Brisbane Australia Route?

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by SD40Australia, Jul 18, 2023.

  1. Passenger, Electric Railcar, aka EMUs (Electric Multiple Units)
    Which has the most stops, the oldest and best stations in Brisbane?

    FYI Brisbane Queensland and Western Australia Perth both have 3'6" gauge rail.

    Western Australia has standard gauge for the mainline and in the Pilbara where 100 million tonnes of iron ore is shipped globally to China and possibly more each year among a number of companies.
     
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  2. paintbrushguy

    paintbrushguy Well-Known Member

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    Is this a suggestion?
    Please elaborate...
     
  3. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Put it in the right section
     
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  4. No, it was a question.
     
  5. MYG92

    MYG92 Well-Known Member

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    It’s off topic then it belongs there
     
  6. archer

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    I assume a mod will come along and move this to the appropriate subforum if it gets any traction, so to self-indulgently answer your question:

    Depends on whether you're talking just the suburban network, or the interurban network which runs to the Gold and Sunshine Coasts. If just the suburban network it would be either Beenleigh Line (29 stops Bowen Hills-Beenleigh, 40km from Central) or the Ipswich/Rosewood Line (32 stops Bowen Hills-Rosewood, 57km from Central).
    If you count the interurban network it is easily the Sunshine Coast Line (42 stations Gympie North-Roma Street, 172km to Central). Only one train runs to Gympie per day though.

    As for the oldest and best? South Brisbane is the oldest I can think of that still has its original architecture, albeit with modern additions. Platforms 1&2 at Oxley are quite similar- dates to 1890s; platform 3 is 14 years old and looks like every other 14 year old platform though.
    Best is subjective but the run from Park Road to Bowen Hills probably offers the best variety in a short distance.
    Most stations look the same as others of the same age, with a few exceptions like the blue and yellow curiosity/monstrosity at Indooroopilly- and then of course Toowong and Fortitude Valley both have shopping centres on top of them (Central too although it's a carpark and hotel there).

    The best part of the network though is that the rolling stock is mostly interchangeable, so although QR does have service patterns for which units do which lines, it's not locked in hard, and (aside from the recently defunct ICE) basically any train can do any route. The worst part is obviously the narrow gauge which means every train is pretty bumpy.

    If part of the network was to be added to the game I would suggest the Caboolture line because of the large variety in services, but I've seen Cleveland Line suggested a number of times too.
     
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  7. Thank you!

    From my experience narrow gauge tends to rock n roll a bit but having been on Japanese EMUs in Tokyo at same gauge they can ride very comfortably and not be rough or bumpy.

    Tell me more about the Caboolture line ( I like it how it has single line to Gympie North)... what runs on it? You mean the passenger trains to Cairns? And tilt train?
     
  8. archer

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    You're welcome! I could talk about Brisbane all day!

    Because the northern lines all run together for some distance the number of services increases as you get closer into the city, because more lines keep joining. The Redcliffe and Caboolture trains run express Bowen Hills to Northgate or Petrie respectively, while every other line is all-stations the whole way. All these services, including the Gympie North service, use the suburban fleet.
    (Network map is here)

    The Tilt Train and Spirit of the Outback can stop at Caboolture, Landsborough, Nambour, Cooroy and Gympie North, but sometimes don't. It depends on whether a stop has been requested. (Same with the Westlander at Corinda.) Then there's also plenty of freight.
    Service frequency drops off very steeply north of Caboolture, but even so, with the single tracks north of Beerburrum, there is a heap of congestion.

    I've heard the Japanese trains are very smooth. I would love to know what they're doing because Brisbane trains are really not.
     
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  9. It would be big but if we could crowdfund a route from Ipswich to Gympie North would be good. On the downside Queensland houses won't work on any other routes in Australia as you are aware.

    What is the Nambour rail bus? Takes you into Nambour from the railway station??

    You see because Japanese commuter trains are a major form of transport they are super comfortable. Air bag and ride suspension. It would take some digging to find out because wikipedia doesn't have much info.

    What EMUs would you choose to be used? Remember we can't have more than 2 or 3 EMUs/locomotives. Unless for some reason Australia is crazy about TSW Brisbane routes. Would need 3d models made of all the stations (city buildings/landmarks etc), the EMUs and locomotives etc etc.... the trees (eucalypt) are probably available for purchase.
     
  10. Hiro Protagonist

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    Nambour Station is in the middle of town. The "rail bus" is a bus-line that runs in parallel to the train line between Caboolture and Nambour (stopping at each station) to provide additional capacity/relieve congestion as most of the line outside of the city is single-track
     
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  11. Sorry I haven't checked timetables, does it get busy in peak?
     
  12. Hiro Protagonist

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    Wouldn't know, not a local
     
  13. saxon#1462

    saxon#1462 Active Member

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    we need aust
     
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  14. Crowdfund. Raise money. Build some 3d models for the chosen route.

    I think DTG have tried to get an Australian license somewhere... But no success. So it will have to be unbranded.
     
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    ill make it and put it on dtg.
     
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  16. archer

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    If someone wants to make a Brisbane route I'm happy to take reference photos, but I would be utterly rubbish at any actual dev work.

    I also wonder how successful anyone would be in getting the necessary access to the trains themselves to create them faithfully if no TOCs are willing to grant a license?
     
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  17. 3d models or route building?
     
  18. No idea.

    I'm sure there are some videos out there. And even photos of cabs.

    I'd say start small. Do 2 stations at the end of the line and lay track first.

    Crowdfund and use some seed money for advertising the project to get more railfans who have TSW in. Also non TSW can come too they will buy it.

    Crowdfund again or continue same one.

    With funds can start building the 3d models.

    Unless we have some volunteers. Know any geeks that go to uni and do 3d modelling etc?

    It doesn't have to be payware. It can be freeware.

    It just depends what you guys want.
     
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    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    It can't be sold as payware if not a 3rd party since that is against the eula. If going as a 3rd party, licenses would apply. Only freeware where they don't need the license
     
  20. saxon#1462

    saxon#1462 Active Member

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    i can make the route in pc editor and photos will be nice
     
  21. You have made track before in train sim classic?

    It will have to be 1067mm (3'6") gauge.

    Are you planning on building 3d models yourself?
     
  22. locobilly

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    No chance of Australia coming I'm afraid, maybe something Asian with Union Workshop who do Japanese and Chinese routes for TSC, but I'm sure DTG have got lots more red trains on samey looking German routes to do yet. Trainz 2022 has Australian content that is quite good, both steam and diesel.
     
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    It probably helps that Trainz' developer Auran/N3V games is Australian.
     
  24. locobilly

    locobilly Well-Known Member

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    LOL might have something to do with it!
     
  25. I still have my Wynnum North - Cleveland route! Just looking for a curve & gradient diagram from Lota to Cleveland 'If you have one' this would HELP! :) I already have Park Road to Lota covered ;)

    Edit: In TSC not TSW
     
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  26. saxon#1462

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    I have not made track in tsc I have not done anything of the type
     

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