November Roadmap Q&a Thread

Yeah, and it needs to not be on PC. Cause all it's doing is causing issues.
It's not fixing any problems for us, it's breaking mods, and I'm pretty sure it's causing the game to take longer to start up.

 

It's still required for the game to work properly and have unified code

 

Please stop replying. Question was for the Q/A. Unless you're on the QA then all you’re doing is burying our concerns.

 

Then they need to sort something out with it, cause it's actively making the PC experience worse, cause consoles aren't able to load all their DLC.

 

Hence resorting to this QA thread to beg them to look at it properly. Cheers Faux.

 

They've given similar answers in the past

 

I at least hope they remove the add-on manager on the Steam version until they've got the add-on manager in a fit state.

At the moment I just can't see how routes built in the official editor will load in the game. They'll work in PIE but the game blocks assets from any DLC other than the route currently loaded.

For example layer mods like "BCC Lighting and Foliage" and "WCL revisited" have missing assets. My BCC mod used clutter static meshes from Edinburgh Glasgow which appear correctly in TSW3 (no add-on manager), but just don't load in TSW4.

And yes, please stop replying on behalf of DTG. Some of us want the devs to reply to our question.

 

My first question would be about the "new OHLE", which is in my opinion a huge step in the wrong direction. Looks odd and out of place, so will there be correction or are there plans to go back to the old one?

--> Second question. Substitution in TSW4 is entirely broken, for example Riesa Dresden only the route based locos appear, nothing else. So another example of a good route, broke with the "new" franchais, on top a OHLE which i dont like. What are your plans to do, seems the behavior is just weird since TSW4 on all routes about this. (In TSW3 there was a healthy mix of subs, which doesnt seem to happen now).

 

Except that unfortunately not a single person from DTG has replied to anything in 207 replies and 5 pages… based on past experience, a vast majority of the stuff covered in this thread as far as concerns, bug reports, questions, etc.. will not be discussed in the live stream.

 

Does stop markers even be fixed? OK, you've abandon the old routes, and we don't ever hope to see some fixes on it, but AVL and 3CC still have issues with markers placed on the wrong length.

 

Good luck then, they seem to be a bit hesitant to reply most days. (Not that I don't agree with you, but that's what happens most of the time.)

 

If not on a QA suggestion for a Roadmap then where else?

 

Two of the highlights of TSW4 for me have been Free Roam and the public editor as the freedom the both provide are fantastic. It's fair to say though that these features have exposed some flaws in older content, such as incomplete signalling, unnecessary end of area markers or invisible walls and locos not initializing correctly. Given old content wasn't designed with these features in mind though, this is somewhat understandable.

Has development of future routes changed to take avtantage of the popularity of these features and also ensure that similar issues aren't present in new content?

 

Definitely. TSW now takes nearly as long as TSC to initially load into the menus, previously it was around 20 seconds. Route loading also seems longer, too.

 

Bug fixes - where are we standing? HST wipers, will someone at DTG finally open the files and fix them after four months have passed since it was broken? Missing passengers, broken catenary on RRO since TSW4, missing locos (CCB AC4400 weathered) and substitutions?

Everything else is secondary. Release new DLC when it's tested and good.

 

Some words about MP36 on AVL, please.

 

Don't forget the rear gangway doors being stuck open on the BML 377.
As well as the PIS being one station ahead on the class 801.

 

I asked about reverb through tunnels and under bridges on the last roadmap. It appears only on certain routes eg ECML, TVL. Matt mentioned he was going to look into it as it was never mentioned anywhere about being added. I'm not complaining as I think it's a great added feature.

 

How is progress on a feature list for upcoming releases ? One would expect that features like escalators would be included as they have been in the past. Are they forgotten ? Is it time, performance ?

 

I am (not) happy to report that even the TSW 4 route, Vorarlberg, is also affected of the wrong passenger door side bug. Seriously, this isn't even funny anymore. Did the game ship with the first code that was written when it was implemented?! Did you accidentally swap the master branch with the development branch on Git?! I thought you had an extensive beta test!! What the heck?! Seriously?!

 

Not to mention the HRR BR 422 automatically subbing into RRO, breaking the destination boards. Been waiting on a fix for about 3 years now!

 

Transferring all the routes and stock is a pain too. Leave the game as it is and please do annual additional versions to install instead of a new game every year.

 

Hi their, will the Same Unit Numbers on the Class 801 be fixed as it is always showing every 801 as '801234' Which is very annoying when we want a good photo with a pair of 801's and takes that little bit of realism away for me.

 

I suggest you do some research before complaining like this. The switch is prototypical, it was mentioned in several posts in the forum.

 

How can I save the minimal hud type Because you took it you quite annoying. I have to keep changing Every time long on

 

Maybe you should do your own research, because this isn't about the Talent 1, this is about literally every train I tested on every route after switching cabs using the path chaining feature.

 

That's not what they meant so come off that high horse. Several services want you to open the doors the wrong side, AI gets stuck.

 

Any news in regards to providing further documentation for basic content creation such as trains or route assets?

 

When will you be fixing, for us on PS5 at least, the HUD reverting to the old HUD every time we start the game up?

 

DTG could you make the effort to add at least one new freight wagon in the next (short) German route?

 

I'm beginning to think more that this is just a pipe dream... something that sounded good at the time to Matt, since he's the one that said "we've definitely got plans for that!" I don't think we'll be seeing one. I would love to see an entire "classic" Metrolink trainset with Bombardiers and the MP36, painted in the previous paint scheme. Especially considering that Metrolink has almost no trainsets that are just solid Rotem coaches, as DTG has portrayed in TSW4. I think there's 46 trainsets at any given time roaming the entire system the last time I checked and of those 46, less than 5 of them have only Rotem cars. Not to mention there's 14 MP36s in active service. And 5 F59PHs as well but seeing the F59PHs is beyond just a fantasy.

I think it's going to boil down to a community repaint of the Caltrain equipment at this point. Use the Caltrain MP36 and repaint it into Metrolink colors, along with the Bombardier (Baby Bullet) coaches and cabcar. I'm honestly surprised no one has made a Metrolink MP36 repaint yet (or coaches/cabcar as well) but maybe it's because the formation editor hasn't been released yet which will make it significantly easier to create a consist with an MP36, Bombardier cars, and Rotem cars.

Most common 4 car trainsets on Metrolink:

Locomotive (F125, MP36, F59PH) - Rotem coach - Rotem coach - Bombardier coach - Rotem cabcar
Locomotive (F125, MP36, F59PH) - Rotem coach - Bombardier coach - Bombardier coach - Rotem cabcar
Locomotive (F125, MP36, F59PH) - Rotem coach - Bombardier coach - Rotem coach - Rotem cabcar

Keep in mind Metrolink also runs 5 and 6 car trainsets, mostly on the other 6 lines they operate, although rarely do 5 car trainsets go to Lancaster and 6 car trainsets are NOT permitted to Lancaster without a second locomotive, which never happens unless it's a special circumstance.

 

Hi Alex will there ever be MerseyRail Introduced to the game I would love to see this

 

That falls down to licensing. Also they won't answer questions related to if x dlc is coming to tsw

 

Will the Scotsman AWS Xbox controller button fix extend to MML Class 43?

 

I would like to hear about the external camera access issue on ps5. After reading the roadmap and seeing that it doesn't say anything about this bug that we players are suffering from since the release of TSW4 (this didn't happen in TSW 3) I would like to know if you have found the source of the bug and if you are working on it to fix it.
Many times I want to see some of the scenery or other rolling stock around the train and when I finally switch to the external camera after pressing the stick up to 8-10 times sometimes, it's too late to see it, it's really annoying.

 

About Bernina line:

so, I did some research. The baggage coach we are getting with the route, is actually not allowed on the Bernina line ...
Will check the other coach types tomorrow.

Rivet Games moment ...

 

Also please address on the stream why DTG have agreed to accept the Bernina Line from Rivet when it starts at a relatively minor intermediate station, rather than the terminus at St Moritz or the operational hub at Pontresina. Have the guts to tell Rivet their offering is not acceptable and it either needs to be the whole route, or don't bother.

 

The stream has been and gone!

 

Why would they? They didn't stop other developers or dlc when they stopped at what would be a random location. That's also unrealistic to ask for. If a full route was 100 miles and they only made 50, rejecting their content and forcing them to make the extra 50 miles wouldn't be realistic at all. They don't have unlimited time or budget. To tell them to completely drop a project they probably spent thousands of hours on is also unrealistic

 

In this case however, the entire route length is only 38 miles. It's never going to be done again, so we're stuck with never having the full route.

 

Were there any interesting or important answers in the stream?

 

As always, no.

 

From my perspective I got the best question I wanted answered (Z-Fighting acknowledged), so yes very productive stream to me and others.

 

So I guess the point of this thread was useless then. We asked plenty of questions and gave plenty of feedback and bug reports and yet we were ignored again. Why bother even asking us then if you already know what you’re going to talk about.

 

Livery for Class 66 - I couldn't even imagine something more original in demand... Well, maybe the livery for Class 323 or Ge 4/4.

 

From my pov. Knowing that the official editor is being worked on for cooking and landscape foliage painting is a positive and useful answer.

 

I did kinda wonder what was with this QandA thread as it didn’t seem to get used.

 

Another thing ETS2 nailed, you can even adjust the volume of the turbo whine nowadays in ETS2.

 

Will there be a timetable for class 801 AZUMA LNER trains on the Edinburgh - Glasgow route?