Steam Still Spawning At A Random Location On Foot In Sehs Services

I think this issue was supposed to have been fixed in the 13 July patch, however, I have just installed the update on Steam, and on starting 6Y08: Tolworth Sidings to Grain Aggregates Part 1 in journey mode, the bug happens again and I appear at a random station on foot. I've repeated this multiple times, with the same result each time. I've also run a file verify in Steam just to make sure I've got the latest files. Steam reported all files verified OK.

Anyone else having the same problem still?

 

https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/update-notes-june-20th.70932/#post-669995 that was fixed an long time ago

 

There were a lot of reports of it still happening after the June 20 patch. It was supposed to have been properly fixed in the July 13 patch, but it happened to me less than two hours ago, on a fully updated installation.

 

Do you know which service?nevermind. Just saw

 

Just tried the same service with the mods I use temporarily removed, and I'm still spawning at random and exotic locations. Swanscombe this time. So it's not mod-related. I checked my TS2Prototype.exe file and it's showing as last updated on 14 July, as is the LondonFaversham.pak file in the DLC, so I'm pretty sure that I'm up to date. I've played a few other services that all seem fine, for example 0Z02 (the next one along in journey mode) is working without a hitch, but it may be that a few problematic ones have slipped through the net. If no-one else is noticing the problem, it could well be something at my end that I've overlooked but I can't think what it might be. Worst comes to the worst, I'll try reinstalling. My saves are all backed up and I've got fast enough internet to make that not too painful.

 

Can confirm I have the same issue on the same service since the update (6Y08)

 

Tried an ECS 465 service 5L19 from Dartford (Slade Green Depot) to Gillingham. Spawned it at Faversham then reloaded the service and then spawned in at SPI. It seemed the AI was doing the service for you as the doors were automatically opened. Not completely fixed yet so it seems.

 

Confirmed. 5L19 still bugged on Steam DTG JD

 

Thanks for replying! 6Y08 was the problem service for me. I've tried it both with and without mods installed and it is the same either way. A workaround is to spawn at Dartford on foot just before the service is due there as it stops at a red signal on the same platform that you spawn, allowing you to hop in and take over. I'm struggling to get better than bronze though so 6Y08 score thresholds might need looking at. I'll put all this into a support ticket anyhow.

 

JD already said this is a core issue, not an issue with particular services. FWIW, I had this problem after the patch with 5L02 as well.

Basically all freight/every Class 66 service on SEHS is very broken in terms of medal requirements, RHTT included. You'll be lucky to get Silver.

Unachievable medal requirements have been an issue since there were medal requirements to achieve. Very few scenarios have had their scoring manually adjusted, without fixing the actual underlying issue. These "fixes" usually take the form of not even changing the requirements, but just giving the player 500-1000 points for nothing at the end of a problematic scenario. I'm not aware of a single service (not scenario) that had its unachievable medal requirements fixed ever. There's a thread listing the problematic scenarios/services that were found by players. DTG Alex is even there saying that there's an internal list built from the information therein. Well, you can see for yourself how many of the services/scenarios were fixed since last November, when this list was supposedly made (barely any).

 

Can confirm error for me was without mods.

 

Can confirm same issue seems to be on part 1 . Happened to me on PC steam I have no mods or subscribed to any creators club content . On My XBOX X works ok. No issues go figured.

 

So yea on my Xbox X is good but not PC steam. Go figure

 

Similar issue with Midland Mainline, where the most recent patch on PC/Steam is in good shape, but there are real problems on PS5 despite the fact that it should have received the same patch. Not sure if this is a DTG problem, a problem at Sony's end or what. Managing updates across multiple platforms and store fronts does seem like it's complicated and fraught.

 

Even with the service 6Y71 (SEHS) in journey mode with the class 66, is generated at a random station on foot. (PC/Steam)

 

Service 6Y08 still has this problem. Tried both Journey and Timetable modes, no difference.
Tried PC (MS Store, no mods installed) and XSX, no difference.

Spawning at random locations, on foot. Cannot complete the journey

 

Confirm issue for 6Y08 on my side with current patch

 

Just for the heads up, still have this issue with 6Y08 service (Tolworth Sidings to Grain Aggregates (Part 1)) in the Journey Mode in TSW4. It spawned me on foot at Gillingham station. No mods or any other alterations made to the game. Also service 6Y71 is still affected in similar way.

 

I’m having the same issue with 6Y08 and 6Y71 on TSW4 where it spawns you to a random location on foot. Going to this service from the rail journeys section and the full timetable is broken, but the reduced timetable works ok.

This means that you can’t unlock the “It is now!” chapter in the Rail Journeys section for South Eastern High Speed

 

Hi. I recently got TSW4 for PS5, I was stuck on this service 6Y08, so looked it up for some help. I can confirm from the above thread it is still Happening - spawning on foot at random stations.

 

Can confirm the spawn on foot for class 66 services in this tread, now i'm trying to spawn on foot mode at departure station Dartfort at 20:15 to await the arrive of train and take service 6Y71 here, i've solved the 6Y08 part 1 on this way
EDIT: service 6Y71 complete on this way, once the train arrived at Dartford on foot mode, climb aboard and accept service 6Y71, after this, sitting on driver seat, need to activate brake cut in by using the panel in front of you, with arrow buttons, go to brake cut out, select it using the F buttons over the arrow buttons and activate brakes cut in. Then you have to release brakes and ready to go at Hoo junction. This procedure works also for 6Y08 part 1 service. Service 5L19 with class 465 spawned me outside the train, so i've entered the cab and accept service, but if this continued to spawn at random location with no train, the only way to solve it waiting for game update to fix it, is to use foot mode and spawn at departure station few minutes before train arrives and take service.

 

January 26th 2024 and STILL have this issue. The fact this issue is still on going is really putting my off this game. Very poor work from the devs

 

6Y08 (Part 1) and 6Y71 have this issue in both Journey and Time Table modes in TSW4.

These are both included in the Journey mode and 6Y71 is blocking me from unlocking the "It Is Now" section.

 

You can definitely complete these in TSW4, using the workaround described above by Gianluca.

 

Yes, that's the way I completed them as well. At least one of the two is also part of the Journey Mode, and that won't complete if you drive the service in Time Table mode (you get the medal, but not the tick mark for completion). In Journey Mode, the only way seems to be to let the AI driver to drive the whole service (you'll have to wait at where the game spawns you for what ever time it takes for the AI driver to do that).

 

I've taken the gold medal in Journey Mode by restarting the service until I spawned in the right train station (e.g. Dartford), then climbed into the locomotive and took over from the AI driver. IIRC, you have to be pretty quick, as the train stops at Dartford, then the service starts in approx one minute.

 

Shouldn't have to do this, Dovetail charged for all this, its been going on long enough for them to do the right thing and fix the problem.

 

I encountered the same bugs as the one described, without mod, game updated on Steam, each time being on foot at random locations but I ended up noticing that the train I should have been on to accomplish the mission was indeed present but driven by AI. Unfortunately, no reload made me appear on the train, or even nearby, but I was able, as I tried, to even manage to get on it, without being able to do anything other than being an accompanist.

But suddenly, for those who want to get out of the loop or the one and only route that the game offers them to continue their adventure is not these buggy routes and well it's just to wait. So either you wait for the AI to accomplish the mission (you can follow the route of the train once you notice it, easy it's the only one carrying goods, and quite long) which will unfortunately give a "bronze" medal
Or if you are not too far away, go directly to the end of the mission on foot, or try to get on the train if it passes towards you, or if via another train driven by Ia you manage to intercept it, which transforms this mission into a passenger journey of a driver who tries to reach his train stolen by another agent.

We can see that it is indeed a bug in the scenario/mission which has the player not placed as driver, or that the train is also with a parameter which tells it to be driven by an AI or another bug in the parameters which make the lost game drop the player at random and drive the train himself. This is even more obvious because if you click on the train in question on the map to delete it, this also cancels the mission. I even tried to place a similar train manually to try to integrate into the mission myself but it didn't work.

Afterwards on this DLC I found quite a few other graphic bugs, which supposes that there is a deep problem in the entirety of it (extreme brightness problem in the cabin under certain tunnels, bug in the display of rain during certain passages, etc.)

Here are the routes where I had to apply this method:
- 6Y08 Tolworth service roads - Grain aggregates (part 1) - 13:19 - 00:21
- 6Y71 Tonbridge west yard - Grain aggregates - 20:19 - 00:18

Having not yet done all the missions, if I find other problems with this same bug I will add them in case some are not yet referenced.

TL;DR: You can wait for the AI to drive the train that you should have driven to the various stages in order to validate the mission and move on.

 

Not Fixed at all.
Here is the workaround I found after spending "more time than I should have.
Honestly, I don't expect an answer, but why do we still have a [Full] and {reduced} option? Just wondering.
To those who want to do these routes, the image below shows how, what is and is not broken.


Each time I spawn in a new location.

 

So, I don't know if it's just me, or if it comes from the language barrier but I don't understand, if you want to tell me that we can make these two scenarios work by choosing in a specific order some things but it's not clear. You apparently took the time to create an image, but why make it complicated and illegible, with arrows of which only you seem to be convinced that the order is obvious!

I have often done workflows and the least I can do is put a number if it is not only vertical and Obvious!

Wouldn't it have been quicker, simple, clear and useful also for the dev who is not going to look for decrypted information, to directly give us a bulleted list with the order that you found to access these scenarios?

Something like this, for scenario X:
1 - Game Home
2 - Menu X
3 - Submenu
4 - Always choose version Y
5 - etc...

Which would also allow us to confirm that this is not more complex because like other scenarios which had bugs, where the problem actually came not from a menu choice but from whether one of the options Whether beginner assistance was enabled or not.

You must never forget that people in different languages or ages will look for information, not everyone will have the same way of understanding your idea if it is not simple and clear because in addition they will have to already adapt the names has their translated versions, which are sometimes very different.

 

I've just run into the 6Y71 random spawn issue in TSW5. Thanks to a few comments here though, it's actually somewhat easy to work around now.

If you start the mission in Rail Journey mode and you spawn in a random place, here's how to get back on track:

1. Open the world map (9 key) and locate Dartford (see below if you're not sure)
   
2. Zoom in and click on the teleport icon
   
3. You'll spawn right next to your train as it's coming to a stop
4. Jump in to the cab and enter the driver's seat. You may see the A.I driver spawn in, just ignore them and press E on the seat.
5. The game will warn you that you're abandoning your current mission. Ignore that and continue.
6. Setup the train: Cut-in brakes, turn on instrument lights, set headlights to nighttime, prepare reverser and start releasing the brakes.
7. If you're quick, your brakes should be releasing fully just as your next objective begins.
8. Complete the mission as normal. You'll get your medal, and the final chapter unlocks.
   

Crazy that this is still a bug.

 

Thanks @sg9345. Will try it after I DL SEHS on TSW5, hopefully next week when bandwidth returns.
On TSW4 I just repeatedly kept clicking restart journey until it eventually spawned me on foot at Dartford. More luck than anything after about 10 restarts But I got a mini free roam tour, at many sidings & others stations while waiting

 

The things we completionists do!