the most

 

Where do the Ratitan line trains go that terminate at Newark Penn. How far do they go to turn back.

 

40-45 miles ish to high bridge which is near Clinton.

 

Correct and it's also reflected on the main Motorway between Newark and Clinton I-78. On that motorway, High Bridge is exits 17-18 while Newark Penn is exit 57. That used to go 85 miles to Allentown, PA via the Easton Delaware River Bridge railroad. NEC Trenton to Boston can also get PRR and CRRNJ era post Aldene connection DLC locos GP-40P GG1 P5A E33 E44. On the Motorway by Annandale station, it has 8 Bedminster 18 Watchung (RVL Plainfield Stop) 36 Newark (NEC Newark Penn which is on NEC Trenton-Boston via Ruggles Northeastern Uni and Providence Brown Uni stations)

 

Not sure if this has been reported already, since I’ve barely played Trenton (waiting on the timetable completion), but 3228 Long Branch to Penn (8:57 Cab Car service) just spawns you on foot in random locations, not in your train.

 

Seems another issue with spawning directly. Have you tried spawning in at Rahway around 8:55 and then walking to NJCL 3228 Long Branch Red Bank NY Penn at Rahway? Speaking of Rahway to NY Penn NJCL trips have you tried NJCL 3508 09:33 Rahway to NY Penn if present in-game because it might have the same spawn issue as 3328. The link is from the current NJCL schedule

 

The raritan valley line is diesel. It doesn’t quite parallel I-78 even though it ends up there. It dips south towards bound brook then turns northwest ish to high bridge

 

If you're asking about how they turn at the east end of the line (near Newark), there are three answers. Most run through Harrison and layover in Hudson Yard, which is just around the bend to the left of the view from my videos. A few continue all the way to NJT's MMC Yard and layover there. And there are some, it seems particularly during the morning rush, that turn in Newark Penn itself without ever running further east. These trains would arrive from Raritan/High Bridge on Newark track 5, rather than crossing all the way over from Hunter to track 1 or track A.

 

Considering Boston Sprinter had the Acela as a loco DLC, I'd love to see NY-Trenton have the Acela 21 Avelia Liberty as a loco DLC - really impressive to see YouTube videos of it doing 165mph!

 

The Liberty isn't even in service yet

 

Of course, I meant rather it would be nice to see in TSW someday regardless. The current Acela in TSW has become one of my favourite loco DLCs so would like to see more similar content.

 

I have heard of other DLC had been affected by the update that happened for SEHS prior to the 700 releasing. That’s upgrade caused many services to spawn you of foot . I think is best if you report on technical report section since you have a specific service. That way is at least logged for them to hopefully patch it in the future.

 

If you are wondering where would that go on this route it's the section between Trenton and New Brunswick Max line speed is 165 mph 265 kmh. That train can be used to make the French 15kv 16.7hz 25kv 50hz and 1.5kv DC version Société Nationale Chemin du Fer Français Avelia Horizon.

 

How brittle does the code have to be for this to happen?

 

You are correct and if you were on the Dual carriageway which is US-22 you have signs there towards the Raritan Valley Line this is from Plainfield to High Bridge section. On the ALP-45DP 4535 and Up are Alstom while Bombardier is 4500-4534. The game needs RVL services Newark to NY Penn playable including the Track 5 AI. The last trip from NYC on the RVL is 22:45

 

I think Joe had mentioned he was going to make the Ratitan services that go to penn playable. I think is 16 total. Something I had mentioned to him back in June on this thread and he added them.