Who would like to have a puzzle DLC? You have to find a map in a secret room or something (need to go for a walk over the road into town for example) that will give you hints. If we have talking NPCs it would be awesome. And could even have a few hidden easter eggs and secrets (not connected to collectables or the puzzle but just a bonus) along the way. I know in Europe I would love to see something exploring a town like Salzburg (a bit bit but just an example) for example. Could have some tour guides. And when a passenger asks you for directions you need to know the answer.... or something like this. Just a little mental challenge...
Sounds like you’d be better of in the Sherlock Holmes franchise. it baffles me that people ask for things like this in a train simulator. Is driving the train too boring or something?
If that Trans Siberian sim ever comes out, that apparently features a bit of role play and combat alongside the train driving. But so far as TSW is concerned, keep it pretty much as it is. There are far more (IMHO) worthy features that need to be looked at not to mention the back catalogue of bug fixes they need to be working on.
Additional reasons to explore a route could be an interesting way to go. The only thing is, most routes aren’t too detailed beyond a certain point (and for good reason). Parts of routes are already too demanding, this might add to that problem.
That its not (just) a train simulator, Train Simulator Classic is a train simulator TSW simulates (to a lesser or greater extent) multiple aspects of the ecosystem and infrastructure around railways, of which train driving is the primary aspect You may not like that, but others do, and this is (presumably) one of the reasons why DTG make two distinct train related products
I haven't played Niddertalbahn yet, but wasn't there a scenario with a ghost? So, even though I agree with the person who pointed out the world isn't built for what the OP is suggesting (at the moment), and I do prefer they concentrate on making what we already have better, there is room for imaginative scenarios. While typing this, I am thinking of Murder on the Orient Express, with clues to solve, and it would still be based around the train...
It's a cool idea - as long as it didn't create more issues with Routes, as they already appear to have as yet un-patched issues.
Shunting could work as a puzzle. Instead of being walked through the service step by step, you're just given a populated yard and a specific consist that you need to construct and move to the end point.
This could be fun, and indeed would have been a job for someone to figure out a way to get goods coming from points A, B and C all towards destination D in the most efficient manner possible in a yard (at least before the introduction of computers that would perform this task) I would have thought, though obviously it wouldn't have been a loco driver finalising the stock moves
Since you didn't mention trains or railways in your post, I'll assume you didn't find the " secret map " and you've lost your way and are posting in the wrong forum. Perhaps you should stick to the off topic forum, since your interest in trains seems to be merely tangential.
OP is getting quite a lot of criticism for a simple suggestion! This would be quite fun, would just need one motivated developer with some free time.
Sure...but maybe in another game which doesn't involve trains ? There's plenty of other games available which already offer the gameplay loop OP is describing Eg the first reply....
I like the idea of a shunt puzzle, that works. I remember at a model railway exhibition there was a puzzle where you had several tracks and had to reverse the wagons in the consist. Or get the locomotive to the other side. Hmmm some people don't like puzzles I think LOL But a 3rd party dev that has access to some Hollywood talent and will make NPCs talk etc... maybe the NOs here won't buy it (I think they will haha) you could make a great add on that really adds to the immersion. You could simply help a grandma walk across the road and suddenly you bump in to someone famous.... oh well at least some people can see the brilliance in the idea.
We could of had a switching puzzle with that one scenario with the holiday express and the blocks, but no we get handheld thru the entire scenario.....
I am up for some shunting challenges (and have done so on TVL) but things like this: this: or this: are just too unrelated to the game and would make a niche within a niche that's in a niche itself. Basically if you want puzzles then in this game it should be train related (shunting) otherwise I am sure the local retailer of your choice will have many for you to choose from. I certainly won't buy it.
1. I’m not the biggest fan of finding hard to find little items, I generally give up and the reward isn’t worth the effort most of the time if find, if I like the reward I would probably do a google search for location and skip the search on stuff like that. I do like the 4 TSW Route collectibles, posters and maps especially seem to bring more to the route/platforms and the other objects are nice and often times greatly regionally appropriate. 2. I probably/maybe would like to explore cities but I don’t think TSW is for this and the general scenery wouldn’t really be up for this. 3. passengers asking questions seems something more what should be added as a feature not dlc, maybe related more to guard mode. (With settings for deactivation and activation of such a feature) Summary - I don’t think this idea is fit for TSW Dlc, it doesn’t really fit and is very off topic and mixed to have a meaning. Maybe this thread should have been better suited to suggestions.
I actually think that it not be a half bad idea. Instead of having physical collectables (which quite frankly is boring) then why not replace them with random events whilst driving? Stuff like sounding your horn a certain amount of times when passing a specific building, taking a photo of a particular item, driving a section of track at a certain speed or even getting on and off at specific locations as a passenger. There's a whole host of things you can implement without actually interfering with driving and because they're entirely random there's quite a lot of bragging rights attached to being the first to discover one of these types of collectables....and maybe it will create a little more incentive to want to revisit locations. Or maybe to further increase interest levels, DTG could even go as far as to offer a free addon as a prize to the first person who finds a full set An idea kind of borrowed from GTA V. There's still a huge amount of undiscovered Easter eggs hidden away on it's map and it's quite a big thing when somebody finds something that nobody as ever seen, Well, DTG were asking for gameplay suggestions so there you go....a 'thinking outside the box' idea. (ps) If this idea is implemented I want some freebies
There is allready enough "garbage" in this game. Let them focus on the train SIMulation which has seriouss shortcomings.
Sure, I get it....but at the end of the day 'non-sim' aspects of TSW don't prevent you from sitting in the drivers seat and staring out of the window for 50 miles should you so desire. They're entirely optional extras. Besides, given DTG's obsession for creating a plethora of teams, I'm pretty sure there are already groups of people dedicated to simulation aspects of the game as well as the alternative stuff so any simulation shortcomings are not the fault of those extras we currently see in TSW.
Well, judging by the amount of times Matt says "I'm not sure, I'll have to speak to the [insert completely different name of team on each occasion] to get the answer" I reckon there must be hundreds of teams at Castle DTG, each containing only one person....with the exception being the tea and biscuits trolley team which contains many people
I like the idea of more shunting puzzles, the grumpies probably never went anywhere near it but The Holiday Express had a fun scenario with toy letter blocks on open wagons which needed to be moved around to spell the festive word correctly.
Except that scenario is handholding thruout the entire scenerio, so you cant even figure it out yourself, just follow the steps...
Derail Valley does it well- youre given a manifest and have to go to the yard, find the wagons off your manifest (normally in the middle of another train), get them out with limited track space available, get them hooked up to the train youre making facing the right direction etc etc. It can be quite involved and a real head scratcher at times.
The best freebies for me is buying a route that has this in it. For example a new Paris to Rennes LGV route (Yes it's rather long and large) and at Le Mans you can drive a race car around the full track (not detailed like car racing sims but obviously a few more details maybe like some fans and scenery objects etc) and maybe a few WW2 tanks (Shermans and Panzers yes fictional but hey its Normandy!) hidden quite a way from the track but if you talk to a few NPCs they can help in giving you hints etc.... Thank you for everyone providing input it is a good discussion. With trains and scenery you get to see a lot whilst driving so hopefully Train SIm World keeps getting better and better and also 3rd party developers might take some ideas. I do like DTG's approach to making it a simulation and putting this stuff lower on the list. But once goals have been met, we can add some interesting things. Would love to see that heritage narrow gauge train line added on the Dresden route which is about 5 or 6 stations north west towards Riesa... I see there are green carriages on the Tharandte Rampe...
If the DTG devs go foraging for mushrooms but fail to check which ones are safe and which ones may have adverse effects, we may see some of these ideas actually happen. Maybe if one senior decision maker gets a delirium brought on by a water infection, then this is the direction TSW will go in. More free booze at DTG team meetings? We will help a granny across the road and bump into George Clooney.
More like film a Just Stop Oil protest on social media before spending all your in game points on a virtual sandwich before taking out a mortgage to pay for the fuel to drive to work because the trains are on strike again.. Lets keep it real.
absolutely bonkers: the full Le Mans 24 hour circuit, how long do you think that is? There are, as others have said, some interesting things like shunting puzzles being mentioned but they are getting buried in the rest of it.
I’m up for interesting features and of course French content but really off topic things like race cars and their tracks, I just don’t think TSW is the right game for/appropriate probably at all, They will always be train stuff and improvement to current train related features which should take a much larger priority to stuff like that. The tanks (Sherman’s & Panzers) in France I think hits controversial areas like a 1941 German Route if you know what I mean, though personally doesn’t bother me one bit and would find it enjoyable like SOS time era’s (no harm in regular commuter passenger & goods trains in my view no matter the era) Dresden I agree with, if not drivable maybe have it more as scenery like Edinburgh trams.
I think the tank idea is not bad, it's like a museum piece. War historians are very interested in that and don't see any relevance.... It would be similar to finding an old steam engine or a passenger or freight wagon in a farmer's back lot. I think it is more positive than a Murder on the Orient Express idea which a 3rd party dev will have to do on the similar Austrian line from MSTS (not even sure which line but it would have to be fictional and contain no connection to history or real life etc)..... The race car idea would be great because Le Mans is a real thing and an attraction. There might even be other things in Normandy.... maybe Mont St Michel is too far away from the TGV station of Rennes (not measured)...but I'm just saying some attractions like Castles and historic buildings, even Churches that are tourist friendly would be interesting. Anyway I appreciate your feedback it wasn't critical or anything you put in your thoughts in a constructive manner.
LOLs ok that is a hilarious response!!! LOL SMILEY FACES HERE>>>>> Hahahahaha LOL LOL ROFL We can already drive a Jeep in the game..... and it would give some real Oomph to the route. Or....... Listen to this. If the route was done there could be sevewral versions. A standard version. Just an extra train. A deluxe version. With more stuff and a few items. A special version where it contains Le Mans and several tourist attraction and a few puzzle scenarios. Not sure if another train could be included ie is it just the one same train that goes to Rennes from Paris???? Maybe just maybe they could have a road (well a few that you have to explore to find) and one of them goes to Mont St Michel, another Le Mans, and a few more to other 'secret' places. Hints could be given at each station by actual voice talking NPCs.... in French haha (it could have english subtitles) and maybe a few pamphlets in stations in the tourist information areas..... Just ideas.... I wonder if there is a local train as well between Paris and Rennes (50-80km of it could be drivable)... I know this is filled with huge ideas. But after seeing the diversity in Nahverker Dresden I think they are worth exploring..... Imagine Le Mans.... and driving around! I know it wouldn't be a race sim spec or savvy and graphics etc..... But it would excite most inthe train sim community. I love the walkway on the branch they brought in on the Nahverkher Dresden route... You can go up to a look out. Worth it!! I know, my ideas are crazy!!! I did like Ford vs Ferrari though, Matt Damon is a bit more of an actor in that.
My response isn't anywhere near as hilarious as yours. So well done. I mean we moan when they omit a goods yard or a depot and you want a full open road circuit people can walk along and explore. Don't you understand? They barely have enough resources to make full routes never mind these sort of extras.
I agree with you. I do like it as it is, I'm just sharing some ideas. Look at Peak Forest route. The buildings in that are amazing like the stations. So detailed. I am not complaining. I'm enjoying it very much. Thanks for your kind response!
They're terrible ideas. Walking on a race track has nothing to do with driving trains. And like others have said, there are more pressing issues than race tracks and tanks.
ROFL good comment!! EPIC!!! Would be even greater if we could find a historic railway and drive it onto a train hahahaha Get off, and drive the train oursevles.
that was TSG's first route and I believe easter eggs are a part of their work... on a screenshot somewhere the PIS of the 628 said "Maikhausen Hbf" (referring to Maik Goltz) as an obvious joke while it was WIP, sooo... I don't think DTG will add much easter-eggery
For good measure why don't we add Silverstone, the Nürburgring and Daytona tracks and then we can add all the pubs/ bars in Britain, US and Germany because they are a real thing and are very attractive after a long day. If we are talking about adding things because they are real life and attractive that could lead is to some deep dark rabbit holes (perhaps more accurate to take the word rabbit out!). Also whilst we are talking about rabbit holes why don't we also add Wonderland with the magic animals and whatever and in a secret tunnel with a secret map there is Sean Bean (who I am surprised hasn't been brought up yet) and you can talk to him. Also we can go to football stadiums in the game on buses, which we can drive, and insert our own voices into the game to shout abuse at the players (this takes us to prison where we can then plot a plan to escape) or to coach them (this takes us to becoming the football manager and controlling the team. Then if we want we can find our way back to the train station and drive a train to another city where more things like the above await. That was a lot longer than planned but also just proven how barmy some ideas in this thread are. If for what ever reason the above is deemed not able to be seen publicly I am more than happy to share it privately so if it gets deleted and you're curious give me a ping. As I have said in this thread already I am up for some shunting challenges but Le-bloody-Mans is a step too far for a train sim. Anyhow have a lovely rest of your day everyone I need some time to recover and get my mind off the image of dark holes and Sean Bean!
