Bml Extension

I’d like to see West Croydon added to the route either via Selhurst or via Crystal Palace.

 

Doubt It'll happen. We already have 1.5 thousand (approx) services and 45ish miles. I can't imagine DTG doing more stuff for it.

 

Maybe you could provide more details rather than writing a few words

 

As just mentioned in another thread, the operational stability of BML hangs by a thread. It is so fragile, DTG haven’t even gone in and fixed the missing track at Redhill or tidied up the part finished area at Reigate, missing section of lineside fencing on the Quarry line.

Adding anything else will probably tip it over the edge, which is why we didn’t get a once an hour in each direction Class 700 Thameslink layer added.

 

I think before they do anything else to BML they should add the class 700s

 

I'm starting to think DTG made a mistake extending SEHS. All people have done since is suggest that other routes be extended.

 

And render BML unplayable. Smart, that.

 

Honestly, this.

In my opinion SEHS shouldn't of even of been the TSW3 UK route. We had high speed with KWG and freight with CJP but SEHS is kind of then all? I would of much rather a more commuter focus UK route - still long but just more commuter focus rather than freight or high speed so we get the full capabilites of high speed, freight and commuter in 3 diffrent routes and then steam with the deluxe. TSW2'S route choice was brilliant due to this.

Don't get me wrong though the update was much needed I just feel like it wasted potential.

 

Personally, having Keymer Junction to Lewes would be the best addition. Allows for better services to end at Lewes on the ECW and also it would complete the triangle.

 

obviously optimise it first so long as thats possible

 

A lot more work than is worth it for the reward.
BML is a good enough route as it is for most people. The 700 + an extension would make it next-level, but it's not really needed.

 

I disagree, It is a lot of work and my respect goes out to DTG but it is certainly worth the reward and I think you'll find for most people that atually care about BML or UK routes in general will want a 700 on BML because it adds that necessary variety that you didn't get before not to mention it will liven the route up south of East Croydon to new heights as it gets fairly quiet down there especially near Brighton

 

Exactly! Plus sam#2862 don't you think 50 miles and close to 1.5k services is already a bit too much?

 

well its not too much for real life, its not like this route is fictional in any way

 

Well yes but in tsw terms that would likely be too complicating on certain Consoles or certain pc specs.

 

thats why I said it should be optimised

 

Arguing a point for a totally different discussion. Bravo.
I'm not saying BML wouldn't be better with the 700. It absolutely would.
I'm saying BML doesn't need the 700 to be alive. It has 4,000+ services, AI and Player, including all layers. To suggest that it needs anything more is absurd.

And if you think that, for DTG, the reward is worth the effort, then you clearly underestimate the work needed to go in. (Hint: It's one hell of a lot)

 

Easy to say, harder to do...

 

Just seen this-

Real Life hardly has the risk of crashing because it can't cope with the number of assets loading, does it?

 

Precisely

 

Also not like we'll see

"Software Has Closed Because An Error Occurred."

 

At least that would be better than the game crashing without an explanation as to why.

 

The PlayStation weeped. Dovetail Games had decided to add more services to BML. The stupid owner of the PlayStation had decided to download it. It knew that the end was nigh. As the game loaded, the cooling fans whirred like a helicopter. The button was pressed. The PlayStation closed it's eyes. One last moment of bliss...

BOOOOOOOOM!!!!

The house exploded and the PlayStation turned to smithereens.

 

Nice story.

 

That's the exact same thing.

 

Thank you good sir

 

Already too long, unlikely, little detail and would crash your PC.

 

Exactly what me and trainsimplayer have been trying to say.

 

Certainly wouldn't crash my PC lol. TSW isn't taxing it at all, even on BML. I play games with MUCH bigger memory demands than TSW3.
It's really just the Gen 8 Consoles that would be crashing.

 

Dtg did not extend SEHS, instead they REBUILT it, which only proves it can be done. However, I believe there was a element of bias when this was done due to it passing through Chatham (DTG's home). Other routes deserve, and in some cases are desperate for, the same treatment.

 

VexSG was playing BML and his PC crashed lol. For me, my PC is only slow playing BML around a spot at East Croydon and the lights near Battersea Park. Otherwise, it’s all fine.

 

I've had zero issues with BML, using JetWash's new Beyond Ultra.ini.
I do have an insane amount of Ram for most gaming and overall good PC though.

 

I know but thats why we come to DTG and buy their products, we expect hard work

 

I know but hes saying its already too much when its not because there is more in real life its not like DTG have added unrealistic layers ahem 375 diverts and HST

 

its only alive in London when you are in that area around Brighton its silent, and yes the reward is much worth the effort, if they want us to keep coming back to them then they have to put in the work

 

There's a difference between expecting hard work, and expecting a LOVE-ton of work for minimal reward.

Not the point. Not even close.

It's alive all the way down to Gatwick and at Brighton Station. The 700 would "complete" the route, but the absolutely insane task of optimising, fitting services into and already struggling timetable, and setting everything up + the extra coaches for an FLU 700/1...

All just to satisfy a smaller part of the community, and summon complaints of "DTG are making me buy the 700 again!!" from the moronic part of the community.

Dovetail are a business. They have to think these things through, and a 700 on BML - which already stands as their firmly most alive route - is not worth it. Not for the absolutely mad amount of work needed.

 

This minimal reward is a little something called money and a better reputation

 

Money, maybe. But for the amount of work for what is essentially a loco DLC? I don't think it would balance.

As for reputation- this playerbase has enough idiots who would slam dovetail for "making us buy the 700 again".

Keep dreaming. I'll stay in reality.

 

well they can get a small discount whereas those who don't own it pay more, simple

 

So what a Glossop line situation? where it'd be like 5-10% of at most.

Yeah buddy, keep on looking. Probably isnt the hill to die on here.

 

thats perfectly reasonable

 

Right, so pretty much completely overhaul the most taxing route in the history of TSW, and give it to people for 10% off...
As lucasfor49 says, this isn't the hill you want to die on.

 

Precisely

 

no this is for the 700/1 bc people complain abt buying the 700 again so those who have the 700/0 can pay less than someone who hasn't bought it because you are only getting 2 new carriages and 2 that you already have, but in the end it would add up to both paying an equal amount if you catch my drift

 

Its still reworking one of the most TIME COMSUNIMG routes in TSW history requirng a complete rebuild of the entire route. And for all that time you think 10% off is fair for the amount of effort.

As I said before and will say again

This is NOT the hill you want to die on.

 

this is the 700 i'm referring to not the BML timetable for the 3rd time

 

REGARDLESS it still dosen't matter - to bring the 700 in still requires reworking the BML timetable - no?

and given the entire point of this thread is an extenstion your either extremely offtopic or downright don't know what your talking about anymore.

 

the BML timetable could be a seperate DLC, are there not other routes that the 700/1 can run on?