Ignoring a possible leak and clues, the Hudson Line looks very likely. M7 - ✓, M3 - ✓, CSX freight(AI-only) - ✓. P32AC-DM with coaches - the new one guy. Rolling Stock variety - ✓, Many possible services - ✓, enough route lenght - ✓. The only thing that can be bad is the environment made by DTG. If TSG were doing this route, I would have believed that it would turn out beautifully. DTG will make everything too simple and with a minimum of details. Which, in my opinion, is unacceptable for routes with beautiful natural environment.
If you ignore all the leaks and other stuff gained from various sources there is, for me at least, one big clue. Whenever there is a thread on this forum where there is speculation or excitement along come the DTG police and shut it down or sometimes they state that it isn't happening so quelling the rumours. So tell me why DTG hasn't said anything in this thread, at all? I would also ask if TSW4 is not happening why are they letting the thread continue are they that perverse? And if it is happening why not come out and confirm it and discuss it openly and get people on board. How many times in the past have DTG released DLC and the forum members have spotted something dodgy? Perhaps if they were to come clean another member might have an insight. Surely happy customers are better than angry ones no?
From what I gather DTG only lock speculation threads if either there completely misleading (like just directly saying route name coming out when) or if it goes off topic. If you provide some evidence from what I've gathered DTG don't actually care.
Why in the world would anyone be angry? We've pretty much been on starvation rations the last few months. Now we're looking forward to an avalanche of new stuff in Q3 and Q4. My Steam wallet is ready and waiting. There's no reason for DTG to comment in this thread. This is exactly what they want, players stoked for 8/22. Heck, I'm a little fired up myself! They got everyone excited by the DTG Direct announcement and gave the forum 3 weeks to build up the anticipation. The only problem for them is the risk of an anti climax.
Its why I hope it’s a free update unless DTG really has changed game performance/ mechanics or added new features for TSW4.
I am aware. So aware that I still remember asking Google about it and ending up getting an example with no other date than... January first. great example thank you
For the next few days I'm going to enjoy playing some BML ,Harlem and TSC ATS peterborough/Cambridge route and take a little break from the forums. Honestly I'm mostly excited for NYT new timetable which I figured a few months back would had kept be Busy for awhile . Unfortunately that didn't plan out. The 700/0 was good for a few days, but on the SEHS just doesn't do it justice. Hopefully we can see it and the bigger brother on an AC route soon
"pre-order from August 22nd" don't DTG have a announcement stream on that day that is replacing this month's roadmap?
For TSC ATS you are referring to the Fen Line with ECML. That one needs to be Base route for UK TSW 4
After reading throughout the Forum and all the wild speculation around the Summer release, i wanna add my personal thoughts on this as well. After all the Informations i read, and considering that TSW3 was only released last year, i cant really see a completely new game being released in september, my bet is on a similar release to rush hour, with 3 routes (most likely one theme throughout those 3 Routes) and hopefully a big improvement update that comes with it. The Name simply is a Name, be it TSW4 or another one. At this point TSW is running on an 'outdated' engine and the community is asking for a TSW UE5 game since UE5 is released. And rightly so. But im pretty sure that would meant that they have to structure what's basically a complete new game. And maybe UE5 is a hood point to really start over again. We wont see that on Gen8s for sure, but its too early to dip them completely, yet. So this might be the last chapter of the UE4 TSW before they changing to UE5, a complete new game structure next year. It would then also be sensible to dip gen8s. So like i said, i bet its a rush hour release, and TSW will (hopefully) be reconstructed for next year.
Speculation is a total different way of talking than spread incorrect news instead of discussing the whole situation right?!
Believe me, they have shut down threads for far less and imo the only reason why this thread has been left open is that it either suits DTG or if they did shut it down it would make them look foolish. Let's say TSW4 is not coming out, then would DTG want this thread shut down? imo yes as they would want people to concentrate on TSW3 and its DLC. Let's say TSW4 is coming out and it will be totally fresh so you will have to re-download all your DLC and pay for the upgrade to TSW4 for each of your routes? Would you be happy about that?
Let me explain the context.... You can say this is 100% sure the new things that coming and there is no other possibilities either... Or This is a possibility that the name is TSW4 but what do you think and give people space to have their own opinions right?!
DTG not closing or responding isn't anything new. Last year there was this thread that is still open and no reponses from DTG until they officially announced it so nothing new here. And we were aware of TSW3 earlier because of JD's leak and had longer to wait. https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...the-unofficial-tsw3-speculation-thread.56318/
God, no. This is the internet! People only like it when you hold the same opinions as them, otherwise they create a pile-on in the hope that you either relent or get cancelled. Back on topic, who is looking forward to TSW5 in 2024?
Ah you stole my thunder there. I was literally about to press post saying the exact same thing apart from 'lol' before checking what had been posted! What is it they say, 'great minds think alike'!
Can't be bothered to read through the thread so this may have been mentioned, but the gamepass discounts on xbox store are ending in 27 days. Last time that happened TSW 3 came along.
I’d rather TSW4 in 2024 and keep TSW3 for the time being and hopefully DTG could have time to fix some of TSW3’s issues.
It makes sense that TSW 4 coming I mean look at the long gap between everything here same as when they released TSW3 they just went silent for a while and then came out with an announcement coming so it makes perfect sense however I don't understand it because they still have unreleased TSW2 content and many fixes that need to be done to TSW3 why would you add another game to your backlog if you're already having trouble putting out patches for TSW2 because there's just no room build room I sometimes don't understand how they function they're just creating more of a backlog now because now they're going to have to update three games well it is only one update for TSW2 but still it's going to create it and even worse backlog why
Just for pure speculation (I'm bored) let us say DTG decide in their wisdom to start anew either with TSW4 or TSW5 do you think they would consider moving to a different engine or would they stick to what they have?
I honestly have nothing wrong with them and still can't find the reasoning for other dislike as the less useful ones can just be ignored. Maybe we should create a poll to decide if polls are worthwhile, I am sure many people would be more than happy to see that poll! I think we may have just opened another can of worms though!
That’s the big dilemma for them I guess. If they change engine then they either rewrite everything from TSW 3 or as said above, everyone loses their collection. Costly business rewriting everything and I don’t think they could recharge people for DLC they have already bought? On the flip side, they will have to change eventually so it’s just a matter of time before they will have to make a choice.
Yes, I agree, I just hate the thought of losing my DLC. I only play uk routes and have them all, so it’s a big loss for me. But a better game comes with some sacrifices I suppose
