Creation Sharing Schnellfahrstrecke Nürnberg - Ingolstadt

I think this is done in the timetable, in the service node in formation speed limit overwrite. But i havent tried it out yet.

 

Well, this looks amazing! It's already above the standard of most payware routes from the looks like.Just a small question, will the 8km's of the S-Bahn Nürnberg( i think) next to the HS- Line be playable in service mode? This woud add a small bit of variety and shoudn't be too hard to do, except if you already created the services as AI.

 

The Sbahn will only be available as AI in the Timetable. But you can play it in the free roam mode and build scenarios.

 

Wonderful job. This route looks and feels really good!

 

usually the LZB also reads the max speed of the vehicle - like if you are on a freight M e.g., it sets max to 120... but sometimes, like those S-Bahn German trains, in PZB it has vmax 140, but on LZB it is allowed to go 160

 

You mean in game? I am aware how it works irl, the question was more directed to how the game handles it.

 

This means an expansion to Munich.

 

what?

 

any updates?

 

I'm sadly not allowed to speak about this.

 

It would be nice from DTG to confirm what projects are now "official" or not. Like Folez's projects or pilot21's projects. It's a bit weird to have pure silence for 3 months.

 

pretty much confirmation, what other reason would there be? Only things that they'll all have to do for now IF their stuff is gonna be official addons for the game is for Pilot21 if I recall correctly you used some assets from other routes? I think he has to remake some so the route doesn't have any requirements. if Folezz plans to make his Desiro HC a DLC aswell, they'd need to get in contact with RRX about the licensing as it'd be the first RRX train then lmao. overall I am really happy for the people out there that did it, and thank you for making this, thanks to DTG for picking 'em up and I hope you make it to the release! I'll definetly be saving my money for y'all, this is gonna be way better than what DTG has pumped out in german content over the past few months (no offense or anything to DTG (saying just in case), just I myself hasn't been really interested in a diesel line, a, well, fine route but a single new loco, and Semmeringbahn isn't even german at all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

 

Let's not put unnecessary pressure to the devs. They'll do their thing. Seems like the project hasn't been suspended or anything. If Pilot or Foly are able to share news, that's great. If they stay silet until then - that's perfectly fine. They don't owe us any confirmation.

 

How do you do the LIDAR?

 

https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/lidar-tutorial.74374/

 

Where can I get German treble etc.?

 

So where can I get German LIDAR data from?

 

google it

 

What google?

 

leon#2081
Just search for LiDAR and the federal state your looking for. But be aware that some states don´t provide it for free.

 

How do I take aerial photos from Google maps in the PC editor? from my route?

 

there was a german youtube channel with excellent tutorials but someone got mad and spam reported him until he got banned. ([EDIT - Jan - Argumentative]) cuz its not good for the income when everyone can build a route easily

 

1. Pretty cynical to just say this kind of stuff with no proof. Better excuse for this statement.
2. It has nothing to do with the Thread topic. So let's leave it there.

 

are you now allowed to say anything to the project? Come on. At least tell us if you are working with DTG

 

Hopefully it is the german route announced in the roadmap under the 4-6 months column

 

Hello pilot21.

I have a question. Would it be possible to get in contact? because i want to build the same route as a experiment and i cant get it working (the editor). Would be nice if you can help me with that or even can say me where i can get the lidar Data for the Route. A Answer would be apreciated. And if youre willing to make contact my kontakt information is linked below.
And btw. I aboulutly love youre project. Will be the first route with 300kph and with fixed tracks

Kind Regards Julian Angermayer

Discord: trainspotter_munich

 

I feel like this project has been abandoned

 

It is not abandoned. He said on April 24 2024, that he is not allowed to talk about updates. Which probably means, that he and his projects are now affiliated with DTG

 

Moin wie weit sind sie mit der strecke?

 

Fehlt es dir an Lesekompetenz?

 

It has just been announced that route will release as a Third-Party DLC.

 

That's great news! Unfortunately no new ICE

 

But instead yet another ICE 3, which will add up to... six of them. Including the two ICE 3Ms, of course, but after all, it's the same generation family.

On a positive side, this does show some grumpy and incompetent people that these projects will indeed make it somewhere, as this route has found its way towards a release possibility and hasn't been given up on.

 

I'm happy with this route, maybe an extension to Munich with the ICE4 or NEO will arrive soon. Thanks.

 

Great Route. Will Feucht be included?

 

Yes

 

Really happy with this new route, but why doesn't DTG make anything new nowadays? Another ICE 3 that has been re-used since TSW2? Why not make the ICE 3 Neo, or the much requested ICE 4?
Well, besides that, it looks great. Congrats pilot21!

 

This route is developed under the TSG umbrella.

Yes, an ICE 3neo would be very nice, especially for this. I am not sure if it runs between the stations in reality, but there's enough times where eras cut into each other, or a little fictional use of some rolling stock has been applied. Precisely for this route, I don't think an ICE 4 would be the best hit, as for the first 300 km/h route in TSW, having a vehicle only permitted to go at 265 km/h maximum would be missing the point. Maybe the 412 would suit better in another route, or as a "Deluxe"-branded loco-DLC for the next TSW iteration release.

 

Hopefully, we'll get new ICE 3 sounds, since this route is a great opportunity to update the ICE 3 overall!

 

Sorry, but at this point I’m just disappointed. It’s starting to feel almost like a rip-off. For years now we haven’t received any truly new, modern vehicles that aren’t just recycled from older content. The ICE 3 has been in the game since SKA and honestly I can’t stand seeing it anymore.
What started out as an almost finished project that was supposedly going to be freeware has now, after more than two years of silence, been taken over again by DTG and will most likely be sold at full price. €36 for a 25-minute route with nothing but recycled trains. Yes, of course it’s a lot of work to make these things, but as a customer that honestly isn’t my concern. What I see is that I’m paying a lot of money and getting almost nothing in return—at least nothing new.

DTG’s audacity seems to be getting worse and worse, especially towards the German community. And no, this is not directed at Pilot21 personally. I’m sure a lot of passion went into the project, nobody is denying that. And if DTG contacted me with an offer like that, I probably wouldn’t say no either.

But for the community it feels like a slap in the face when every well-progressed freeware project suddenly disappears, only to show up years later (if at all) on the roadmap and then be sold as full-price DLC instead of being released as freeware. And DTG will probably keep most of the revenue for themselves anyway.

I honestly don’t know what has happened to TSW, but after already investing hundreds of euros into this game, I won’t be spending any more money on such overpriced content for the time being.

 

1. Not a DTG product.
2. Saying we only get recycled rolling stock is just a lie.
3. 25 minutes? what kind of ICE 3 are you driving?
4. You are complaining about pricing even if nothing has been said about that.
5. As a customer you dislike the route? Have you put any thought into the idea of you not being the center of the universe?

If you dont want the route, dont buy it.
No need to ruin it for those who do like it.

 

I completely agree with this. We have so many routes that have so much potential (HRR, SKA and the Ruhr routes)... but if DTG does not make any REAL new content, I'm talking like Duisburg - Cologne with the Desiro HC and the ICE 4, I don't know what will happen to TSW. Like, I absolutely love that there's a new route coming on which we can finally drive 300km/h on, but with the old BR442 (from what I've seen on screenshots) and with a very slightly tweaked ICE 3? If you're going to invest in a big route like this, at least make a proper new train come with it (the MüNex doesn't count imo, it's just a modified bpmmz). Then and only then can you charge a full 40 euros for it.

This is my opinion, I'm very willing to discuss this with you if you do not agree but don't go hating on me.

Greetings!

 

1. The recycled content point is absolutely valid. German routes have been reusing the same stock for years. The BR 423 has been around since TSW2, the ICE 3 (BR 403) since SKA. Getting genuinely new passenger trains with a route has become rare. And when we do get new vehicles, they are often either freight locomotives nobody asked for or content from TSG. Those can be cool, but the potential for new German passenger stock is clearly not being used.
   

A good example is the Mannheim–Kaiserslautern route. Instead of setting it in the present day with trains like the FLIRT 3 or the ICE 407, DTG deliberately chose a timetable year right before the change, conveniently a year where almost every train was already in their existing portfolio and could simply be reused. These situations are happening more and more often. At best we get one actually interesting new German passenger vehicle per year.

1. The 25 minutes are not made up either. Pilot21 himself uploaded a full run of the route about two years ago which took roughly 30 minutes in an ICE 1 with a top speed of 280 km/h. The ICE 3 can reach 300 km/h on this line, so ~25 minutes for an end-to-end run is absolutely realistic.
   
   
2. As for pricing: every recent route release has been around €35.99. So it’s completely reasonable to assume this one will be priced similarly. For a short route with mostly reused rolling stock, many players understandably consider that too expensive.
   

 

Partially. The *KAH ICE 3M is a 406.

"ICE 407" isn't a thing either.

 

Your rolling stock point is absolutely not valid. If you think TSG just repainted the IC wagons, then i dont think you should complain about rolling stock any further.
Especially for those who didnt buy the 101 expert, the included cab car will be something.

Talking about the 25 minutes with an ICE 3, you do know this is literally the fastest service you can ever play on any german route? What do you expect? A 300kmh fast train taking an hour for 90 km?

Talking about your last point, in what world are 90km short?
Makes me question if you even know what km stands for...

About pricing. I would pay the 35,99 day one.

 

Vinination, your reply honestly just proves the point about how criticism in this community constantly gets dismissed instead of actually addressed.



Well, where should I start...

Calling the recycled rolling stock argument a “lie” doesn’t make it one. The German side of TSW has been relying on the same core passenger trains for years. The BR 423 has been around since TSW2, the ICE 3 since SKA, and many routes are still built around exactly those vehicles. Compared to the huge variety of modern German passenger trains that exist in reality, the amount of genuinely new stock we get is extremely limited.

Your 25-minute argument also completely misses the point. Yes, a 300 km/h train will cover distance quickly, that’s exactly why people point out that the overall gameplay experience ends up being quite short for what will most likely be another ~€36 route. Players questioning the value of that is perfectly reasonable. What’s even more frustrating is that arguments like yours always sound as if this were some kind of freeware community project that we should just be grateful for. It isn’t. This is paid DLC, expensive paid DLC, and customers absolutely have the right to question what they are getting for their money.

Slightly modifying an existing IC coach is not even remotely comparable to developing a completely new locomotive or multiple unit. Not even close. Using that as a counter-argument to the lack of new rolling stock is honestly hard to take seriously.

To make things worse, even a lot of the recycled content DTG releases is frequently bugged. The features and systems are often technically there, but they don’t properly work because of persistent bugs, meaning parts of the functionality end up being effectively unusable in practice. That’s what really puts the crown on this whole situation.

If you’re happy to pay full price day one, that’s your choice. But dismissing legitimate criticism and acting like people should just stay quiet doesn’t make those problems disappear.


After eight years of loyalty I simply will not buy anything from them anymore. When you look at how little German rolling stock is actually available after hundreds of euros and 9 years, it really has just been a complete waste of money. Honestly, I went along with this for far too long, and at the very latest after the TSW6 release the whole series should have been dropped.

 

@consti#9295

Who says that? Probably only you.
I am happy about every freight train and freight locomotive, because freight trains are much rarer than passenger trains in TSW.


On the other hand, I am not interested at all in the trains that will travel at 300 km/h on this route.
Therefore, I hope that there will be freight trains on this route.

 

Your entire nonsense talk is about DTG product quality, while this route has literally nothing to do with them. When will you start coming up with any arguments about the actual topic? I am interested to see what criticism you have against TSG. Atleast i cant think of anything for myself.