Road Map Train Sim World Roadmap - November 2023

Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by DTG Alex, Nov 7, 2023.

  1. LWDAdnane

    LWDAdnane Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2021
    Messages:
    350
    Likes Received:
    396
    To be fair it should be an option for the stock that sits on the sidings and isn't in use. I'd much prefer they be completely off instead of unrealistically sitting on constantly, which I'm certain one way or another doesn't help game performance in general.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  2. Taihennami

    Taihennami Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2023
    Messages:
    344
    Likes Received:
    431
    Blackpool Branches is actually a great example of where shutdown and cold-start would be logical. The Pacers are stabled in various sidings and bay platforms overnight, and it doesn't make sense for them to be sitting with their engines idling and the saloon lights on for hours at a time - but they wouldn't be shut down just when turning around at a terminus.

    There's a couple of 08 shunters that also spend long hours doing nothing, and should need to be prepared before starting work. Then there are the mainline locos that come in with a train, then depart for their home region with the same train hours later, but sit in the carriage sidings with the engine running all that time. Official BR instructions, at least for one period, suggested shutting engines down if they would not be required for some defined period - which was less than an hour - and then restarted at least several minutes before departure. (Here there would be a distinction between a "cold start" on shed or after an overnight stabling, and a "warm start" after a relatively short period.)

    With electric traction, it's less obvious that shutting down makes sense from an efficiency (or framerate) standpoint. However, in practice electric locos are much easier to shut down and restart, as it's just a matter of dropping and raising the pantograph, rather than having strong enough batteries to turn the engine over and enough time to warm it up before work. So this is done whenever the loco is left unattended, even if that's just the driver going on break.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  3. Woroszyl The NS 2000

    Woroszyl The NS 2000 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2021
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    356
    The ONE livery is actually owned by Freightliner, is that a hint for the normal Freightliner green 66 to come?
    (i may be wrong with that)
     
  4. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Guest

    Probably reading too much into it :)

    isn’t DB still the owner of Arriva, I’m pretty sure Arriva license is off limits currently (like Eurostar and Virgin) from what I’ve heard.
     
  5. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2023
    Messages:
    6,484
    Likes Received:
    7,753
    Yes. Last time I knew anyway.
     
    • Helpful Helpful x 1
  6. stateoftheartjonas

    stateoftheartjonas Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2023
    Messages:
    138
    Likes Received:
    105
    Arriva's currently being sold to I Squared Capital. Contract already signed but some officials still have to agree to the deal so won't be done until 2024
     
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2023
    • Helpful Helpful x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  7. Volvo B10M

    Volvo B10M Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2022
    Messages:
    324
    Likes Received:
    46
    Is the formation designer something within the Epic editor or will it be an integral part of TSW 4?
     
  8. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2019
    Messages:
    6,552
    Likes Received:
    13,593
    It's integral, there's footage of it in the menus for TSW4 in some streams.
     
  9. Indege

    Indege Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2022
    Messages:
    747
    Likes Received:
    1,217
    That regional railways 323 better be free lol coz no way am I paying for you to add strips of colour to a train
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 2, 2023
    • Like Like x 1
  10. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2023
    Messages:
    3,082
    Likes Received:
    3,009
    it's SimTrack's first DLC for TSW what do you expect, them to start off with massive stuff immediately? lmao
     
    • Like Like x 1
  11. steamylocoman

    steamylocoman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2022
    Messages:
    557
    Likes Received:
    525
    [EDIT - Jan - Insulting]
     
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2023
  12. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2023
    Messages:
    3,082
    Likes Received:
    3,009
    woah hey there can atleast be nicer to people, no?
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 2, 2023
    • Like Like x 4
  13. steamylocoman

    steamylocoman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2022
    Messages:
    557
    Likes Received:
    525
    Maybe ;)
     
  14. MaxBenchip

    MaxBenchip Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2023
    Messages:
    648
    Likes Received:
    1,397
    Calm down everyone :) It's christmas soon !
     
    • Like Like x 3
  15. MaxBenchip

    MaxBenchip Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2023
    Messages:
    648
    Likes Received:
    1,397
    I will just say that I didn't see anything from Indege
     
  16. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2023
    Messages:
    3,082
    Likes Received:
    3,009
    bruh did you really just edit your message back?
     
    • Like Like x 2
  17. steamylocoman

    steamylocoman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2022
    Messages:
    557
    Likes Received:
    525
    Yup and got banned for a week but i'm back now lol
     
  18. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2023
    Messages:
    3,082
    Likes Received:
    3,009
    are you proud of yourself?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. steamylocoman

    steamylocoman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2022
    Messages:
    557
    Likes Received:
    525
    Well i got banned for telling someone to talk in english and not chinese with other words iykyk
     
  20. bodensee#8535

    bodensee#8535 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2023
    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    85
    i got banned 2 times because u reported me ..
     
    • Like Like x 1
  21. steamylocoman

    steamylocoman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2022
    Messages:
    557
    Likes Received:
    525
    And most of us know why
     
    • Like Like x 2
  22. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2023
    Messages:
    3,082
    Likes Received:
    3,009
    deserved honestly just saying (but you blocked me anyways so why am I wasting my time here? :D)
     
  23. bodensee#8535

    bodensee#8535 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2023
    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    85
    yea , lying and changing the words i said
     
  24. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2023
    Messages:
    3,082
    Likes Received:
    3,009
    blud you take everything too serious. like I had a normal conversation with you but you overreacted and just wanted to be right. accept the mistakes you've done and be better. also I can't believe that due to your behaviour that you're old and mature enough for the internet, honestly.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  25. MaxBenchip

    MaxBenchip Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2023
    Messages:
    648
    Likes Received:
    1,397
    Guys stop :)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  26. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2020
    Messages:
    13,106
    Likes Received:
    19,954
    Cold starte would require some fairly heavy core reprogramming, and yet more changes to the rather fragile dispatcher.
     
  27. eldomtom2

    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2022
    Messages:
    2,331
    Likes Received:
    2,502
    Cold starts are actually perfectly possible in timetables - the problem is that the AI doesn't know how to start the trains up, and will happily drive them around despite them being off.
     
  28. saxon#1462

    saxon#1462 Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2023
    Messages:
    250
    Likes Received:
    109
    Is Australia coming?
     
  29. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2023
    Messages:
    3,082
    Likes Received:
    3,009
    haha no I guess not
     
  30. saxon#1462

    saxon#1462 Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2023
    Messages:
    250
    Likes Received:
    109
  31. colinL

    colinL Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2020
    Messages:
    601
    Likes Received:
    934
    Will we ever get an update to the Editor that makes cooking possible? The editor was one of the most anticipated features of TSW4 and nobody is able to release stuff and we already have a huge amount of community content done and waiting for release lmao.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  32. all aboard railways

    all aboard railways Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2023
    Messages:
    227
    Likes Received:
    92
    time will tell what the editor will bring i can say Dovetail will not Release everything they use when building there routes as some things need to be keeped inhouse would be nice to see cooking know
     
  33. all aboard railways

    all aboard railways Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2023
    Messages:
    227
    Likes Received:
    92
    only if a 3rd party came into the fold but many have talked about this for years u can never say never as they have done NZ in Train Sim Classic so we will see u cant say no because there is never a no in the world of Video gaming if someone is dedicated to delivering something that is worth while having in TSW then Australia or any other country that is not in the world of TSW could happen down the track
     
  34. colinL

    colinL Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2020
    Messages:
    601
    Likes Received:
    934
    Nobody asks them to release any of their own assets or anything. But isn't it super ironic that the Editor was supposed to be a selling point of TSW4 but actually you can't release (therefore actually create) content with it? Like what am I supposed to do with the editor if it can't do that? Just build stuff for fun without ever being able to use it. I appreciate the other fixes coming with the update but what the hell is this, honestly. Theres no mention of the cooking feature coming anywhere. Are they afraid that the community publishes content that has better quality than theirs? Somebody enlighten me please.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  35. saxon#1462

    saxon#1462 Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2023
    Messages:
    250
    Likes Received:
    109
    Australia
     
    • Like Like x 1
  36. all aboard railways

    all aboard railways Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2023
    Messages:
    227
    Likes Received:
    92
    same happen with TSW3 the new Lighting and weather was the selling point its all just to bring in the new people $$$$ the editor is due for updates later on if u look at the roadmap anyway not going to go on about it got TSW4 Videos to post up to my new you tube channel
     
  37. all aboard railways

    all aboard railways Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2023
    Messages:
    227
    Likes Received:
    92
    yeah buddy Aussie Pride
     
    • Like Like x 1
  38. YASUKE

    YASUKE Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2021
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    54
    What do you mean by off limits ?
     
  39. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Guest

    like FGW, difficult to obtain at current time.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  40. YASUKE

    YASUKE Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2021
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    54
    But third party can do it ?
     
  41. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Guest

    not really, the license of the brand is the issue, anyone who can’t get that can’t use it.
     
  42. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2022
    Messages:
    7,604
    Likes Received:
    4,908
    Someone using the editor might where licenses don't apply if you distribute for free
     
    • Like Like x 1
  43. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2020
    Messages:
    13,106
    Likes Received:
    19,954
    "Distribute for free" is not a legal defense to infringement. It happens because corps don't bother suing individual modders with no money.
     
    • Like Like x 6

Share This Page