Route Midland Main Line - Feedback Thread

Discussion in 'Player Feedback' started by DTG Alex, Jul 6, 2023.

  1. Sharon E

    Sharon E Well-Known Member

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    Don't know what platform you are running, but if PC, then it is now running very well and with the enhancement files created by LM and company it is truly a very good route.
     
  2. coursetim

    coursetim Well-Known Member

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    PC doesn't seem to bad but it seems like consoles aren't running to the same level which is a shame. As I said I do want the route but not until its a bit more polished on console as rn its not worth the money on console imo :)
     
  3. robert.miller

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    Yeah, it runs a bit dodgy on Xbox S. It was great they fixed the TPWS error, but the long pauses and stutters around Long Eaton are very annoying, as is the power station magically popping up right before you! (right after a small pause).
     
  4. 1dart Mart

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    It’s such a shame for console users, as this is one of my favourite routes but I just can’t play it :(
    Hopefully Adam will update us further, in the not too distant future. :)
     
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  5. Sharon E

    Sharon E Well-Known Member

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    More like Matt, remember that SHG only does the PC version and it is up to DTG to do the conversion over to console. This is probably why the PC version now runs without much issue.
     
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  6. 1dart Mart

    1dart Mart Well-Known Member

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    Oh right, ok. Sorry, my bad, I thought when Adam responded about the next update I thought it was consoles as well. Gutted…..I need to starts saving for a PC :(
     
  7. Sharon E

    Sharon E Well-Known Member

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    1dartMart, Adam may say something about the console update from information he gets from DTG, but it is not a firm thing. Also with the PC you get the mods that we now have.
     
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  8. 1dart Mart

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    Ok thank you. Having seen the difference on MML that you get with PC it’s like night and day. And the extra mods you all get is amazing. There’s just the small matter of explaining this reasoning for a PC to Mrs 1dartmart lol
     
  9. Sharon E

    Sharon E Well-Known Member

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    Mrs. 1dartmart may be convinced when she sees what she can do on the PC. Look up all kinds of thingsd like recipes, if she cooks, shopping and other things.
     
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  10. 1dart Mart

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    Now the shopping part would appeal to her ;)
     
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  11. DTG Alex

    DTG Alex Senior Community Manager Staff Member

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    Hello everyone,

    I am sharing forward a response from Skyhook Games regarding updates for Midland Main Line. Further feedback and reports have been received, but the list below is their priority for now:
    • Collectables [In Progress - Almost Resolved]
      It required a deep dive to find out what was going on. Testing the fixes revealed a few remaining issues.
    • Terrain Painting Issues [Under Investigation]
      Investigated with the help of various staff at DTG and as yet we don't have an answer. The terrain painting is the same as other routes.
    • Signage errors and quality [In Progress]
      Station and depot signage are being improved.
    • Speed Sign Text Size [In Progress]
      This will be completed after the station signage.
    • Class 158 PIS feedback [No Progress Yet]
      We continue to investigate conflicting reports on if it needs to change.
    • Controls not working as expected on controllers [No Progress Yet]
    • Remaining TPWS glitches [No Progress Yet]
    • Missing services in the timetable [No Progress Yet]

    They wanted to reaffirm that Midland Main Line remains very much an active project for the team at Skyhook.
    Thank you all, we will share more news on the update when it is ready :)
     
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  12. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the update Alex.
     
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    Thank you for the update
     
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    Appreciate the update but a further patch seems a long way off still going by those notes
     
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  15. sadler_owls

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    Nothing in the notes about PS5 crashing issues. That's the MAIN ISSUE that needs sorting. It's 50/50 whether you can complete a service.

    No other DLC on TSW3 has anything like these problems.
     
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  16. mattchester#9176

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    It would be helpful if this was at least acknowledged as an issue, even if there was no timescale for a fix. One assumes they are seeing the crash reports.
     
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  17. munky#1438

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    Still cannot select the HST when going to choose a train and then Timetable on PS5 and the same for the Training Centre this has been like this before and after the patch!
     

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    Hiya, Apologies that this wasn't clear. The investigation into potential issues with the terrain texturing is related to the PlayStation crash reports. Unfortunately though current findings suggest MML is less complex on this front than other recent releases and retexturing the terrain of the route is massive undertaking that cannot be justified if it isn't guaranteed to address the issue.
     
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  19. LucaZone

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    Hiya, Have you submitted a support ticket for this? I am not aware of any issues related to the Class 43 HST being completely missing for players on PS5. Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the DLC and ensuring TSW is shutdown and restarted after the installation?
     
  20. mattchester#9176

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    Thanks for the update. Hopefully the investigation finds the route cause and that a fix or workaround can be put in place. Odd that it seems to be PS5 (or Playstation) specific.

    If it turns out to be related to the textures though and it's not financially to retexture the route, you may find that PS5 users come to the conclusion that future Skyhook DLC is massive fianacial undertaking that cannot be justified if it isn't guaranteed to work well enough to simply complete a service!
     
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  21. FallenAngel00me

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    The crashing only affects HST services. Never had a crash with the 158
     
  22. shooter#3480

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    I’ve recently purchased midline mainline dlc on ps5 and the game seems to be crashing the whole ps5 driving the HST coming into Leicester area!! Hope this will be fixed soon as was really looking forward to this route paid £30 for it also.( just played it again and game crashed while driving the 158 ) hope a fix can be found as this dlc is completely unplayable until fixed!
     
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  23. andyward1971

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    Unfortunately the issues have been there for a while. They don't seem to be working quickly on fixes considering the crashes.
     
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  24. shooter#3480

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    I recently had crash with 158 today on ps5
     
  25. FallenAngel00me

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    So they do happen! I genuinely haven't experienced one with 158. But it genuinely doesn't surprise me in the slightest. This route wasn't ready at release
     
  26. Sharon E

    Sharon E Well-Known Member

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    I can see how those of you running on PS5 would say this, but on PC this route is now running fine and is one of my favorite routes now.
     
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    Yeh I definitely agree that the dlc should never been released!! As it’s not ready as keeps crashing my ps5 on certain parts of route. It’s a shame as I was looking forward to playing route. Angry I paid £30 for it and doesn’t run properly.
     
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  28. shooter#3480

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    Makes me wish I had a pc lol as seems game runs much better on pc.
     
  29. Tigert1966

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    That’s not what Adam said. He said they can’t justify it until they are sure it is the cause.
     
  30. FallenAngel00me

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    It's not a few. The HST is unusable, crashes every time.
     
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  31. goochdog#5870

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    I’m another poor sod who believed the hype about this DLC for PS5 and how quick the improvements would be made .
    Without going all Dead Parrot sketch, the DLC is dead on the PS5 . It’s almost unplayable. Thirty quid is a fair bit of money to just flush down the toilet because that is what this is like.
    Most products that don’t work , you are able to get a refund . That is what should be offered here . Just looking at this thread shows how many PS5 owners are annoyed at this . it’s not often that I get suckered , but this time I have . I won’t be believing anymore hype from Skyhook . Ironic that a skyhook is what new kids at work were told to get from “Ted in the office “
    Disgraceful
     
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  32. goochdog#5870

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    Will this ever get fixed now ?
     
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  33. SGTDRE

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    Now that TSW4 is being worked on, the other issues are being put by the wayside. :o:(:mad:
     
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  34. DTG-Chris

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    A limited number of improvements will be coming to Train Sim World 3, but we will continue to update the back catalogue of compatible add-ons as we normally would for Train Sim World 4. Any reported/unresolved issues will continue to be on our radar for the future.
     
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  35. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but my brain has gone to jelly.

    Will MML improvements be coming for the TSW4 'version' of the route?
     
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  36. richardwwoodward

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    Unlikely. MML was a clusterf**k and they totally ripped us off. The updates we got so far were to make it barely up-to-scratch for an initial release. Then a Skyhook rep had a meltdown on the thread because two or three idiots turned up and started being (admittedly) really nasty.
    Long story short, it’s a case of once bitten, twice shy with Skyhook and Rivet. So far all their stuff has been garbage and I stupidly bought it all with promises and lies of fixes. Never again. Don’t touch their rubbish with a ten foot pole.
     
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  37. LucaZone

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    Hiya,
    Yes they will, though all the fixes continue to be made to the TSW3 version. DTG takes those fixes and rolls them forward to the TSW4 version.
     
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  38. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for confirming that, I think my brain was still flustered from the ECML, and BOP announcement ;). Keep up the good work.

    Maybe from your persective but after NTP and TVL MML is my favourite route, with two solid pieces of rolling stock and apart from the signalling and TPWS issues at release (which I made my discontent clear about at the time) not got any major draw backs playing it now. I am looking forward to their next release actually.
     
  39. FallenAngel00me

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    Any time frame for the fixes for MML? The ps5 version is unplayable
     
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    Getting quite a few crashes on Xbox S now too, only on Derby to Leicester services when Ratcliffe Power Station is popping in. Doesn't do it every time, its a bit of a lottery but unacceptable nontheless.
     
  41. matt#4801

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    Is that series s or one s?
     
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    Series S.
     
  43. matt#4801

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    Really, I'll see if I have problems on mine when I get home tonight.
     
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    Yeah, it first did it when I was using a creators club livery, so I stopped using them but it does it using stock one now. Like I say it seems random though. There is a slight pause before the cooling towers pop in and if it's going to crash it does it then.
     
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    Just done a few routes on midline mainline on ps5. And all seems to be well now no crashing?? Not sure if it’s been fixed or not? But all I know is every time I played this route before I would crash my game. So here’s hoping
     
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    That is good to hear for the entire PS5 community, Yes Here is to hoping that it is all worked out, but the question is was there a notice about updates, or patches coming to the PS5 version? I did not see anything on here concerning the issues on PS5.
     
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    I’ve been playing the route most of the night and been all over the place with hst and 158 and not crashed once. So I’m hoping whatever was causing crashing is fixed but I’m not complaining lol. Hopefully will continue for everyone who had issues on console. Haven’t seen any notices about ps5 updates so not sure tbh. All I know is I’ve been able to play this route without crashing.
     
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    That is Good to hear, I'm simply guessing here, but just maybe some kind of an update or patch was pushed out with any notice?
     
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    I still get random crash whilst driving the HST on PS5. I don't know if this is a new crash or the same as prior to the update as the locations have been random. Only played it once since the update as it is unplayable if it randomly crashes
     
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    That’s strange that you have been getting crashes on route? As I’ve been playing it most days now on ps5 and get no crashes.
     
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