Bug/Issue List Of Trains That Don't Appear In The Menu

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  1. MJCKP

    MJCKP Well-Known Member

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    Anything anyone has found that don't appear in the formation designer menu:
    • 1938 Stock
    • HDX F7 or wagons from Holiday Express
    • Class 08, 47 from Blackpool Branches
    • Class 66 from GWE
    • PCA wagons from Class 31 DLC
    • HKA wagons
    • Front part of some steam trains

    Looking to see if there are any others
     
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  2. LawrenceNL

    LawrenceNL Well-Known Member

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    The BPO 47s don't show up for me, only the NTP and WSR ones. You can select the BPO 47 versions from the list, but then in the second menu (where you pick liveries etc) only the 2 I mentioned before show.

    Edit: the same is happening with the Northern 323 as well, that is also not available (just the TTC and CCL).

    Edit 2: for the Class 101, only the DMBS shows up, none of the other vehicles...

    Guess I'll just keep updating this...

    The GWE (Diesel Legends) Mk2a FK is missing, the Mk2a TSO and the Mk1 BG are there...

    Flying Scotsman can't use custom liveries (and there are also like 5 versions of it for some reason?) and the BPO Mk1 BG doesn't show up (the normal passenger train version, the Newspapers and Parcels versions do show).
     
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  3. deppalas

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    ICE 1 Heads are missing, I can only spawn in coaches
     
  4. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    The low gondola from Horseshoe Curve is also missing
     
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  5. ice#6850

    ice#6850 Active Member

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    The hst power car
     
  6. matthewanthonygray

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    ICI limestone hoppers, most steam locos, VEA vans from the HFP
    no liveries either on multiple vehicle 'single formations' ie flying scotsman (well any steam loco) HST power cars/coaches, any loco/vehicle combo thats a preformed formation essentially
     
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  7. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    The CSX Autorack from Sand Patch Grade is also missing.
     
  8. polaroy

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    BBA steel wagons are not available, neither the coils nor the bars.
     
  9. zzw1983

    zzw1983 Well-Known Member

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    The silver 1972 stock appears but is missing the proper end cars. The mkii 72 stock work fine.
     
  10. knightgamer#4297

    knightgamer#4297 New Member

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    Also, you can add that there are only the 700 Class front on the formation Editor. No 700 middle-cars at all.
     
  11. spikeyorks

    spikeyorks Well-Known Member

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    No sign of Mk1 BSOs, TSOs or FKs for NTP, LPC or TTL.?
    (You can access the WSR coaches but this means you can't use any community liveries as the WSR versions don't seem to be available in Livery Editor).
    This is a bit of a shame as it limits the amount of Blue/Grey passenger formations we can make :(
     
  12. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    also 463 control car for BR110, you can only select the one from Bremen Oldenburg... and since I have done a livery for the Linke Rheinstrecke version, I cant put together a consist with my own liveries aka loco, coaches and control car in MiriShuttle livery :D
     
  13. LawrenceNL

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    The LPC and PFO Mk 1s do show up for me...
     
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  14. FreddieTheShepherd

    FreddieTheShepherd Well-Known Member

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    I can select the N-Wagen Cab Car from LFR and custom liverys for it too!
     
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  15. FreddieTheShepherd

    FreddieTheShepherd Well-Known Member

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    I have the problem when I want to make a 2-car BR442 that i can´t select the front/end heads from the SKA or the KWG variant, only the middle wagons (yellow in my picture) I can select the BR442 end car without pantograph from DRA six times which is...nonsense? (marked red) The same with two pantograph-less heads from Rapid Transit (green)
     

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  16. spikeyorks

    spikeyorks Well-Known Member

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    Do they? That's interesting.......or I'm blind.
    Update.......Yes they are there. In fact I now have lots of Mk1s that I didn't have yesterday. That's good news.
    BR Blue/Grey fun here we come :D :D :D

    Update 2: Oh not quite as easy as I hoped.
    Firstly a complete colour mis-match with the community livery I have for the BSO and secondly, but more importantly, it would seem that the BG I chose has no delete option. (And I can't remember which one this was now !!!).
    Oh well. Onwards and downwards !!! ;)

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  17. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    hmm, will check it later I guess
     
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    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    under what designation? cos if I type LFR it doesnt show, and if I type 463, it shows only stuff from Bremen Oldenburg
     
  19. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    just checked, and in Livery Designer I can find my LFR Bnrdzf 463 just fine, but it doesnt show in FD... well, I guess beta things :D
     
  20. Adamgrant3

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    TGV Passenger Cars are missing after you add the Power cars
     
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  21. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Keep this list coming folks, i've made a link to the thread in a task list and we'll go through each of these and check them over.

    Matt.
     
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  22. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    besides the list I believe one of the most important things is that we get at least some visual representation and such right in the list, so we dont end up having to replace stuff a hundred times to get a result... plus an option to add already pre-made consist (from DLCs themselves) would be nice and speed things up considerably :)
     
  23. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Once formations are working properly I can look to add some more of the formations from the main DLC's but it's not practical to add them all.

    Images can't be added to this UI unfortunately, with the range of DLC the memory usage and load times required for all those images is a nightmare.

    Matt.
     
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  24. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    fair enough :) the designations would help though? cos lets say when doing ICE 3, I cant really tell which coach I am adding until I actually click on it, then see it isnt what I wanted and try again O:) anything that would turn it from a searching in the dark to effective work :)
     
  25. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Yes i've got a task to go through all the multiple unit vehicles are add their specific vehicle ID / name to them.
     
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  26. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    sending you a lot of kittens to help with energy :D
     
  27. MJCKP

    MJCKP Well-Known Member

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    Also adding to the list:
    Limestone ICI hopper wagons from Peak Forest
    PGA wagons from Tees Valley Line
     
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  28. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Ok to update on this, the gondola from Horse Shoe Curve does appear, but its mislabeled as HSC Covered Hopper.....
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  29. pedro#1852

    pedro#1852 Well-Known Member

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    class 43 hst gwr version (is being overridden by class 43 hst emt from midland main line)
     
  30. MJCKP

    MJCKP Well-Known Member

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    After the 26/02/2024 update:

    Appears:
    • 47 from Blackpool Branches
    • PCA wagon from BR Class 31 (crashes)
    • PGA wagon from Tees Valley Line (crashes)
    • Steam engines
    • Various individual units of multiple units

    Things still missing:

    • 1938 Stock
    • 'Class 08 BLU Crewe' and 'Class 08744 BLU' from Blackpool Branches
    • HDX F7 or wagons from Holiday Express
    • Class 66 from Great Western Express
    • HKA wagons from Great Western Express
    • ICI wagons from Peak Forest
    • BBA wagons from Tees Valley Line
     
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  31. spikeyorks

    spikeyorks Well-Known Member

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    I agree that this wagon now appears in Formation Designer but, at the moment, I can't do anything with it.
    Lots of system crashes in trying to create a formation and if, for some miracle, the formation survives a Save then, if I exit the game and go back in again, it has vanished from FD. (I'll try something else now).

    UPDATE - Exactly the same with the PGA wagon. Many system crashes (for me anyway). Would love to know if anyone can get a Formation to work in-game with these. Thanks.
     
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  32. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    The CSX autorack from SPG is missing.
     
  33. dseamans3192

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    It's there, it's just labeled as covered hopper.
     
  34. dseamans3192

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    HSC boxcar liveries are missing. The standard NS car is there buy not liveries available.
     
  35. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Read lower...
     
  36. jamesh#2715

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    Is anything still missing?
     
  37. trlz#8165

    trlz#8165 Well-Known Member

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    I play on console X box series X , I could not find the HSC gondola. But did find the CSX auto rack CN oakville auto rack and the UP sherman hill auto rack .
     
  38. oakleymoss#1362

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    ICI Wagons from Peak Forest
    both BBO Class 08s
     
  39. pedro#1852

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    F40PH-3C (mbta commuter version)
     
  40. LIRRGuy

    LIRRGuy Well-Known Member

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    It's there. However it's a blank name which makes it look like it's not there, when you got select it... There are two versions which is making it look like the MBTA commuter version isn't there
     
  41. pedro#1852

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    Hmm I'll test it, thanks
     

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