Xbox Birmingham Cross City Too Expensive

I would equate it more to hobbyists, and from what DTG have said over several years of streams there are three main categories of purchasers...

People who buy anything and everything the want, but don't then get into the game (if at all)
People who like the game, but might buy it and play for a few hours then never again
People who buy the game and play it for hours and hours

 

I wish I was in category 1. More money than I could ever dream of spending that I wouldn't care throwing it around anywhere and everywhere

 

If DTG decides to raise their prices for DLC to $100 their fans won't buy DLC anymore and it doesn't make sense to raise prices even more and it will probably never happen so I want to advise a comment to be positive and not negative Just have hope for the future and things will get better and inflation will end It's a matter of when!..

 

We shouldn't have to wait 6 months the beta testers should say the truth to DTG.

 

I agree. But we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. They may identify plenty of things and are simply ignored. Most likely there is a "it's good enough" attitude before sending stuff out the door. So if you're ok with "good enough" by DTG's standards, then yes you'll go ahead and buy on day one then gripe about it here. Otherwise the smart option is to simply wait for the product to be completed and get it at half price. It's not like there aren't plenty of routes already out there to enjoy in the meantime.

 

£30 can be quite steep, I always thought £25 provided you have an income wasn’t so bad/reasonable, but inflation stuff or not £30 still remains on the steep side, leaving just sales ‘laughs in Xbox’ to wait for for anything different.

that’s unfortunately capitalism. A harsh reality, an out of my control.

it’s not everyone’s pocket money or even close, take the year subtract 2000 and that’s pretty much my age so you get the idea of the currency I grew up with, my pocket money was an annual £0, that concept just wasn’t a thing for me, only time £30 or even anywhere above about £12 was 2 times a year at birthday or the 25th December (or a very lucky chocolate egg day gift)

edit: I will add trying to convince my parents I want to spend pretty much my whole budget for birthday etc on something Xbox digital related is a tough uphill battle. Lucky for me I was 16 or 17 at the release of TSW Founders Edition so I didn’t have to deal with that.

 

30 pounds sometimes could get you a new game.

 

depending upon the game that’s very possible still for many.

 

even TSC DLCs are not that cheap...
although, i agree that 42,000￦ is bit too high.

 

When DTG raised the price to £30, IMHO that should have been accompanied by a quantity and quality buff. As stated earlier, £30 will more often than not get you a complete new game. The £30 price tag (again IMHO) should only apply to what are seen as A list routes which give at least 50 running miles (could be linear, could be a network) and two new traction types.

It is indeed subjective as I’ve mentioned before. I would happily pay £40 for the complete Somerset and Dorset with maybe a 9F and 53xxx, a vintage Blackpool Tramway with Balloon cars and Coronations or Inverness Hub bringing a Class 26 and RMB buffet car to the game.

 

This is so assumptive it's almost not worth responding to
The Beta team DO give feedback (been noted on several streams) but that also relies on DTG listening to that feedback, acting on the feedback, assigning testing and coordination to the fix and then releasing it.
All of which DTG have a track record of not completing...

 

Then why respond? "If it's not worth responding to".

 

I didn't say that. try again

 

I have no idea why you felt the need to post your entire comment in bold. There must be a reason, it’s just not clear. A bit like the post. Punctuation would help, far more than emboldening all the words

 

How many hours do you think it takes to create a loco from scratch?

 

Maybe you should read what you send.
Edit: like what you need to learn is that everyone in the TSW community have different opinions on the game some say the same some don't you can't expect for everyone to like the game.

 

To be fair, in the first instance he said “almost not worth responding”.
I agree we all have different opinions, but you were questioning the integrity of the Beta testers by implying they weren’t reporting back errors to DTG ? I get that you say that’s your opinion, but you don’t really have any basis to make that claim, do you ? That’s just an assumption by you

 

It's just that I've been hearing from people that the beta testers don't respond back to DTG but idk if that's true and it's just that sometimes how the route's are released. Sometimes unplayable and glitchy and some people have been saying is that "DTG don't listen to the beta testers" so wether that is true or not they should stop adding useless features like fly's in Edinburgh to Glasgow and piano's and fix the bugs issues instead of adding useless features.

 

Elsewhere you can find info from former beta testers. Take it as you wish, but they apparently do provide feedback. Lots of it. But a lot gets ignored. Criticise too harshly and you get the boot. Their info, not mine. Yet it seems to make sense as I think all the embarrassadors are also beta testers? Keep being a yes man and get your freebies.

 

Ambassadors aren't beta testers. They just get early access to dlc or know what releases and when. Why do you have something against them? What did they do to you? Ambassadors report any bugs they encounter through their channels as well. I have yet to see an ambassador say a dlc is perfect even if they receive it for free. Dtg doesn't just give out the role to anyone and there are certain rules they have to follow

 

Why would anyone be here if they didn't like the game! I wouldn't waste precious time commenting on a product I didn't like and didn't use, I would find something worthwhile to do!

 

I don't have a clue about route building or building a train but when you look at the detail that goes into routes, even short routes like Glossop, I can't imagine it takes but a week! I think some think DTG should work for nothing!

 

His narrative about TSW and DTG failing has just been debunked on another thread, so I suspect another band wagon has just gone past!

 

If I may be so bold, I would like to nominate you for an ambassador position with DTG. I think you would do a great job in this space. Is there a nomination form that the community can fill out somewhere?

 

Just my opinion init.

 

Would you like some copium with that?

 

I mean you could have a little sympathy for the OP. You yourself created the Enough Is Enough post about increased pricing (to which I agreed with you btw).

 

It has bugger all to do with brexit. This is a global issue due to pointless lockdowns.

 

Dude I was just messing with you guys I was trying to get my point let's hope DTG will not raise the prices again. Sometimes it does not hurt to have prices be ($14-21) I seen it happen with games examples like: City Skylines Planet Coaster and Planet Zoo. I think it will not hurt dovetail games if they decrease prices to ($14-21) I know it's about making money but at the end of the day it's also about customers happiness too. If you guys do not like what I say take it as you will. I will stand by my comment and I will not be judged by that I'm just here to spend my point across and say that money is good but it also leads to greed (" kindness is everything. Happiness and love is forever") Just be kind to one another. That's what I say thanks for reading my comment!!!

 

I do... As others have pointed out I said "almost not", not just "not"

I would say that even if one Beta tester responds, and that response is a valid issue, but DTG either don't address it or haven't left enough time to fix the problem then the issue isn't with the Beta testers as a group and that's what my initial comment was regarding.
If you've "heard" that Beta testers aren't responding, is that all of them, some of them, the majority of them?
It's easy to throw a one line accusation out, but much harder to refute or evidence the claim

Which is different to the beta testers don't respond...

This I can partially agree with. The issue on this point is that it depends on what the issues are exactly. If a scenic artist has an afternoon spare and wants to design some flies which have zero impact on how the game runs I see no issue with that. It's not like a scenic artist would be competent to undertake physics calculations on an engine or configuration on a signalling system

I do understand that people want the game to run (and by run I mean "properly" by their understanding). I'm one of them

 

The pricing is not the problem, the quality of the product on release is the problem. Also Xbox development is a problem. On Xbox the routes don't feel like they are worth the price. The game felt so crappy on Xbox Series I could not understand why people still played this game. On PS5 I have changed my mind and started buying routes again. New routes always feel clunky build but It's when you get to routes that were revisited for polish you start to notice the price is right.

 

You are bordering on the political and I don’t think that has a place on this forum

 

True true. I agree with you

 

Nothing wrong with the routes or TSW on the Xbox. I used the series s Then bought a series X. I think the Xbox is sometimes better than the PS5 on TSW. In fact I think the series X looks better and sharper than the PS5 and PC versions of TSW 3 I have.

Hentis

 

But you play with the sound turned off? The audio issues made the game totally unplayable for me. On Xbox it sounds like they pumped up the volume of all inconsistenties in the audio. Loop cutoffs are very pronounced and totally kill the immersion on Xbox.

 

YeS sound is bad on the Xbox sounds distorted and I cannot believe they've still not been fixed!
Hentis