I am not really sure what's really meant by this which comes up at the end of the service to reduce points. I actually never got points reduced because of it so I tried to intentionally trigger it. I thought it might be activated by leaving the locomotive without applying any brakes, or just jumping onto and walking on the active mainline tracks, but I did both consecutively and still didn't get this.
Ngl this gave me flashbacks to fixing the power cabinets on TVL while doing 31 runs where I'd slam the breaks on and jump out to fix the box and hope the train stopped quickly. (Dont worry I've learnt to drive properly since then) Dont actually have tsw4 but is it maybe to do with not setting brakes and doing the shut down process? As the vehicle perhaps wouldn't be safe if you left it active? Idk interesting though
Not sure but I’m thinking neutral on the reverser and parking brake definitely comes to thoughts with this.
I think in real life they leave the US locomotives active(idling) unless they're going to be stopped for a very long time. I am not sure how is it with German electrics, but it's possible they're left running when coupled to a consist as well, to provide brake pressure.(or in some cases maybe even refrigeration for some cars) But I always understood "Left the vehicle unsafely" was related to your safety as a driver, even though you can't get hit by a train and die in TSW because it'd make the age rating of the game more complicated. So you're always safe
I've gotten left vehicle unsafely a few times and I never left locomotive. Though I had gotten out of chair while locomotive was moving so I feel like that is likely a trigger for the point reduction.
I think it's bugged. I just tried by leaping from my train at 160kmph, watching from the trackside as the train flew passed, then ctrl+0 ing back into the seat. Did it three times in a run and still didn't get any points taken off me. Hard to think how I could have been less safe. Tested on Voralberg in a 182. (PC, Epic).
On the real UK railway, it would be alighting into the 6ft or 10ft (i.e. next to another operational track) rather than the cess side. Alighting on the side of the third rail when it is safer to alight the other side. Jumping rather than climbing down the steps (though in reality you would probably end up with a sprained ankle). And these days, certainly if the driver required to examine the train or do anything that requires him to cross another operational track not protected by his own train, would need to obtain a line blockage from the signaller. However the chances of the game policing any of that seem rather remote.
I'd say leaving the vehicle unsafely would be leaving the master key in, no brakes on and the reverser in forward and leaving the cab door open so anyone can climb in. I guess it all depends on what exactly leaving the vehicle in an unsafe state means. Does it mean the actual vehicle? Does it mean how you get off the vehicle?
Never stand up whilst the train is moving, or open doors (windows except those away from you are allowed). When stabled, train should not be in a driveable state, especially when at a station.
On US trains there is the "three step dance"- full independent brake, reverser to neutral and handle removed, generator field off, which will preclude the train moving either intentionally or accidentally (on a grade, cars may be "pinned" by handbrake). Diesels generally are never shut down for short stops- it takes more fuel to start one than to idle it, not to mention the delay associated with recharging brakes.
Luckily you can use the outside free camera to uncouple and couple. Otherwise if you had to shut the cab down every time you left the cab, some of the shunting scenarios and timetables would take mind numbingly long. And now imagine if you had to apply parking brakes on each car on foot, and your character didn't run and only walked... Also as for the Vossloh G6(but not only it) you can't remove the brake key. And one of the weird things about TSW is, unoccupied locomotives(like BR185) usually have their headlights on, instead of red/tail lights. Shouldn't you just not approach locomotives with headlights on because it means that can move any time, and only red/tail light locomotives are safe?
Tail light locos aren’t “safe” either since they’re usually occupied. At least for freight locos, they aren’t stored with head and/or tail lights on, but all lights off. Also, a loco with red tail lights would usually be a scheduled train running on the mainline. A loco doing shunting moves would have three white lights on at either end.
I meant tail lights on both ends of course, doesn't that indicate that a train is currently not operational? For example in the G6 or the ICE 2, it automatically makes the lights red when you set the reverser neutral, so I assumed red was the neutral/stopped/parked position and white was the "I am moving/about to move" position.
For EMUs, yes. They’re frequently parked with red on both ends. Not locos though - they’re parked with all lights off. At least freight locos, never worked on passenger locos.
This seems a bug, never got penalty for veichle abandone unsafely in TSW4, i've complete Hugging trees scenario in Niddertalbahn, when i have to inspect the tree falled on tracks, i've leaved the train without brake on, the train start moved to tree, hit it but not derail failure, scenario successful complete with gold
Hahaha, I didn't even know it was possible to get back in this way. I've failed timetable runs before due to clipping out of a moving train after standing up to adjust a control I couldn't see (I like manipulating things directly with the mouse instead of using hotkeys). But yeah I would have assumed "left train unsafely" meant getting off a moving train. I've done this before during shunting missions... a lot of shunters you can find the sweet spot with the loco brakes / power to keep the train moving at 1km/h or less, which I'll set and then hop outside to do a manual coupling link when the train hits the cars.
