So this link mysteriously appeared in my discord this morning. Definitely NOT a reskin!!! https://www.flickr.com/photos/transrail/53494610940/ Regards Hentis
Looks like HOA aggregate wagons, seen them on the SEHS route irl many a times, I’m sure they also travel on the GWE route
Is that the aggregate terminal next to Airport Junction on GWE with the overbridge from the Heathrow branch blurred in the background?
How about some MGR hoppers? Then, God forbid, DTG might actually give us a Class 56, 58 or 60 to drag them. But no, whatever these new wagons are, we'll no doubt be using another bloody Class 66...
Vol 1 added some great gameplay, I'm up for anything that adds more variety. A Class 60 would be nice, but so would a 67, the cost of the pack will jump up if a brand new loco is included.
Add your voice to this thread then :P https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/class-60-for-midland-mainline.77786/ Hentis.
Looks likely, gives abit more life onto MML. Although I can't say I'm a fan of these freight Vol. Style addons, it is what it is. As long as the DRS and ONE 66s can layer in!
Yup you're right Bradley those are indeed HOA aggregates hopper wagons: And if I refer to the Revolutions train website those are opperated on the Midlands "HOA hoppers are used by Tarmac to distribute aggregate from quarries in the Midlands to destinations in the South East" They look cool in my opinion ! A better pack than the vol-1 for sure
QUICK! Somebody tell Rivet Games to release a reskin for the Class 66 and call it a 59. Another £9.99 rush job DLC on the Steam store would make the shareholders happy.
And they dont have to buy them then. But coming here and whinging constantly isnt going to change anything
Im loving what Skyhook are doing bringing in modern UK rolling stock. Hope we see loads more in the future.
The 66 is everywhere and the license might only be for the 66. Even if the devs reskinned one of the br blue locos into ews which no longer exist in the livery today, players would still complain. At least we know skyhook have shown interest in a class 60.
The problem is that players see the same things for years and the devs show zero to no interest to change because they know that some like you will still buy the same thing over and over. It's of course not a bad thing to enjoy new content or even reused content but others might not. And if for 4-5 years nothing change the players that want to see change are getting "angry". It's what is happening in the "Enough is Enough" thread.
Bring it on. I love these packs. Give it a year and in the sales you can get them for a few pounds. Just got ROG class 37 for about £2 in the January sales.
Couldn't agree more, see if people like this kind of dlc, great! I Couldn't be happier for them. But like our learned friend here, why do they come out of being contented with content to attack people when they ask for something or show any level of disapproval? It's clear as day to anyone when you can recognize someone being an idiot with a baseless argument; 'x is LOVE because I say so!' etc. But the argument of 'I like it, so stop complaining, all you do is complain' is just as feckless with less legs than a sea slug! People want to see a variety of high quality modern freight locos & liveries they can invest in, instead of the same unit DTG has been heavily plugging in the same EWS livery since the beginning 4 years later, me amongst them and god forbid you wish for anything new in a game you enjoy. Different HD liveries for the 66 is good but other locos exist too.
Welcome news as far as Im concerned. If the loco is to be a 66. Could Skyhook take the opportunity to fix the 66’s height? Its been an issue since GWE days. Maybe then DTG can use that change to update their own as well as Rivets catalogue.
As far as I am aware there is no loco in this pack. So it will more ylthan.likely be a 66. But hey hopefully soon we will have consist creator and we can tgen stick what we want on the front of it. But yes I get what people are saying. We need a new freight loco. And I couldn't agree more. But it comes with its own set of problems. Liscencesing we all want colas, freightliner, GBRF and other TOC or FOC in TSW but dovetail and every other 3rd party have to respect the wishes of the company who they ask. If they say no then its no and that's it. Not much you can do about it really. The other thing they have to produce would be a suitable route with rolling stock to go along with. It all takes time. I personally like the way these packs are going. As it not only adds playability to just one route but to two or three. Hentis
Well a Class 60 could conceivably go into a BR Freight Sector livery which would presumably pose minimal licensing constraints. Likewise a 56 which could run around in BR Blue if necessary.
As a standalone pack, if you offered a class 56 in BR Blue, dlc tags for NTP and TVL , 2 cab versions, 80s and modern. Im sure it would sell like hot cakes. Similar with a 60, EWS livery (modern cab) tagged for modern freight services and trainload livery (90s cab) with a TVL region tag).
Then if the TOC/FOC aren't going to play ball at all. Just make the loco in their colours without the logo. It's better than being stuck with only EWS for the rest of time.
Livery designer or mods. You can add it in ews or db red by default. In the case of this pack in particular. The HOAs are seen being pulled by EWS locos.
Livery Designer doesn't fix the problem. The skins are pixelated and blurry. You also can't edit the interiors.
I would rather see the 156 and the 222 for the MML freight does tend to get boring especially with one loco the 66
It's true that the fanboys throwing their money at this game regardless of content quality are definitely encouraging some lazy dev practices, I give credit where credit is due, such as with Blackpool and Bernina and I can't wait for the Goblin, but there is content in this game that could have been much better quality like it or not. The hilarious thing is that some of the fanboys always resort to the lame "whinging or moaning" labels for those who dare to criticize their beloved devs, usually because they have no rational argument to explain the lower quality of the product or the high price bracket it has been set at. TSW is a really good hobby of that there is no doubt and I'd hate to be without it. DTG try hard to walk the tightrope between quality and profit and sometimes they lean a little too far inside profit. There is nothing wrong with calling that out when it happens. It's healthy, jumping on critics who may have a fair point in relation to some products comes across more as the privileged few with bulging wallets who can easily afford to buy below par content, or overpriced content, and then move on to the next one buying it regardless as in their minds everything is perfect. "They don't have to buy them" is never the answer either, obviously the devs want the product to be purchased by everyone to enable their success, also people not buying a product should be a warning signal to all concerned that something is very badly wrong. I will buy everything that i feel is fairly priced and does what it says on the tin. Constantly rehashing the same UK freight loco endlessly is lazy and cutting corners. This is a simulation and every solitary cargo load being dragged across the UK by always Class 66's does not simulate rail freight in the UK today. It is right that we flag this anomaly to the devs. On the day that a new UK freight loco does finally appear then it will not only benefit the critics amongst us but ironically the fanboys too.
I do love it when the same old ‘haters’ & ‘fanboys’ alike derail every thread on the forum. Moderation is dead apparently. Onto the pack - I’m definitely open to more & more freight operations for the UK, that’s a void which needs filling. Unfortunately the other void which needs filling is freight locos & whilst I understand to some extent that it’s a bigger project - it’s something that should have been addressed after all these years. My growing collection of class 66’s is a nightmare, so hopefully this pack is wagons without one.
Except dtg has no interest making fictional or unbranded liveries. Considering island line 2022 got a lot of criticism for not using the real swr livery, I expect to see similar reactions to other dlc that would go fictional. Players expect the real thing when they are already paying a premium
Well they're not going to get it because the FOC don't want it. So it's better than only ever having EWS. If people don't like the unbranded liveries, they can just pick one of the already like 12 EWS 66s to substitute in.
And the people complaining about constructive criticism only because they don't conform to positive views. If the feedback was positive, those individuals wouldn't have a problem.
Or people complaining about stuff when they don’t have the pack because Joe down the pubs dog told them about x y z
Well if content doesn't meet a player's expectations or if they see an issue, there is nothing wrong with pointing that out. Constructive reviews exist for a reason and not owning something does not make it immune from criticism. Some negative reviews do have fair points as well as positive ones. There is also nothing wrong with liking certain content. I just find it ironic or borderline hypocritical that people will complain about those who may not like something and have a valid reason for that complaint and resort to "whinging or moaning" because they have a valid criticism that doesn’t conform to a more positive narrative. There are many products that I like that others do not. There are games and some routes in here that I played and I enjoy but may have a more negative reception by some. I wouldn't go tell them to not buy a product if they don't like or to keep their mouths shut, but recognize that a complaint more often than not is valid and not get butthurt or defend a businesses actions because their view doesn't conform to my view
I would throw £100 at DTG for a pack like that right now, and that's me being deadly serious... Especially if the model was made to the same standards as the beautiful BR193 Vectron DTG gave us last year. TVL is set in 1989 if I remember correctly, which is the same year Class 60s entered service? They were designed to haul steel trains, so putting a 60 on TVL in "RF Metals Sector" livery is a complete no-brainer... and no livery licence required.
Release date? Lmao the upcoming calendar is so empty right now. I don't ever remember there being so little on the horizon for TSW.
It happened with TSW2. There was a point when there was basically nothing on the horizon and DTG on live streams said they were taking a break from releasing new stuff so they could work on bugs, then a couple of weeks later TSW3 was announced in a blaze of glory and it went down like a led balloon lol.
I were sceptical of the first pack, but after the initial feedback ended up buying it and must say that I have actually enjoyed the runs I have done with it, and usually I cannot stand the 66 or freight, but the tankers do have a sense of great weight about them which I particularly like. So yes bring it on, if it will be up to a good standard!
