So I've been using more and more uk stuff for a short time now and I have a question for the English or the people who know a lot about uk trains In the picture there is a class 387/2, why does the light only work on the driver's side when driving at night And on the other side on the day, but well, why actually? And well, another question tires the safety system of the train, why does vigilance trigger so irregularly? Route (Southeastern Highspeed London - Ashford & Faversham Train (Brighton Main Line)
To not blind the oncoming traffic and better illuminate signage on the driver's side. Your car's lights are the same, illuminating the side of the road much farther than driver's side.
Ah thx mate ok yes understandable but wouldn't it be better if it was on the driver's side all the time?
I don't know. I'm sure there's a logic to it. The Pacer has the driver side light on permanently though.
That is the night light. Traditionally British trains have day lights (main beam on right) and night lights (main beam on left) which are angled slightly more towards the track to prevent dazzling oncoming drivers and to light up the cess better. These days on modern stock though there aren't day or night lights per se but dimmed and full which do what they say on the tin. The vigilance only triggers after 30s 60s without moving the controls, and every time you move the controls/acknowledge AWS this timer resets. So that is why it is inconsistent. Edit: I thought the Electrostars did it every 30s, but they seem to do it the more standard 60s.
Oh yes, there´s good in TSW: The game and this forum taught me anything about british headcodes, the different light layouts and the reasons why british railstock looks like it looks. But I´ve somehow never lost the feeling that the loco is just travelling with a burnt light bulb to which nobody seems to give a damn. Yes, maybe I should change my medication.
60 seconds. After that, 6 seconds for an E Brake, then approx 30 seconds after the E brake application the GSM-R will start to activate an emergency call, if the Vigilance isn’t acknowledged.
At night, the light is on the driver's side for increased visibility. It is on the other side during the day as lineside visibility is complemented by daylight. You could say its useless during the day, but it lets people know the train will be moving. The AWS goes off when you hit an AWS ramp, either a bell or alarm depending on whether a speed restriction or non-green signal is coming up. The vigilance goes off every 30-60 seconds and needs resetting otherwise the train will go into emergency brake. They are basically safety settings in case something happens to the driver.
Yes, it is 60 on my stuff and stock I have known, but I always thought the Electrostars were 30 seconds, though I seem to have got myself mixed up there! I am sure there is one of those metro style units where it is 30secs, but clearly I don't have enough knowledge of the commuter stuff, I'll stick to intercity!
Uk train are apparently really a little more complex but I understand what you say (thank you too) and well because of the vigilance it just feels like an eternity
Yes, I have that with the AWS, only well, it's because of the vigilance, I only know it German trains (SIFA LZB PZB) that they completely take over the train, but in the UK the locomotive has to do everything that is a bit unusual earlier
Lol! Sorry if I came across a bit abrupt. Didn’t mean to. I work with Electrostars as my day job as a fitter so it is kind of my area lol. I think all stock is 60 seconds? But I’m not 100% sure. All stock I’ve worked with (Siemens, bombardier, Alstom) had vigilance of 60 seconds. The exception I’ve worked with was the 313s. They didn’t have vigilance alarm in the cab, except for the GSM-R making its alarm after 96 seconds I believe if I remember correctly? Been a while haha
No issue mate, it were me who had the wrong thing in my head! I am sure there are one of those commuter/metro classes which are 30 seconds though, but like I say I work with the intercity stuff so all the units on the SE commuter network look the same to me!
