I am creating a scenario for ECML with customised weather. (See pic 1). I then save the weather and the scenario and return to main menu. If I immediately run the scenario in the same session the weather is correct. (See pic 2). If I exit the game and then reload, the weather is 'lost'. (See pic 3). However, if in the 2nd session I go the edit the scenario then the correct weather (pic 1 again) is still there. Is this just me or is it everyone? David.
Hi David,,,,just looking at this it seem in a way a similar problem I’ve mentioned in other post as you already know. The issues of saving immediately like when testing my liveries they don’t show after directly leaving the editing process to actually run the train on line. The decals don’t save or show but do remain when returning to editing. The Only way I find the changes take place is after I close the game down completely,,yet you do say you exit TSW4 so I assume you have taken the process of closing exiting TSW4 then restarting to find your scenario haven’t changed. Obviously this on my front is clearly an in correct way of making a save,,,,I’d be here all day closing the game down every time I want to see or test a colour change. Ie making 66 782 “INNOVATOR” I had exit the game 7 to 8 times to see the change of colours and is probably why the colours to me still seem off. Plus on that note I wish the locos had a better gloss look as it can effect how they reflect the light and pigments within the paint. Test shots. So getting back to the problems your facing also seems to be a save issue as is mine so some where along the line it must be a underlying fault within the game so needs to be looked at. You can’t be spending hours on work that gets undone and I can’t spend 2Hrs exiting the game just to colour test. I Share your frustration and as always I hope the problem is fixed like many others. I will bring it up next time I speak to customer support as I am currently in contact with them over a few issues. Cheers. Lee. (TSLP)
Oh my life,,,what can I say. Thank you so much,,,,personally you don’t know how much it means to me and no doubt David too. I am gob smacked,,,thank you so much Matt. I know I’ve moaned a lot but coming from the heart I love TSW and what has given me. I don’t want to pull it apart I want it to be the best,,,so by you seeing these issues we users sometimes face you can see how much effort we put in to try work around faults issues bugs what ever you want to call them. Again for me personally I may moan or openly criticise,,,not because I hate what you do,,,not at all,,,it’s just born out of frustration when we feel the Job of say editing becomes a nightmare and spoils a great simulation title. I feel for your team after all the hard work they put. Ie I been playing London Underground routes and my life the details is mind boggling the amount it must take your departments to gain all that information build into a game and have it released by a certain time frame no doubt is again truly amazing,,,but then may be let down by something out of your hands I don’t know I am no expert,,maybe not on this route but again I can fully appreciate what it must be like to please everyone,,if there issues warranted or not. I’am just speaking from my own experiences just trying to get accurate information for one livery never mind a whole railway line with stations and signals etc must be a nightmare for your teams but again rambling on a nasty habit I tend to have,,,sorry Matt,,,I love the game I love what you do,,,and I never in a mouth of Sundays except ever to head from let’s say the man himself. It really is an honour that you have taken the time to notice this and raise it with your teams. So again thank you so much to you and your team. And again sorry but I really can’t believe your commented. I defo need a sit down and a strong brew. Lee,,,of now with brackets (TSLP).
Hmm......On further investigating it's not just the weather not 'sticking' it seems to be any type of scenario editing other than adding or deleting services. For instance I can't get any changes to the scenario name to stick either. The system will accept the changes and let me confirm them but the 'new' name never appears (not even in the same playing session this time). Not good. David.
Hi David well this defo sound wrong and I wish I could help more on that front,,,I’m not very experienced at setting up scenarios unfortunately so again I wish I could you help more. I only work on console too so don’t have any dealings with PCs or Steam etc. Yet you obviously know what your doing so must have taken a number of steps to try rectifying Including shutting the game down completely,,,but reading your recent comments there’s seems a lot more to your issues than I originally thought, so some of the steps I mentioned that worked for me is not the answer for your problems. But in saying that,,,it looks like Matt has noticed these issue we/all are no doubt facing so looks like it’s on the cards to be looked at. And as you can see from my comments I was really surprised to see that these issues have been picked up. So fingers crossed that these will be fixed soon. Clearly they feel this is not right and is having a bigger effect on many user’s experience away from driving. Those like me and you are facing a few hurdles when it come to editing and scenarios,,so again great to see that it’s been picked up. On a side note those locos I mentioned if you are interested I’ve been working on to get better colour matching. Again if you or anybody is interested I can show you some test samples of the colours. See if you feel they are right. There not Brunswick Green as I believe there is no such thing,,,working on BR standards from 1950s and restoration records it is a Dark Green. Look at those recorded its says the Scotsman paint code is BS 244, Dark Green. Even in a restoration done by suppliers T R Williamson of Ripon confirmed this as they too worked of these standards. So yes I feel it’s a hot topic what colour or shades of green etc so again be interesting to see if the colour matches are close or if I am working to the correct colours in the first place. I’m trying to place it era 4 so late 1950s after privatisation. Any info or tips would be greatly welcomed. Anyway thanks again,,David and hope this gets fixed soon Lee.
Cancel this bit. It was down to me and using a HxD editor to tweak the scenario file that was causing the problem. As I hadn't deleted the back-up file the game was going back to this when reinstalling. Hence the lack of a name change. However this isn't the same as the weather error. That really doesn't stick. David
Right o,,,,well at least your shorted that issue then mate. Again hopefully and I’m sure Matt/ the team will look into what ever is causing the other problems as again must be an issue effect others in order for it to be picked up by Matt. For on a side note on and after pre release a lot was going looking at early commitments on here end on other sites. I noticed a lot with issues with steam and routes scenarios etc,,,the usual stuff,I’d even say I fallen fowl off early misunderstandings to be fair to DTG. So like I’ve already mentioned if it’s steam and PC then I’m lost,,but again maybe someone has an answer if they found away around similar issue like you,,on the usual places if not already. As the stuff you guys tend to do on PC etc with editing is pretty amazing stuff,,,with a vast wealth of information available by some of the guys that also do it,,,if your looking for a quick fix or solution if there is one of course. Best of luck then David. Lee.
This isn't the issue in question however as it is related to Scenario Planner, I'll post it here since DTG Matt has replied here XBX/XBS - Scenario Planner Bugged | Dovetail Games Forums The issue in the linked thread is that train formations which utilise 'Off The Rails' mode disappear, I have explained it in a bit more detail in that thread and have requested a few times for DTG to look into the issue to no response so can this be looked into whilst you are dealing with the issue David has mentioned above please Matt? As this is a bit annoying for scenarios which utilise 'Off The Rails' mode and is limiting me from making accurate scenarios for eventual release onto Creator's Club. Thanks in advance if you see this
I now have a second scenario where the customised weather isn't sticking in scenario creation. Again it is on the ECML but, this time, I think it might be something to do with me changing the weather from whatever it was I chose when I first created the scenario file because, initially, the weather did stay at the correct settings. So, once again, if I go into the scenario then it starts with the wrong weather (in this case no fog). If I exit the scenario and go into the edit screen then the correct weather is still present on the details screen. If I save and then replay the scenario I do get fog. However if I exit the game and then re-load it then the weather is wrong again. This is very frustrating. If I open the scenario file using a HxD editor then I can see what I think are all the weather settings at the end. Is it possible to edit these this way to get the weather to 'stick'. If so then is there a list of settings somewhere? (Either that or is there a weather on-off setting that I might have inadvertently changed? Thanks. David.
Two screenshots to illustrate the problem. First a screenshot from "Resume Last Played" from the Main Menu. Second a screenshot from "Play" scenario from the Scenario Editor screen. The first one has the correct weather, the second one not. Yet they are both the same scenario, screenshotted at the same moment in time, within the same gaming session with no editting in-between???
