Hi all. Has anyone experienced missing text, colours, graphics in TSW4 on subscribed liveries which have been imported across on a dovetail live profile from TSW3? I have seen some other posts about creator club issues but not specifically this problem. Before I unsubscribe and resubscribe to all of them I wanted to check if it’s my issue or a game issue. Looks like the base colours are there but not decals / stickers. Thanks and sorry about the pictures of a screen! Playing xbox S/X
Yes it’s a known issue. I’m on PS5 and I have this problem as well, it doesn’t matter if it’s a livery of mine I transferred from TSW3 or I subscribed from the CC, the result is always the same: a big mess. DTG are investigating this issue, we just have to wait for a patch. This was the same when TSW3 was released and I’m afraid it’s gonna be for future titles…
Hello there, the issues on Creators Club should now be resolved. Please let us know if you encounter anything else. All the best, Jan
Hi dtg_jan . Thanks for replying. Unfortunately the issue isn’t resolved. I have tried logging out of Xbox live, DTL, system off etc. interestingly I tried to unsubscribe from a livery via the web but the livery still appeared in my choices in game even after logging out and back in. Maybe related or could be a separate issue all together.
Hi. The issue still isn’t resolved on Xbox One. I’ve made hundreds of detailed liveries in TSW 2 and 3, and as of the time I’m posting this, the issue is not resolved. Custom liveries do not spawn on AI neither like the game would suggest. All I see when I open my previous liveries in the editor is the base color of the vehicle. Please fix this!!
I'm sure I read somewhere that livery creators needed to re-upload their creations using the new Livery Editor within TSW4. It might, therefore, be worth taking one of your existing liveries, doing a very minor edit on it in TSW4 and then re-uploading the "new" version to see what happens. By the way I make scenarios (I'm on PC) and nearly all of mine are now unplayable in TSW4 due to this issue. If you do try the above then please post a link to the updated livery you have created and I'll try it out in a scenario as a test. David
Oh, I’d love to try that minor edit trick, but the game has an error and quits the moment I try to edit anything. Unf oh believe me, I’d love to try this minor edit method, but every time I attempt this, the game has an error and quits. Then I have to restart the game and look at the loading screen for half a millennia. Did anyone even test this game?
Hi mate yes I am facing the same issue and this is a massive problem a deal breaker for me. Where do I start well if you look over some of my past comments on various threads you’ll see I have my hands full and why no one has answered my question on TSW4 liveries and the effects on older files or DLCs. I asked Ambassador but noting and a week later still waiting. I knew this would be a problem and why I worried so much,,,I’ll explain why and see if this is the problem. I know your said your on X box so not sure about how that works as I’m on PS5 but I’d assume all the games work the same it’s just depends where and who you buy it from which can have effects on DLCs etc as we have seen. Now is says that TSW4 compatible titles the back catalogue do not take the new game core features into effect. Okay I get that,,,but is this going to make the whole system manageable from DTG side?. So to try and assess situation from my side and answer your question or give some explanation of what I think is or could be the problem after many months testing the system myself from CC with liveries. May I just add like many other users I have a lot of work which currently stands at 201 liveries on my files with 116 active on CC so a lot to consider. Now again to try focus on the topic at hand I’ll for once get straight to the point. I was hoping like many that TSW4 would give users the opportunity to fix work and take advantage of the new features in the editor now while your mentioned liveries I found that on one or two occasions decals haven’t shown up but only missing on one side. Why because on this new edition of editor the projection tool setting if placing in the left to right the decal may not project all the way as the tool bar slips by 10 percent. The new way you confirm a decal if you back page instead of confirming it will rest them so if your working on fine work but not checked the other side then it will appear messed up. I was aware of this early on playing with this new TSW4 editor. Especially if your grouping. But is this the main issue and what I was worried about and like I said reached out to ambassadors but noting plus I’ve just recently contacted DTG asking the same as I’ll put here. Now as it stands I have noting on my new console regarding TSW4 PS5 I understand why I get all this,,,save data etc but do if I have the PS4 version thankfully as I’ve just completed the whole title TSW2,3 and 4. So wow what a kick in the jewels to find I’d have to start all over on PS5 version. I’m also having issues on PS5 getting that title to port over any previous profiles as to which I have then tried to gain access to one or two of my liveries. What do I get?. Well on downloading a cope of TSLP1 37 073 “Tornado” I get noting but a yellow body. That livery was made originally on TSW2. What do I get if I down download a copy of a livery newly uploaded from TSW4 say both “Victor Wild” and 60163 “Tornado” I get them complete and in the game it’s self like on timetable mode. Not good,,,adding to my suspicion that things are not right and why I feel people avoid answering this question. Does TSW4 actually recognise or work with older TSW2 work,,,especially if you update to a new console or even setting on mods in PCs I don’t know. I know that I’m okay on TSW4 on PS4 as profile ported over fine. But PS5 I have noting on TSW4 version and now I can’t even get access to any work to even take advantage of the adding to them to upload again over old files as this users was not able to do in past titles. I wanted to know if anything I was able to do on TSW4 would that effect any work on older work on TSW2 or TSW3 and would they work in this new TSW4 game and in editing as this is a new version of editor. Why,,,well again the wording in the older versions. The older product titles say with new releases date of 26.09.2023. TSW Compatible content released for previous Train Sim World - features may remain unchanged from original releases and may not make use of all newer core features. Does that mean now that TSW4 has a new version of editing It will effect how liveries appear like they do for you now?. So we are having the same issues when it comes down to it. Not having complete liveries,,,,,I personally understand how frustrating this must be for you. I don’t know about you but personally I give up right now with TSW4,,,not the game it’s self as on PS5 it’s is truly breathtaking I can see what is going on. It’s like they want to ruin editing as then they can release livery bundles they are not gonna want any other content from users now we have a 1000 decal limit and do a livery which could distract from livery bundle sales. Why pay for a livery of say a SD70ACe Heritage bundle when users have made them so can download them for free. I know it’s definitely stop me. With a 1000 decals users could make some awesome stuff but can they?. Take TSW2 and TSW3 making a standard class 66 in BR blue,,,Take about 15 20 mins do the whole body and the rails no numbers or letters. TSW4, I can’t even get the projection tool slider to set against the body work,,,it’s bloody pointless,,and I’d l know what I’m doing it’s the new edition of editing. So I don’t know about you but this and everything else especially on editing and having no liveries or old existing profiles liveries etc I feel like crying. I feel yes they have to move forward but are they forgetting old users and how things work in the background regarding saves or files?. I don’t know I am not a expert I just know that I cannot and will not use TSW4 editing. It’s don’t work. To many frustrating issues to much time taken looking for fixes that has added to my existing problems anyway. It’s looking like a total waste of time as I can see now I am not the only one with problems,,,it’s too much now. I don’t know about you but making liveries was fun this ain’t fun,,,it’s torture.
Oh I whole heartedly agree. To be honest, my attention span could barely digest the actual gameplay of driving. But the livery editor can keep me occupied for ages, and has been an amazing creative outlet for me. Especially since it feels very familiar and polished like the interface of Forza Motorsports livery editor (another game I enjoy painting in immensely). While the new livery editor promises a lot of gains and new features, it’s interface feels a little clunkier than the last one. I can get over a learning curve if I have to, but I’m not even gonna touch it if these previous liveries cannot be ported over and edited in the new one. Would be a complete waste of my time. Especially with all the effort that goes into making authentic looking weathered paint schemes as opposed to the surgically clean rail cars and locomotives that dovetail provides. I can whine til I’m blue in the face, but it’ll most certainly fall into deaf ears… especially when they abandon this entirely once they drop TSW 5 in 2 months
Creaters club is a big mess I was fine without it never works anyway just get rid of it also free roam Is a joke
Wow. You’ve blown my mind, but basically it’s doesn’t work and currently there’s no way of getting older CC liveries to work in TSW4 because the original livery designer doesn’t translate with the new game as layers aren’t imported, and you cannot edit an old livery in the new game. I have no inclination to attempt to create liveries, nor the time, I do not have the skill or patients to do so, so am heavily reliant on the wider community to produce prototypical liveries for my own use, scenarios are more my thing! It’s a shame that you’re disheartened and the hours of work put in previously seem to have gone to waste as it stands. Hopefully there’s a fix coming so the 2 livery designers are compatible and all will not be lost! Fingers crossed!
It is similar with scenarios. I have several that work OK in TSW3 but have just vanished from TSW4. Also I have no real idea whether the scenarios that do work (42 in total) now reference liveries that don't display correctly. (To double check that I would have to run all the scenarios separately and try and photo every single AI train.......or travel the map, at start-up, from one end to the other). It really is a bit of a mess.
Hi Thanks for the reply. Well where do I start,,,well firstly I know what you in about with driving it takes a lot of attention,,,It really does. I’ve often found myself being rudely awoken by the AWS lol yet I could say I use the game like you,,and sounds like we have the same passion. Sounds like your into making them as you mentioned something I find so annoying with DTG liveries is there so clean. So well done for mentioning that as I always aim to add weathering it gives the liveries some depth,,,I’m with you on that one. Plus you have mentioned Forza and the use of editing,,,I’m glad you’ve mentioned this also because some times I feel DTG are behind the times when it comes to simple editing tools built into a game. It’s also slightly amusing to find DTG use this as a selling tactic but in other games like you mention and one I use in the Crew2 are not mentioned in sale but work great,,,,no limit layers no issues just fun and relaxing. The way it use to be on TSW2,3 but now it’s is like you say to clunky,,,I can’t get layers to sit right with the projection tool,,,I’m all fingers and thumbs,,,feels uncomfortable just to much back and too in the menu set this set that back page here there I’m bloody every where. No wonder your blue in the face we both are and does sound like a lot of people want to vent that frustration but fear some form of fan based hatred will appear. Hopefully speaking for all users that like me seem to have lost the lot and also to start the game to me seems so disheartening that they just don’t want to go near TSW4. (I’ve bought a PS5 to improve on my liveries graphics too,,plus new game so I’m now on level one not my level 208 on TSW4 PS4). I know I don’t,,,DTG we users have put a lot of work time and lot of tears no doubt to get the amazing work we have placed up. Just to be face with this,,,, I AM SORRY BUT I DON’T THINK ITS SANK IN YET. I Knew when I couldn’t get a straight answer,,,just looks like I’m wasting my time. Wow I’m gutted,,,,I may need a sit down after this news. Sorry mate,,,,I’m stumped now,,,. Have we really lost the lot?,,,,and does DTG care?,,,if you think the same about them as me. Damn man I really want to sort this now with DTG,,,,. Sorry for my tone mate,,,,just gutted,,,proper.
Well said and you have said it’s still a mess yet have you heard back from Jan?. Sound like we need something else Jan. You sound frustrated mate and I’ll support anyone that has to deal with this upset,,,,I’m trying to remain calm and polite in my manner but I don’t think anyone is taking this seriously at DTG think I am mad probably. Yes anyone will sound mad after spending months dealing with TSW little bugs and then this,,,what do they think people are gonna react especially if we are feeling ignored. So yes it’s a mess a big one I just wanted to have my little rant and support you.
Hi I’m trying to get around these issues see if I can trick the system as just transferred to a new PS5 ,I’ll let ya know how it goes but in the mean time could you let us know the score on what you done and what’s gone wrong?. Be good to hear back mate,,,let us know if ya can.
Thanks for this information it’s cleared my head a bit as I want to speak out but sometimes feel like the only one,,,I am very appreciative of what I knew all along being cleared up by you good self. I think you get my issue,,explained the whole situation for everyone else too all wrapped up nicely in your comment. I applaud your response and knowledge on the matters,,,I will also keep you posted if you so wish on any further details as I go,,for I am In the process of trying to form a line of communication with DTG directly with there ticket system but I feel so strongly on these matters I would like to form a better line of communicating over a ticket,,,to express my concerns and other concerns the community is facing. Well it’s not hard to see the truths,,there not hard to find and we,,well most are on the same page,,singing the same song. I bought TSW all titles for editing,,,and now this. I mean yes I can use TSW3 and I will as of today…okay I have 300 decals but it’s better than nothing. And far better than TSW4 on editing. PS5 TSW4 tho is still a shock I really am enjoying it apart from buggy sound loops,,,I mean what’s the AWS situation with the Scotsman?. It’s like I have a ghost with me messing with the AWS,EWS. I give up pressing circle to cancel the buzzer. Silly thing tho,,not like this with the issues of liveries. So hopefully I’ll get somewhere with DTG,,,as this will be the end for me if I can’t find a positive way to move forward with DTG as I do want to help them like we all do probably with ideas and suggestions etc because I love what I do,,,you love what you do but seem your hands are now tied and we would like to sort this rather than coming across like some think we do and think we are just moaning all the time. No we loved what we did it’s a passion and for some like me it’s their life it was for me after being it hard in the early days working as a key worker. Silly to say all this here but I wish DTG would see it’s a passion and one many feel has been taken away. Anyway,,,,I’ll try leave on a positive note,, let me know about your work as that’s something I like to see plus I do struggle with especially placing multiple locomotives in scenarios so you may be able to help and I maybe able to help as I make liveries so if we are waiting for a fix and a long wait at that I may as well do something to fill that time. In fact am excited I’ll place my old work up then if TSW4 is dead. See DTG work I was holding back for TSW4 and then can’t even get them,,,so unfortunately my plans down the drain and the liveries I’ll post today was meant to be improved. They can’t. And DTG may other seem stuck too with this mess of liveries I knew something was wrong. Well I’ll get off ,, get distracted and losing track so I’ll bid you farewell and hopefully we can share some work or ideas. Cheers. TSLP.
Hi,,,man that must be a total nightmare for you I just can’t believe we are all faced with problems like this. I did wonder why like on when TSW3 on pre release we got all our profiles porting over fine but didn’t get the same this time around. It raised suspicions in the back of my mind so reached out to one of DTG so called ambassadors. Why well the video content was all about the new content of TSW4 and its features. One of those features was this all new editing and the fix to the age old problem of old files not be updated when someone wanted to amend a livery say. I instantly asked does it work or have any effect on old files?,,,,”Interesting comment” he said I’ll try find out of the other ambassadors to which I never got the answer and I know why. The answer was no and no one that represents DTG as an ambassador gave me that important consumer advice. So I am sorry but why would I listen to them now?. I wouldn’t not for true consumer advice. Did we not get it earlier because on pre release if that information was known it would damage sales greatly,,,even tho again I knew something was up and like some have mentioned it could be In one of the fixes due soon,,but I am sure you will agree all the time and effort on first release with an already frustrated and quite frankly exhausted community doesn’t look good. A Mess is a understatement for a company that says it’s close to the community they have made quite a shambles of it all,,,I’d say,,,so don’t know about you but I have completely lost patience now. Once okay,,,Twice,,,mmmm,,,Three times,,,WHAT!!!,,Forth time,,,IM OUT. Shame,,,,it really is. They knew all along,,,I wished I known sooner and did ask but was let down by again so called ambassadors. I feel your pain brother so with my fingers crossed I will pray also that one day DTG see the light and fix these faults. We put a lot of time and devotion into our projects with pride. Don’t do this DTG. Cheers.
Dovetail, can we please get an update on this issue. I'd love to use my tsw2 and 3 liveries in tsw4 formation designer, but we're sitting here in month 8 after release with no solution in sight.
Same I’m really annoyed now. I can’t use over 100 liveries because they’re broken, no matter how many times I asked them, I always got the same answer that they’re working on it bla bla bla.
Update: good news. I removed all my old tsw3 era liveries again that I had downloaded in tsw 4, went to the creators club, and redownload them all again, and it FINALLY worked. They must've actually fixed it this time, at least for Xbox one
