Train Sim World 4 - Antelope Valley Line Q&a (september 7th)

I see 2 similarities between actual L.A, and L.A represented in the game. The homeless people ask for money to help support their needs. Dovetail are like the homeless people. They both ask the civilians of America for money to make there city feel more life like

 

How would I know as a passenger how it is to fly a plane? I didn't get any of the sensations you get during a flight when I played Flight Simulator. So if I should rate it on my passenger experience it does not come even close to the real thing

 

This one’s hard to reply to but I’ll give it a try.

I know extreme details/considerable more time spent on buildings you can’t use is in TSW is unnecessary as I stated above here, which is implied as non needed despite my own personal preference on architectural stuff.

their is many buildings close/very close to the tracks, I don’t expect them all to have considerable time put in them when I don’t use them or see them for minutes or most cases seconds at a time.

and as I also said above that one building is more than just generic, it’s clearly been done on more of a scale than most buildings and similar to MetLife on Harlem where it resembles as much as needed but ain’t exactly right, and visually ain’t exactly right. Likewise with the shard (that’s glass on the outside, in the game it’s more concrete) the hotel outside Waverley in Edinburgh is also another close related example to this LA one or the Oriental Office Building on Dresden.

They’re higher quality as needed but don’t go over for no purpose other than increasingly better looking, great details but for no purpose when it already was good looking.

Which is more what you were implying for that one LA Building.. ? Not myself.

Yes that La building is a slightly different shade of colour, which is more important than most of its features, as it’s all over but apart from that it closely enough resembles it.

as you’ve said an extra 30 minutes helps, yes it will, so does 10 minutes or 10 days but each just as unnecessary when the model is looking close and good enough, either one it plays no more benefit in TSW for the time it’s taken.

 

So we can see what the route looks like instead of driving into pitch black

 

Exactly my point. Take a drive on SPG or BML and then drive on BCC or Cathcart. See the difference?
I think the streamers are just plain embarrassed by the lack of ambient light.

 

They had already shown the complete run to Lancaster. We wanted to see how it looked at night. We all know why it wasn’t probably shown. Is no secret about the night lighting.

 

Absolutely. And I'm a player who spends most of the time outside the cab, leaping ahead or exploring the environment, sometimes on foot. So the scenery detail is very important. I'm not expecting photorealism, but not low poly either.

 

Okay, do you have VR or not? If you have VR with the right hardware, a good enough graphics card to have most details on high/ultra with photogrammetry, a very well handmade airport plus add some rainy weather with the subwoofer on +4 db it gets very close to the real experience. If you keep ignoring the close to real part I specificaly write to just be that guy, go ahead, enjoy your day.

 

Same for me, the graphics are more important then what's simulated in the cab or it's physics... Is it nice to have everything simulated? Yes, ofcourse, but thats not the main reason for why I use TSW. There are better train simulators for that.

I dont expect photorealism everywhere either, but making 3 cubes in Blender with a 512x512 single color texture that should go for a building while using UE4 in 2023 is just low effort (that's my opinion) and we dont care attitude.

 

I have VR. Xbox does not have VR

 

Doesn't have time to remodel the kitchen and add a spare bedroom and a hot tub, but has time to weed the flower beds.

 

Train Sim Classic is a video game but that has practically study-level trains in it. What gives?

 

Wait?! DTG has a video game with study-level trains and there are people on here that don't know yet about that game? Guide them the way to the TSC forum so they can finally enjoy a true simulator. Why are people even on the TSW forum? What gives?

 

A question I still ask reading some of the more whinging posts and threads that are still popping up about TSW4 and it’s content. Reminds me of a scene in that old military trial movie, A Few Good Men, where Demi Moore’s character repeatedly and strenuously objects to an issue despite the judge having overruled on the first occasion. She gets ripped a new one by the rest of the team. Object once to get it on the record, but beyond that it’s unnecessary and comes off as churlish or I must be right if I keep repeating it.

Fine, we get that some people aren’t happy with the decision to go to TSW4 and the choice of content. But they don’t need to labour the point to the extent that seems to be happening. If you don’t want to join in the party, then go to another pub…

 

What was the shadow setting in the stream? Shadows seemed rather subdued.

 

Well, gotta take issue with you here, Vern. Sometimes repeating yourself to the point of being annoying can be an effective strategy. I can think of a couple of issues in the recent past, for instance, getting the save game restored, revisiting the NYT timetable, and that problem with SEHS, where it did. Plus I'm sure I can find a couple of instances when you yourself have pulled the " few good men " thing.

Truth is, we as players don't have a lot of options when it comes to getting the developer's attention.
For myself, when I see a problem with routes and locos, like the save game, awful night lighting or the NYT debacle, yes I will harp on about it.

As for "going to another pub ", that sounds a bit like the " if you don't like it, you don't have to buy it " mantra, which doesn't fly well in such a monopolistic market.

I hasten to add that I'm not in the " down with DTG camp ". I've bought the deluxe version of TSW4 and intend to enjoy it. But I'm not boarding the love train just yet. Seeing problems in Voralberg and AVL that need DTG's attention.

 

Well said. We all just want the game to better.

 

One thing that annoys me is that we are constantly asked for our feedback on stuff, but when we do give our, very valid, feedback we get shot down if it’s even slightly critical. What are we as players meant to do?

 

Yeah bit grouchy with the unseasonal heat...
It's just starting to grind when people go on about something that isn't going to change at this late stage.
Even I've stopped mentioning buffet cars... oh hang on!

 

Either that, or DTG NEVER responds to the thread they created asking for feedback. And any feedback we give seems to be ignored or overlooked when previews or a route/new version of TSW comes out.

 

i dont think dtg has ever shot down people for giving feedback?
or are you talking about when some members will shoot down other members for criticizing the game

 

Can't remember they ever did. DTG is very nice on the people who criticize the game. Which they should be applauded for. I can certainly be very vocal about my passion and sometimes a bit too much, that's the negative side of being a perfectionist. But they never said anything about it.

Personaly, I try to not go into a argument with another member that often (in all these years a few times), most have their opinion (the wrong one ofcourse ) and will probably not change it anyway.

 

Have to agree, seems to be a few self appointed spokespersons who do the shooting down, no names no packdrill. Not DTG unless the dialogue breaches the forum CoC in which case they get moderated or as seemed to happen the other week over SHG and MML if they overstep the mark by a large extent, (rightly) shown the way to the door.

 

Maybe functional washrooms and buffet cars in TSW5?

 

I actually stand partially corrected in this statement. I gave feedback about the F125 bell being WAY too loud inside the cab and my feedback was actually received, discussed, and the bell volume was indeed changed to reflect how loud it actually should be. His quote from another Metrolink thread:

"Hi amtraknick1993 - my name's Matthew and I did the sound for the F125. Based on your feedback along with the feedback Matt mentioned on discord, I've now adjusted the level of the interior bell with windows and doors closed, so hopefully it's more or less where it should be now! Also, I can confirm we recorded the horn and bell inside the cab with the windows closed, but I wasn't personally on the recording trip, so without having been inside the cab to hear the volume differences in real life, there's always going to be an element of educated guesswork involved. So thanks for the feedback, it's good to be able to get this stuff as close to real life as possible!"

 

Nice to see DTG taking on board the feedback. Now if only we could get them to address the opposite problem with the Class 700… sounds in the cab are way too quiet!