Do People Really Enjoy Scenarios Like Antelope's "home At The Depot"?

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  1. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. That was exactly the point I was trying to make (awkwardly) with my work time comment. :)
     
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  2. Greenroad

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    As someone who's preferred switching/shunting in most train sims I've played, I hate it in TSW. Sure, goin 10-15 mph the whole scenario can be rough at times but why on earth am I passing each switch by 100 meters when I can just clear the switch, throw it, then push the cars into the correct track. TSW switching/shunting tasks are making mountains out of molehills
     
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  3. Dinosbacsi

    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    Somewhat correct. But shunting scenarios where you actually see yourself doing something are fun. Like services where you actually are loading and unloading freight, or move cars to and from proper industry sidings. In those moves you see reason, you can feel like you have really done something beliavable and purposeful.

    I do. I like walking in games. Constantly running ruins the immersion.
     
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  4. hells.high.lord666

    hells.high.lord666 Well-Known Member

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    God no! The same type of scenario was what we got for the shunter on the original NEC and those were BORING!
     
  5. Pipe

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    I think the shunting scenarios with the 363 on RSN are great fun. I really enjoy them (when they work!). I´d never bother to drive the Boston Sprinter loop at 5mph though. Screw the medals, the scoring system is mere rubbish anyway.
     
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  6. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    NTP has a shunting scenario I've done a few times and enjoyed (as well as the one at Huddersfield in timetable).

    The SEHS Hoo Junction shunting in timetable are interesting, if you have all layers.
     
  7. Blacknred81

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    I'm wondering if Metrolinks CMF is actually restricted to 5mph for safety reasons.

    Either way, having to do the same maneuver 3 times with nothing special at that speed is mind boggling dumb.
     
  8. Double Yellow

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    I can’t really say I do, as essentially all they are is a scenario planner route creator with fancy text.
    “Go here”, “Well done, that’s your duties complete for today”.
    The only two scenarios I’ve ever enjoyed or I thought were unique were the ticket inspector on the Glossip Line, and the phantom train scenario on Niddertalbahn.
     
  9. Masterplan

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    Similar thing happens at Kassel Wartburg with a freight train. Actually the same timetable item is featured twice in journey mode. Go to a siding or wherever. You stop there.... Well you ARE stopped there by your safety systems a couple of meters before the stopping point, that is too close to the red light, so you gotta disable these and bump your train an extra couple of meters (that's another story) and the game tells you: "Wait 13 minutes." No matter when you arrive, there is a mandatory 13 minute wait! And I ask: how much mental damage has suffered the person, who thought it would be fun to have nothing to do for 13 minutes? That person actually plays video games and does nothing in them? Just all your equipment turned on (consoole, AVR, amp, TV) and nothing to do for a quarter of hour? Or is it a revenge from some sick sadist who hates TSW players?
     
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  10. Purno

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    Also some of the tank loading scenarios on Oakville. The first time had you as the driver, albeit unlikely, running around the catwalk and tank car roofs actually loading the commodity. Subsequent scenarios simply had you position the cars then “wait 15 minutes”, basically doing nothing.
     
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    I walk in plenty of games, like Cyberpunk/Skyrim etc.
     
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    I generally don’t mind shunting. In fact I quite enjoy it sometimes. However I’ve only really done it on the German routes where the 363 and G6 are a nice challenge to drive. I’ve also done a couple with the Gronk on UK routes which were ok.

    I haven’t done the scenario the thread started about and it doesn’t sound like a lot of fun, so I’ll probably skip that one. Seems too long and too slow. Not sure I’ve got a long enough attention span for that.
     
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    arek#2842 Well-Known Member

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    Hm, seems like it's not an isolated case. I don't think it is a deliberate part of those scenarios/timetable services creation, more likely, a mistake of a scenario creator.

    Has anyone tried and report it? I'm interested what was the response for such issue report.
     
  16. OldVern

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    Apart from the one scenario which is broken and means you can’t finish Journey mode, the G6 had a nice mixture of shunting and trip workings. Even the shunting never got tedious as yard speed on DB seems to be quite high, up to 40 km/h so you could pootle around quite effectively and get the job done.
     
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  17. Spikee1975

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    If that yard actually has a 5 mph limit and the scenario depicts realistic operation then I'm fine with it. Railroading can be boring!

    There's something for everyone in the game, you don't need to play what you don't like. And if you're keen on Achievements, use SteamAchievementsUnlocker :P
     
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  18. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    That’s for scheduled trains though, not shunting. Shunting moves are limited to 25km/h.
     
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    Still better than 5 MPH/8 km/h!
     
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  20. AtherianKing

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    I quite like a bit of shunting once in a while and the services being there is good for Ai scenery to do it.

    90 minutes of it though that’s a no from me, bit like the 3 hour one on Clinchfield, all I can say about that one was thank you save game for not failing.
     
  21. geloxo

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    I agree with OP. A random shunting task can be too boring when it combines too low speeds, too long tasks and the same part of the depot/yard. I would replace those so long scenarios with a combination of few shunting movements followed by any consist moving to another location of the line afterwards using the shunter or another locomotive and maybe continue with a few shunting movements there optionally.

    In case you want to spend several minutes on a yard or freight facility, which can be fun in some situations if it involves loading/unloading or refueling, then a free roam scenario, as those included in many routes, is probably a better alternative. Anyway shunting or consists preparation is not always fun but it´s still a relevant part of real life operations.

    Cheers
     
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  22. vicarious

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    No. This is basically filler content and a fine example of DTG cheaping out.
     
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  23. trlz#8165

    trlz#8165 Well-Known Member

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    I do like some switching moves in the game depend s on what i am in the mood for . I play a lot of US routes and freight / yard / industry switching is important part of everyday railroading .some say freight pays the bills ..when playing game its funny to me when switching i as engineer have to go out and line switches and my lazy conductor just sits there and does nothing all day.
     
  24. LunaKettle

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    I enjoy shunting personally. Especially if part of the task involved loading wagons via things like hoppers.

    The only things I find particularly gruelling are the those 15 minute scenarios of bringing a loco into service or returning it to the depot. Folk have already called it out in the thread but the Azuma has some particularly tedious 5mph zones that require constant throttle shifts to keep it moving bang on 5mph.

    If the restrictions, and the specific places they're lifted, are accurate to the real-life route though I can't really argue with that. No harm having the scenarios there as an option for those that want them, and for the sake of completion of a loco's working day. Doing the final loco move of the night back to the depot can be quite cozy now and then, especially just before bed :D
     
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  25. hypospray

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    I did that scenario yesterday...Dear god.. that was an awful experience. Probably the worse scenario in whole TSW
     
  26. Pipe

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    Yeah, kinda pointless in my view. But this thread inspired me to revisit the G6 scenarios on RRO. Great fun, I recommend! :)
     
  27. Purno

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    Did you try Antelope's "home at the depot" yet, because I think this one beats the Boston Sprinter loop.
     
  28. hypospray

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    Not yet, im doing the journeys all in order.. not at that point still
     

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